Floro and Tubes

[hawgwalker]

Every time that I have matched spinning, floro and tubes I have ended up  with a cluster. What am I doing wrong?

[cbfishalot]

What size line are you using?  I only use 6 and 8 on my spinning gear when it comes to fishing tubes.

[mwbrown]

For me its all about taking my time, recently with the colder weather i've been throwing tubs on 1/8-1/4 jig heads. After i cast i pull about a foot or so of like off the reel and flip the bail by hand. for me this works and i don't get any tangles it also helps to slow down your fishing when its cold and your working a finesse rig. This is with 6lb bp xps flouro, i don't use any conditioner, maybe that is something you could look into, some people swear by it. What brand and lb flouro are you using?

[mwbrown]

kinda typed that fast sorry about the mistakes.

[Koop]

I usually throw a 1/4oz jig head with 10# fluoro on spinning gear.

[Paul Roberts]

I assume you are using spinning tackle?

-Stay 10# or below.

-After you load your reel, drag it behind the boat for a minute or so, and repeat occasionally as you fish.

-Keep the spool of line wet. Fluoro doesn't soak in water like mono but keeping the spool wet does help some.

-Manage your loops by feathering, making sure the initial turn goes on tight.

-Keep your eye on the spool for loose loops.

-The above can be more of an issue if you are fishing a light jig or sinker weight.

-If you are new to spinning tackle, you might want to use mono until you get used to line handling required. Fluoro is more wiry than mono, esp damp mono; It'll magnify errors.

[ALbasser]

You could try tying a swivel above your tube. I have noticed tubes can spin a lot under water when reeling in and might be the cause of some of your trouble. Or you could do like me and just use flouro as a leader and not a main line. That cut my on-boat profanity down considerably.

[KYntucky Warmouth]

You could try tying a swivel above your tube. I have noticed tubes can spin a lot under water when reeling in and might be the cause of some of your trouble. Or you could do like me and just use flouro as a leader and not a main line. That cut my on-boat profanity down considerably.

It's probably not your line choice because this is a big problem that IU have seen with tubes.  The spin on a faster retrieve, not so much when fishing them but in transit back when you reel fast so you can get another cast in

[Paul Roberts]

You could try tying a swivel above your tube. I have noticed tubes can spin a lot under water when reeling in and might be the cause of some of your trouble. Or you could do like me and just use flouro as a leader and not a main line. That cut my on-boat profanity down considerably.

It's probably not your line choice because this is a big problem that IU have seen with tubes. The spin on a faster retrieve, not so much when fishing them but in transit back when you reel fast so you can get another cast in

Ahhhh...yes. The line will enter in too, or make things worse, but I think you guys are mentioning another important part -the location of the line tie.

Where the line tie comes out of the tube matters a lot. Biggest issue for me when rigging tubes, esp when trying to rig weedless. Anything less than a 90deg eye is unstable with a tube. I gave up on internal weights except for flippin'.

You gotta play around with rigging a lot depending on the tube. It's a pain and a project. But in my mind tubes are worth it.

Luckily bass take falling tubes so well that the retrieve plays a much lesser role -still I like the opportunity to fish "the fall" several times in a cast, and hate those spinning tubes.

Some good combinations:

-90deg ball eye on any tube (in mostly cover free water)

-Shank weighted EWGs (but you don't get the head down fall).

-Luck-E-Strike G2 weedless head pushing eye out near top of tube head, and slow retrieve.

-Owner Bullet Head in Gitzit (hollow head). Bend hook eye up a bit to inc angle and push eye out top of tube head.

-Other 60deg tube heads with clearance below tie (I think mine are Matzuo or Owner) on which I whip on a mono or wire weedguard.

-Lastly, I'll clip off the bottom tentacles leaving tentacles only on the top side which helps stabilize it.

If you come up with something else, post it. I'm all ears.

[hawgwalker]

Thanks for the input. I am glad it is not just me. I am fairly new again to fluorocarbon; I tried it years (vanish) ago when it first came out and gave it up as not worth the aggravation and expense. This year tried it again as part of my effort to learn the drop shot. So far I have tried Vicious and Seagar Invizx and have pretty much stuck to 6lb. For the last 7 years or so I have been using yozuri hybrid. I like the Seagar but can not afford it for every day use and the vicious has been good if I am careful to watch for loops and manually flick the bail........ except when I fish a tube that doesn't seem to matter. I usually fish an 1/8 or1/4 oz insider head (Hookerz) not dragging like on Erie but lift and fall on slack mostly. I have gone back to the yozuri on my tube rod but a question below about floro line size and tubes peaked my curiosity.