Kowen117 Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 best fall bass baits for stained water i live in Florida and its still hot here too Quote
chubaka Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Wished i lived down south. So cold up here. Quote
Chaz Hickcox Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Chubaka - You're fall for fishing is not the calendar fall. So, you should still be in the late summer pattern. Topwater in the morning, spinners and cranks once the sun comes up. I would also try swimbaits (NOT the 'swimbaits' that look like the YUM money minnow, but the real swimbaits like Castaic or something along those lines). Other people would go with soft plastics, but I am not a fan of that. Quote
Chaz Hickcox Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Chubaka - You're fall for fishing is not the calendar fall. So, you should still be in the late summer pattern. Topwater in the morning, spinners and cranks once the sun comes up. I would also try swimbaits (NOT the 'swimbaits' that look like the YUM money minnow, but the real swimbaits like Castaic or something along those lines). Other people would go with soft plastics, but I am not a fan of that. Hey my mistake I meant to direct that to SmokinShad Quote
Super User Bassin_Fin@tic Posted October 24, 2009 Super User Posted October 24, 2009 Spooks (my favorite), props when it is choppy,spinnerbaits on windy days when the fronts are coming though are killer,swimbaits and buzzbaits if you see fish busting,cranks around any underwater humps and points are good,jerkbaits along the edges of weedlines....basically this is a time of year when I lay off of the plasttics a little bit and go for moving baits to cover a lot of water.During post frontal bluebird crap conditions then you need to be deadsticking plastics and hope that you can hit a fish in the face with it or flipping the nastiest stuff you can find. Smokinshad: Put your location in your avatar so as to let us know where your from! :-? Quote
Kowen117 Posted October 25, 2009 Author Posted October 25, 2009 thanks guys i love top water fishin so that will be fun Quote
looking4structure Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 i would bust out some stick baits and such.Try weightless Flukes and what not.Slow all your retrieves down with all your baits. Quote
bwell Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Dont laugh at me but I am going to say the Banjo minnow, my Grandpa bought me some so I figured I would try them out. To my surprise they work great. Just cast them out and give then a jerk and let fall to the bottom again making to look like a dying fish. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted October 25, 2009 Super User Posted October 25, 2009 Dont laugh at me but I am going to say the Banjo minnow, my Grandpa bought me some so I figured I would try them out. To my surprise they work great. Just cast them out and give then a jerk and let fall to the bottom again making to look like a dying fish. We promise , we won't laugh. Quote
Steven Ladner Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Dont laugh at me but I am going to say the Banjo minnow, my Grandpa bought me some so I figured I would try them out. To my surprise they work great. Just cast them out and give then a jerk and let fall to the bottom again making to look like a dying fish. Here we go :... been a while since the BM was brought up Quote
bwell Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 lol sorry I wont bring it up again. Why all the hate for them? Quote
D4u2s0t Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Use the same thing you would use at other times. Experiment to see what works best, and keep using something if it works. Many people don't realize how versatile majority of baits are because they only use them at certain times because that's what they were told to do. As an example, topwater can produce all day. Crankbaits can produce all year. (though most people say use them in fall) Spinnerbaits will work on the calmest of days. (most people would say use them in some chop) Most people go fishing early in morning and at dusk because it's the "best" times. But many people catch their biggest fish in the middle of the day. The list goes on. If you really want to know what works and what doesn't, go out with your tackle box, and try things that you wouldn't normally do. I think most people would be surprised. My logic in baits that hit the water is if they catch fish, they earn their spot in the tackle box. If they don't, then I don't buy them again. But basically, certain baits don't just stop working at certain times of day, just like certain baits don't stop working at certain times of the year. People just don't use them enough, and lack the confidence because everything they read says otherwise. If this thread goes long enough, you'll have 100 responses as to what the "best" fall bait is... and the reason for that is like I always say, the bait that catches the most fish is the one that's most in the water. Quote
