endless Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 I just bought a new in box Remington express 870 28'' barrel pump and the last few times I shot since owning it has been jamming up. Either not spitting the shells out or shells stuck in chamber. How do I or can I fix this? The gun has been shot maybe 30 to 40 since owning if that. I got Rem Oil spray and Hoppes Oil bottle for the bore. Maybe it could be the cheap shells? Federal Ammunition 2 3/4 from Walmart? It's the box of 100 for $22. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted March 10, 2012 Super User Posted March 10, 2012 That's odd very odd for a 870. Hasit been cleaned? It almost seems like the extraction claw is broke maybe or stuck. Half **** the weapon and feel the bolt face there should be like a hook that sits like maybe 1/8th inch forward of the bolt face. It catches the rim of the shell and pulls it out of the chamber when racked. That's the only thing I can really think of Quote
endless Posted March 10, 2012 Author Posted March 10, 2012 I just did and it had gotten stuck a few times when pumping the gun. do I just spray it with oil to keep from getting stuck? Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted March 10, 2012 Super User Posted March 10, 2012 U could try but u said it's sticking in the chamber. Do the shells look normal once extracted or are they deformed or broken. Quote
endless Posted March 10, 2012 Author Posted March 10, 2012 That I'm not sure but they are cheap shells. Might have to look at them later. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted March 11, 2012 Super User Posted March 11, 2012 Iv used the same ones an the 870 is one of the most reliable shotguns out there I doubt it's the cheap ammo Quote
endless Posted March 11, 2012 Author Posted March 11, 2012 I might just get my uncle to check it out to see why it's jamming up. I love the gun but unsure of this jamming. Thank Clayton. Quote
Rangerphil Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Depending on where you bought it I would take it back! If not at least get a hold of Remington and see if they can resolve the issue for you. No gun especially that gun should jam even with cheap ammo. You should be able to shoot a thousand rounds out of that gun before you would have to clean to prevent problems, not that you would but you know what I mean. Quote
VolFan Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 You're probably nancy short-stroking it. Take it to the range, load, and then complete only the rearward stroke of the slide, bringing it all the way to the rear with some force. Does the shell eject? If not, then you have a problem with the extractor most likely. I've shot and seen shot several hundreds of thousands of rounds through 870s, and never seen a malfunction like that that wasn't operator error, unless the extractor broke, which shouldn't be on a new gun. Have you been poking around in the ejection port? What happens alot of times is guys/gals want to empty the gun fast or get a quick follow-up, and don't stroke it all the way to the rear, and then you get a stove pipe, or a shell that doesn't clear the chamber at all. On a funnier note, when you put the end cap back on if you clean it, make sure not to cross thread it. I have seen guns literally fall apart after a shot because people didn't have the end cap on. It's pretty hilarious, BOOM, rack, end cap flies off, barrel follows, person standing there with the forearm in one hand, stock in the other, barrel hits the macadam, etc. 1 Quote
Tony Monticelli Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 i wouldnt nessasarly say it not the cheap shells, some expand when shot a little more than others but thats usually just a slight problem for double barrels and auto ejectors and even then most those auto ejectors spit the shells hard enofe to where it doesnt matter just some fly further than others or at least pop the shells 3/4 the way up and thats a bons nice and easy to just pop out and put in your pocket, those are the good shells you dont have chase them LOL it being an 870 though it shouldnt matter it should still pull even the worste of shot shells out no prob even the auto loaders spit em out reliably when clean and working in good condition. the claw could be a problem, it being broken well thats a lil rear but not un heard of... also over time going stiff or stuck ive seen allot, usually the duck guys after while run into that issue but thats from allot of use and abuse with min care, they take a beating... but thats just easy fix little oil work the claw back and forth a little bit of oil and thats that.... if its something wrong with the claw maybe a slight defect or broken etc then thats an easy inepensive fix, most good gun stores and avid shooters and any gunsmith can fix that why return it if it thats the issue you know... if your short stroken it or being to gentle well..... but you said they sometimes stay in the chamber i dont think it would fire if you didnt have it all the way into battery if does you have a bigger problem then them just not ejecting. so that being the case it should pull the shell even if your gentle weather or not it flys out the action well give it a good reliable pump you know, but it even gentle it should still pull that shell from the chamber. Quote
Jim_M Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 You're probably nancy short-stroking it. Take it to the range, load, and then complete only the rearward stroke of the slide, bringing it all the way to the rear with some force. Does the shell eject? If not, then you have a problem with the extractor most likely. I've shot and seen shot several hundreds of thousands of rounds through 870s, and never seen a malfunction like that that wasn't operator error, unless the extractor broke, which shouldn't be on a new gun. /\ /\ /\ this Quote
