Sunline Sunline Super Fc Sniper Or Shooter?

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Wondering which one would be the better choice for flipping and pitching to cover. Thank in advance for your help.

[webertime]

By all accounts I've read Shooter is a fantastic flip/pitch line.

The relations between shooter and sniper are akin to Trilene XT (shooter) and XL (sniper).

I have 16lb Sniper for Jigs, spinnerbaits and 8lb on a spinning rod for DS and Shakyheads. I like the 16lbs a lot so far (fished it 3 days for about 15 hours so far).

[msolorio]

i looove sniper! its awesome. shooter is great too but after seein tackletours review of shooter idk. the knot strength was about cut in half when tied using a palomar if i read correctly but there are other knots that are about 100% break strength. honestly, sunline super fluorocarbon is awesome for flippin and pitchin. 15.99 for 200yrds, cant beat that. ive never had an issue. ill use sniper for flippin and pitchin also and same results, never a problem.

[.Paxamus.]

I use sniper as a leader to braid in 16 and 20- I LOVE that stuff!

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Thanks guys, appreciate the help.

[msolorio]

no problem! sunline is top notch, you cant go wrong with any of that stuff.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Thanks again guys. I was using Dragon Call and feel it's the best fluoro I've ever used, yet astronomically expensive! I tried the Sniper and Sunline's Reaction yesterday and very satisfied. Has anyone tried their FX 2 braid?

[msolorio]

never heard of dragon call. yea man sniper is legit. havent used reaction yet. dude the fx2 braid is just..... hmmm.... ridiculous!! amazing!! stuff. imo, the best braid on the market.

[G_money]

If you're going to spend the money on Shooter you're WAY better off getting Toray Superhard Upgrade it blows Shooter off the map in every aspect.

However, Sniper FC is just as good or really darn close as Shooter for a lot less...so I would say def get the Toray if you want the ultimate fluoro or go with Sniper FC if you want to save some dime and still have a great line...in the end all 3 are great lines, but price point Shooter isn't worth the premium price if that makes sense...there are better lines in that price class.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Thanks for your input Fl;sh, but been there done that. Wasn't impressed with Toray at all. To stiff with more memory than I prefer. Their Super Hard upgrade needed to be retied anytime I fished rock or heavy wood. One kink or nick= lost fish.With brief experience with Snipper it blows Toray away. Besides that if I was going to use Toray, for the money, XPS is a better bang for your buck, which made by Toray.

I do appreciate your input though.

If you're going to spend the money on Shooter you're WAY better off getting Toray Superhard Upgrade it blows Shooter off the map in every aspect.

However, Sniper FC is just as good or really darn close as Shooter for a lot less...so I would say def get the Toray if you want the ultimate fluoro or go with Sniper FC if you want to save some dime and still have a great line...in the end all 3 are great lines, but price point Shooter isn't worth the premium price if that makes sense...there are better lines in that price class.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Dragon Call is without a doubt the best Fluoro I've ever used. Unfortunately the $$$$ makes it a rich mans product.

 

On 4/2/2012 at 6:58 AM, msolorio said:

never heard of dragon call. yea man sniper is legit. havent used reaction yet. dude the fx2 braid is just..... hmmm.... ridiculous!! amazing!! stuff. imo, the best braid on the market.

[G_money]

Thanks for your input Fl;sh, but been there done that. Wasn't impressed with Toray at all. To stiff with more memory than I prefer. Their Super Hard upgrade needed to be retied anytime I fished rock or heavy wood. One kink or nick= lost fish.With brief experience with Snipper it blows Toray away. Besides that if I was going to use Toray, for the money, XPS is a better bang for your buck, which made by Toray.

I do appreciate your input though.

Never had any of these issues. In fact Toray has been the most consistent performing line I've ever fished but to each his own. The stiffness part is to be expected if you're fishing casting gear it makes no difference...now on spinning gear it's a different animal. Also the stiffness of line is 99% of the time what adds to tensile strength and hook setting power...limp soft lines are easy handling, think Seaguar Invisx, but have terrible longevity and shock strength.

Never tried that other line you mentioned...good luck and tight lines.

[John G]

Not trying to hi-jack your Thread but I am curious as to what type of cover you are pitchin in. I am pitchin in this type of cover. I use braid but would prefer a heavy copoly or flourocarbon. I may try a 25# line and see how it works.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Most definitely braid territory there. Braid cuts through vegetation, where as fluoro will just grab and wrap. 60-65lb braid is my preference.

Not trying to hi-jack your Thread but I am curious as to what type of cover you are pitchin in. I am pitchin in this type of cover. I use braid but would prefer a heavy copoly or flourocarbon. I may try a 25# line and see how it works.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

I am a former XPS and Toray SU user. I'm a heck of a lot more accurate with Snipper which is due to it's extremely low memory, (cast a country mile) less friction through the guides, and have had zero problems with hook sets, and so far no problems with tinsel strength and most of the waters I fish are rock mines. I also believe Sniper is smaller in diameter as well. Like we've both said, "to each his own."