Chaz Hickcox Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Use the same thing you would use at other times. Experiment to see what works best, and keep using something if it works. Many people don't realize how versatile majority of baits are because they only use them at certain times because that's what they were told to do. As an example, topwater can produce all day. Crankbaits can produce all year. (though most people say use them in fall) Spinnerbaits will work on the calmest of days. (most people would say use them in some chop) Most people go fishing early in morning and at dusk because it's the "best" times. But many people catch their biggest fish in the middle of the day. The list goes on. If you really want to know what works and what doesn't, go out with your tackle box, and try things that you wouldn't normally do. I think most people would be surprised. My logic in baits that hit the water is if they catch fish, they earn their spot in the tackle box. If they don't, then I don't buy them again. But basically, certain baits don't just stop working at certain times of day, just like certain baits don't stop working at certain times of the year. People just don't use them enough, and lack the confidence because everything they read says otherwise. If this thread goes long enough, you'll have 100 responses as to what the "best" fall bait is... and the reason for that is like I always say, the bait that catches the most fish is the one that's most in the water. DUST! None of this making sense crap! The fish need to learn when to stop hitting lures and people like you mess up their training. Sticking to lures just because they work? I don't get it. The In-Fisherman website told us to change baits by ten. I thought the fish got the memo too. Quote
Chaz Hickcox Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 In reality, it's funny when people pass me when I am throwing buzzbaits to the tree shadows at 1 in the afternoon. They snicker, I get an explosion on the surface, and they tell me they're gettin skunked. Funny stuff man. Honestly I think a bass will hit just about anything, you just gotta get it close enough to 'em to get them to smack it. I had one ol' boy out here trying to tell me I couldn't use topwater at certain times because the fish were too deep. The deepest water in some of the rivers and creeks around here is ten feet. What else would you use BUT topwater. Out west if the fish are that shallow it's TOPWATER TIME! Quote
D4u2s0t Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 I love outfishing the people that "know" what i'm doing is "wrong". Especially the ones that make the faces as they boat past lol. It's best when you're fishing from shore, and they say something like "What are you using? That thing won't work __________" (Fill in the blank. usually "this time of year", "this time of day" "this type of water") Then later on it'smore like "So, what was that bait again?" Quote
Chaz Hickcox Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Yeah, when I was out west those ultra realistic swimbaits were the best things to use in the clear water. When I got out here I was asking if anyone had ever heard of or used them and I was told they 'Don't move enough water.' Of course this is in reference to the heavily stained/murky water of Va. Oddly enough the first bass I ever caught here in Va was on a Castaic Original Hard Headed threadfin shad in muddy water. Later I bought a rock hard trout from Castaic, and again had the same people telling me that the little 4 in rainbow trout wouldn't work because there are no trout in our water. They were ticked when I came in with more fish on the boat than them. Quote
guitarkid Posted October 26, 2009 Posted October 26, 2009 See that is the good thing about where I fish, It may be a pond, but the "rules" don't apply. If you want to throw it then do it. If it does'nt work that second go to something different. -gk Quote
The_Natural Posted October 26, 2009 Posted October 26, 2009 What anglers call 'rules' are merely a good foundation on where to start. In the fall, most bass move back into the creeks chasing shad...often schooling (not a rule...a fact). Fall bass are predictable and fairly easy to catch....they are visibly making themselves known a lot of the time. The active bass are caught on your average shad imitating moving baits, and the fish 'resting' in the area that aren't chasing shad at the moment can be caught in traditional holding areas in the creek on jigs or plastics. I find catching fall bass on cranks and lipless cranks to be some of the most predictable fishing of the year. My favorite fall bait is the Moonsault cb100 by Lucky Craft. Traps work great in the fall, as do crankbaits. This bait combines the two. Quote
ABLE2DISABLE1 Posted October 26, 2009 Posted October 26, 2009 ::)I was in a fishing tournament with FPJ in 06 in are winter season,and I was throwing a Devils horse/buzz bait to which condition suited for what I was doing.My partner said I wouldn't catch anything at all to cold.Needless to say we won the tournament for that event.The end of the day I rubbed it in,slow twitch en the horse,to a 15-20 count twitch.And repeatable cast with the buzz bait.A little over 20lbs for the day, with second place behind us 19.68bls.If you have confidence in what you are doing don't change a thing,unless your partner is rip pin you up,on what he is doing. Quote
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