endless Posted March 13, 2012 Author Posted March 13, 2012 Wee went to shoot today and the same gun jamming up or not spiting shell out but my srew cap that holds the barrel on had again came lose so I took it back to Green Top and sadly the had to ship it off. They said be 2 to 4 weeks and I'm not happy about it at all. it is what it is though and I'll hopefully get it back soon. Sucks only had the gun a month too. Quote
Tony Monticelli Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 yea sometime that little cap retainer can not lock in on em right and doesnt keep it from staying tight... i have an 1100 that did that well the button got stuck down... but it still cycled fine,, loss some accuracy with slugs every time it started to go a little loose and i just give it turn tight again... for now i seem to have fixed it by working a little break free cp oil into it but i dont think it will not stay fixed for some reason it seems it will be temporary, ill need to replace it or just get a new forend for it when it starts happening again. Quote
Tony Monticelli Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 i could see that to cause your problem though, barrel a lil loose that little bit of give causeing the extractor claw to loose its hold on the shells rim... but if you tightn it all the way hard it should stay tight enofe to eject the first anyway, id think?... it took my auto around 3-4 shots for the tube cap to start to get loose and the cap retainer was stuck down and had no hold on the cap at all.. but thats a differant shotgun anyway so? Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Either its a rough chamber/dirty, or its bad ammo. Change the ammo to some Win AA and see what happens. If it continues its the gun. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted March 13, 2012 Super User Posted March 13, 2012 I see you found a solution and I am late to the party, but another thing that many gun noobs do is OVER oil/grease/lube your gun. This excess of lube collects dust/dirt,powder and all other junk and makes the actions sticky or just not work! FYI! Jeff Quote
endless Posted March 13, 2012 Author Posted March 13, 2012 Yea Green Top couldn't figure out the jamming problem but today I got a call the went ahead and exchange the gun out. I was shocked they told they only do it with in the week of having the new gun and since I had it a month it was post to be shipped and repaired. Man thanks to Green Top to changing their mind and rules. He did notice on my older gun I have the plug in wrong so when you place the screw cap it wasn't making the clicking/ tightening noise. I told him I can take the old gun back and try then but he said that still wouldn't solve the jamming problem. He said they did do a test on my new gun to make sure good to go and he said it's fine. So I'm ready and learned a few things lol. Quote
Tony Monticelli Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 I see you found a solution and I am late to the party, but another thing that many gun noobs do is OVER oil/grease/lube your gun. This excess of lube collects dust/dirt,powder and all other junk and makes the actions sticky or just not work! FYI! Jeff lil oil goes a long way.... Quote
Tony Monticelli Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 over oil a 1911 and your wearing it.. LOL ive done that granted i still give it a "little extra" but not so much as to creat an oil slick on the range... Quote
VolFan Posted March 14, 2012 Posted March 14, 2012 870s need VERY little oil. They really just need you to set the oil near the firing mech after you clean it. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted March 14, 2012 Super User Posted March 14, 2012 Iv had mine for 15 years I don't think iv ever oiled it besides the outside to prevent rust. The slug barrel gets brushed briefly as well that's it it's never been disassembled and cleaned. This year was the first year iv hit the trigger and something didn't die besides a little part of me lol. The 870 is probably one of the most reliable shotguns out there if not the most period. You must of got a bad one though iv been hearing alot of bad things sense the remlin merge. Two great gun makers merged to make one crappy one. Marlins were great and now suck same with remingtons. Quote
endless Posted March 14, 2012 Author Posted March 14, 2012 I love the gun just hope the new one is great with no problems. I'm ready to start collecting other chokes and parts. Any suggestions? Quote
MN_SONNEN_ANGLER Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 /\ /\ /\ this but i is pretty reoccuring on 870 EXPRESS models, wingmasters and the very early EXPRESSES didnt have the issues the brand new ones. the extractor, along with the rest of the internals on those guns are very cheap. i would have a whole parts kit for it. Quote
Michael DiNardo Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 One thing to remember is to always load the gun through the magazine tube. What I mean is don't put a shell in through the ejection port and slam the slide closed. It was not meant to work like that and bad for the extractor. Mike Quote
Mountain Angler Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 Thats weird lol 870s are great shotguns and it may be cheap shells try some new shells and see what that does Quote
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