Never had any of these issues. In fact Toray has been the most consistent performing line I've ever fished but to each his own. The stiffness part is to be expected if you're fishing casting gear it makes no difference...now on spinning gear it's a different animal. Also the stiffness of line is 99% of the time what adds to tensile strength and hook setting power...limp soft lines are easy handling, think Seaguar Invisx, but have terrible longevity and shock strength.

Never tried that other line you mentioned...good luck and tight lines.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

I guess I should have also mentioned I'm using 20lb test Sniper.

[msolorio]

yea sunline has some of the thinnest diameter to pound test lines on the market, its pretty awesome. thats what first drew me to sunline, then i actually used it and was just beyond stoked on it. to this day i have never had an issue, not one unlike when i used seaguar.... problems most the time.

[Hi Salenity]

I would try Tatsu.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

If you like Seagar products you'd be blown away by Sunline, Toray and Magabass Dragon Call.

I started out with Seagar, 4 years of failing was enough to never go back. High stretch, weak knots, low abrasion resistance.

I would try Tatsu.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

flash, are you using Super Hard Upgrade or the Super Hard Premium Plus? Which one is the newer of the two?

Thanks,

Paul

Never had any of these issues. In fact Toray has been the most consistent performing line I've ever fished but to each his own. The stiffness part is to be expected if you're fishing casting gear it makes no difference...now on spinning gear it's a different animal. Also the stiffness of line is 99% of the time what adds to tensile strength and hook setting power...limp soft lines are easy handling, think Seaguar Invisx, but have terrible longevity and shock strength.

Never tried that other line you mentioned...good luck and tight lines.

[msolorio]

yep my same experience with seaguar.

[G_money]

flash, are you using Super Hard Upgrade or the Super Hard Premium Plus? Which one is the newer of the two?

Thanks,

Paul

I'm using the Toray Solaroam Superhard Upgrade Fluorocarbon...they have the newer Bawo lines out that specialize in one thing for instance: finesse.

Here's a link to the one I'm buying (I caught 2 bass over 6 lbs on it and 5 more fish with two being over 3.5lbs without retying yesterday) link: http://www.***.com/Toray_Solaroam_Upgrade_Fluorocarbon_164yds/descpage-BTUF.html

And I'm only fishing 10 lb test...and it stands up to my try-and-flip-the-boat-hooksets; I just really love this stuff and can't imagine anyone having trouble with it.

And I agree with the above posts Seaguar has gone right down the toilet: they use to make a quality line now 1/2 their spools aren't worth the effort it takes to throw them in the nearest trash can.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Ha ha ha, I just placed an order for Toray's Bowa for my spinning gear.

I may have gave the wrong impression in my first reply, Toray is a great product but I've lost more than one Hudd 68 dragging them on the bottom, so I am a bit bais now. LOL

I like the 20lb Sniper for jigs and flipping a little better, the 16lb for big reaction lures. 16lb Shooter for crystal clear waters. I also love Sunline's new Reaction fluoro specifically made for reaction lures. It's smoke in color or as they call it" Stealth Grey."

I'm using the Toray Solaroam Superhard Upgrade Fluorocarbon...they have the newer Bawo lines out that specialize in one thing for instance: finesse.

Here's a link to the one I'm buying (I caught 2 bass over 6 lbs on it and 5 more fish with two being over 3.5lbs without retying yesterday) link: http://www.***.com/T...cpage-BTUF.html

And I'm only fishing 10 lb test...and it stands up to my try-and-flip-the-boat-hooksets; I just really love this stuff and can't imagine anyone having trouble with it.

And I agree with the above posts Seaguar has gone right down the toilet: they use to make a quality line now 1/2 their spools aren't worth the effort it takes to throw them in the nearest trash can.

[G_money]

Ha ha ha, I just placed an order for Toray's Bowa for my spinning gear.

I may have gave the wrong impression in my first reply, Toray is a great product but I've lost more than one Hudd 68 dragging them on the bottom, so I am a bit bais now. LOL

I like the 20lb Sniper for jigs and flipping a little better, the 16lb for big reaction lures. 16lb Shooter for crystal clear waters. I also love Sunline's new Reaction fluoro specifically made for reaction lures. It's smoke in color or as they call it" Stealth Grey."

Just curious what knot(s) are you using?...I use the san diego jam, and that knot Grigsby is always showing on youtube (I think someone actually had a link to it in a post earlier this week.)

[backcast88]

Just curious what knot(s) are you using?...I use the san diego jam, and that knot Grigsby is always showing on youtube (I think someone actually had a link to it in a post earlier this week.)

The only I use is the San Diego Jam unless I am using my drop shot rig which I use the palomar. I learned it several weeks ago and love it. Great strength and simple to tie.