BassFishingMachine Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Hey guys, its that time of year again, when the pickerel bite is really good, and the bass are scattered around here and there in a certain lake I fish. Only problem is sometimes the pickerel will really devour the bait and I end up snapping off on the hookset. I've also had alot of misses. I'd like to know what size hook you use for the 5inch Super Fluke, and what you recommend on doing for solving the issue on snapping off on hooksets due to pickerel teeth. The hooks I've been using are 4/0 Offset Shank Worm Hooks (not extra wide gap). And the line is 10lb fluoro. As always, thanks for any help! Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 A 5/0 EWG hook and this: http://www.tackledirect.com/tygerleader.html Quote
Movarus Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 A 5/0 EWG hook and this:http://www.tackledirect.com/tygerleader.html x2 I don't fish pickerel or pike as much as I used to, but I remember always having a steel leader on if I was targeting them. Quote
Super User Raul Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 You are using the wrong hook, baits like superflukes, shaddicks & shad assasins ball up and choke the gap of the hook when you make the hookset, you need either a wide gap hook or a straight shank hook, guys love to use monster size hooks for those baits, dunno but I don 't think you need them, 3/0 EWG is what I use and I do fine. Quote
SPAZ Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 I've always used 4/0 EWG gamakatsu hook. I think having an extra wide gap hook is important for weightless flukes. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 4/0 or 5/0 Owner Wide Gap Plus and the twist and melt coated steel leader will work fine for pickerel. I use the same stuff for northern pike up here. You can also use 40-50 lb. fluoro leader material, though that can get expensive. Quote
senko_77 Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 You are using the wrong hook, baits like superflukes, shaddicks & shad assasins ball up and choke the gap of the hook when you make the hookset, you need either a wide gap hook or a straight shank hook, guys love to use monster size hooks for those baits, dunno but I don 't think you need them, 3/0 EWG is what I use and I do fine. X2. The Fluke is my go-to bait year round. I use a 3/0 Gamakatsu E.W.G. I don't know what to tell you about the Pickeral problem because I don't have Pics here. I fish my Fluke on 8lb line with a small Spro leader 12 inches up. Quote
BassFishingMachine Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 Thanks for the replies guys, I don't have any steel leader, but wouldn't that deter bass from hitting due to visibility? I do have some 40lb Fluoro leader material I use for striper, should I give that a try, and you don't think it would deter bass? Quote
Super User Raul Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 Thanks for the replies guys, I don't have any steel leader, but wouldn't that deter bass from hitting due to visibility? I do have some 40lb Fluoro leader material I use for striper, should I give that a try, and you don't think it would deter bass? We don 't have pickerel down here but in some places I 've fish there 's gar ( and some really bigguns ! ), the steel leader has never seemed to deter bass from hitting the bait. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 For Super Flukes (not the magnums), I use a Gamakatsu Super Line 4/0 Hook. Rigged centrally (not in the nose), the 4/0 hvy-wire gamee is perfectly balanced with the 5" fluke, and darts alternately to the left, and to the right without any nosediving. Roger Quote
BobP Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 I use a 3/0 EWG Gamy too. To prevent it from balling up on the hook, I coat the Fluke with an oil based attractant like Kickn' Bass before inserting the hook. Lubed like that, the Fluke will normally climb up the line instead of getting balled up or torn. So you use fewer baits. I usually deadstick Superflukes and it's easy for a bass to swallow it before you sense the strike. It happens often enough that I now crimp down the hook barb so I can get it out more easily. Never had one jump off, so crimping the hook is good for the fish and gets me fishing again faster, too. I'd try a short leader of 20lb fluorocarbon leader material. It's tougher than regular fluoro line. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted October 7, 2009 Super User Posted October 7, 2009 For Super Flukes (not the magnums), I use a Gamakatsu Super Line 4/0 Hook. Rigged centrally (not in the nose), the 4/0 hvy-wire gamee is perfectly balanced with the 5" fluke, and darts alternately to the left, and to the right without any nosediving. Roger Roger, what do you mean "centrally (not in ht nose)"? Quote
Super User RoLo Posted October 7, 2009 Super User Posted October 7, 2009 For Super Flukes (not the magnums), I use a Gamakatsu Super Line 4/0 Hook. Rigged centrally (not in the nose), the 4/0 hvy-wire gamee is perfectly balanced with the 5" fluke, and darts alternately to the left, and to the right without any nosediving. Roger Roger, what do you mean "centrally (not in ht nose)"? I've often read where a member would refer to "nose-hooking" the fluke, which I'd assume means that the hook is confined to the head area. I rig the fluke so the hook-point is central in the lure, and the point is embedded in plastic. Since I use braided line, getting through the plastic is never a problem. Roger Quote
skillet Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 I use the EWG Gammi 4/0. I try my darndest to hook flukes the same way every time, even down to trimming the nose if there seems to be extra plastic. Every now and then one will act like I think they are supposed to (NEVER consistently :'(). Just a RANT... skillet Quote
luz2blaze Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 I use the EWG Gammi 4/0. I try my darndest to hook flukes the same way every time, even down to trimming the nose if there seems to be extra plastic. Every now and then one will act like I think they are supposed to (NEVER consistently :'(). Just a RANT...skillet i'm with ya there skillet...each one has its own personality, cybill baits Thats what I LOVE about em! Quote
Super User Bassin_Fin@tic Posted October 9, 2009 Super User Posted October 9, 2009 I use the EWG Gammi 4/0. I try my darndest to hook flukes the same way every time, even down to trimming the nose if there seems to be extra plastic. Every now and then one will act like I think they are supposed to (NEVER consistently :'(). Just a RANT...skillet So true my friend.They seem to have a mind of their own.Sometimes thats good though. Quote
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