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Improved clinch for Fluoro, Palomar for braid. I've never had knot issues. I'm also using Maxima for my Hudds now. A bit thick in diameter, but it's held up extremely well. Picked up some 60lb Sunline FX 2 Braid, Bue-Green. I'll be putting it to the test today.

Just curious what knot(s) are you using?...I use the san diego jam, and that knot Grigsby is always showing on youtube (I think someone actually had a link to it in a post earlier this week.)

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I've been an XPS fan myself since first trying it. Used just about every fc imaginable, including seaguar, which I liked, but if I can get the performance at a lower price...

That being said, I tried XPS on spinning last yr, and wasn't impressed, so I bit the bullet and bought some fc sniper for drop shotting. Extremely impressed with it so far! Casts great, spools well, handles well.

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I've been an XPS fan myself since first trying it. Used just about every fc imaginable, including seaguar, which I liked, but if I can get the performance at a lower price...

That being said, I tried XPS on spinning last yr, and wasn't impressed, so I bit the bullet and bought some fc sniper for drop shotting. Extremely impressed with it so far! Casts great, spools well, handles well.

I have 8 lb XPS on 2 spinning rigs and have hot had a single issue. I don't fill my spools all the way up, I keep it 3/4 full and it's fine. I want to try Sniper but XPS has been so good for me and it's a lot cheaper so I willstick with XPS for the time being. I am going to put 12 lb XPS on my new baitcaster next week.

I have a spinning reel with InvizX and can't wait until it's done. I don't really like it because it seems to have poor abrasion resistance and has a fair amount of stretch. XPS is more abrasion resistant and doesn't seen to have as much stretch.

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I have 8 lb XPS on 2 spinning rigs and have hot had a single issue. I don't fill my spools all the way up, I keep it 3/4 full and it's fine. I want to try Sniper but XPS has been so good for me and it's a lot cheaper so I willstick with XPS for the time being. I am going to put 12 lb XPS on my new baitcaster next week.

I have a spinning reel with InvizX and can't wait until it's done. I don't really like it because it seems to have poor abrasion resistance and has a fair amount of stretch. XPS is more abrasion resistant and doesn't seen to have as much stretch.

Yeah I was surprised the XPS didn't perform on the spinning for me last yr, as I love it on my baitcasters. Not having used spinning much before last yr, I wonder if i spooled it on wrong. It was also 10#, instead of the lighter stuff I'm using now. May have to give it another go, and see...

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Yeah I was surprised the XPS didn't perform on the spinning for me last yr, as I love it on my baitcasters. Not having used spinning much before last yr, I wonder if i spooled it on wrong. It was also 10#, instead of the lighter stuff I'm using now. May have to give it another go, and see...

Part of the issue could be that it was 10 lb. I find 8 very manageable but think 10 might be pushing it on most spinning reels.

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I'm a former XPS fan myself. For casting gear only, IMO it's a bit to stiff for spinning gear. 8lb was the absolute highest test I could get away with on spinning gear. Any higher and it would jump off the reel and I would get a few line twists here and there. I also noticed the current XPS has a manila tint to it, which I didn't like. I just bought Toray's Bawo Finesse Fluoro as well as Sunline's FC Biwaka Guide Special for spinning gear and really like them both a lot.

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Think I'm going to give Toray another try. I do like the Sniper and Shooter, but after reading these to reviews one would have to lean towards Toray.

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewshooterfc.html

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewtorayfc.html

I'm using the Toray Solaroam Superhard Upgrade Fluorocarbon...they have the newer Bawo lines out that specialize in one thing for instance: finesse.

Here's a link to the one I'm buying (I caught 2 bass over 6 lbs on it and 5 more fish with two being over 3.5lbs without retying yesterday) link: http://www.***.com/T...cpage-BTUF.html

And I'm only fishing 10 lb test...and it stands up to my try-and-flip-the-boat-hooksets; I just really love this stuff and can't imagine anyone having trouble with it.

And I agree with the above posts Seaguar has gone right down the toilet: they use to make a quality line now 1/2 their spools aren't worth the effort it takes to throw them in the nearest trash can.

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Hey flash, I noticed Toray/Blackwater had a new fluoro coming out, so contacted Blackwater on FB and through their site. I asked which line would be the better choice for bottom bouncing and flipping to cover, their Super Hard Upgrade or their new BAWO Hard premium plus Hi-grade fluorocarbon? These are both of the replies I received:.....

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your interest in our line. The best line for the application you asked for would be out BAWO Hard premium plus Hi-grade fluorocarbon.

Hey Paul, for flipping and bottom bouncing our go to line is the Super Hard Premium Plus Hi-Grade. It has all the strength you need for those methods in any Lake condition.. The Upgrade Line is also a very strong line but for what you mentioned Hi-Grade will do the job!

I'll let you know what I think of it once it arrives and I've had a chance to test it on the water.

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Think I'm going to give Toray another try. I do like the Sniper and Shooter, but after reading these to reviews one would have to lean towards Toray.

http://www.tackletou...wshooterfc.html

http://www.tackletou...iewtorayfc.html

You're coming around:)...no seriously though I can't imagine you won't be very pleased with the line. Especially if abrasion resistance, longevity (wears like iron), and sensitivity are the biggest attributes you look for in fluorocarbon. I shouldn't be giving away my secret (at least what I consider a secret) but this stuff is incredibly invisible underwater...it's just less visible than other fluoro's under the water. Just today I spanked my fishing partner again in a clean lake (and again I was in the back of the boat on the lake he lives on) the fish just don't see this line.

If you don't like it message me and I'll eat some crow.

Also I really think you should give Shaw Grigsby's fluoro knot a try linky:

The big bass in my avatar was taken on 10 lb Toray Superhard Upgrade and he was over 9 lbs.

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Blackwater's new Super hard Premium-Plus High Grade Fluorocarbon is the BOMB! Definitely changed my feelings about Toray, and much better than their Solaroam Superhard Upgrade! Love this stuff!

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