Mottfia Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 WT*??? are you serious Paul? Gasoline had no affect on the catch rate? Mottfia
Bobby Uhrig Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 All Ive got to say is come watch some of the demonstrations we do at the sports shows we attend every year. Watch and learn. Ask Russ *** from Yamamoto what we do with and without MegaStrike. Believe me seeing is believing.
Super User Tin Posted September 22, 2009 Super User Posted September 22, 2009 Scent or no scent...it makes ZERO difference. I have messed around with it a lot with all the big selling and popular ones and never noticed a difference.
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 22, 2009 Super User Posted September 22, 2009 All Ive got to say is come watch some of the demonstrations we do at the sports shows we attend every year. Watch and learn. Ask Russ *** from Yamamoto what we do with and without MegaStrike. Believe me seeing is believing. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink! I find MegaStike to be an effective scent and outstanding lubricant for both hard baits and soft plastics. :
rubba bubba Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 I only recently started to use Megastrike and the first day out, I wasn't using it as I forgot I had it to try. No hits at all for a couple of hours. I then remembered I had it with me and after applying, the very next couple of casts I had a nice 1.5-2lbs'er. I then proceeded to outfish my partner the rest of afternoon (who did not use it). I'm a believer. I also agree with it's value as a lubricant.
Mattlures Posted September 22, 2009 Author Posted September 22, 2009 Bobby do you have any videos of the demonstartions you can post? I would like to see them. Paul, I use Megastrike,Procure scents and my own. I fish for many differnt species and I have found that scent helps more on some then others. I am a firm beliver in fish holding on longer because of taist.
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted September 22, 2009 Super User Posted September 22, 2009 Bobby do you have any videos of the demonstartions you can post?I would like to see them. Paul, I use Megastrike,Procure scents and my own. I fish for many differnt species and I have found that scent helps more on some then others. I am a firm beliver in fish holding on longer because of taist. i also use PRO-CURE scents , the gel and the butter in trout flavor , a must for swimbaiters .........
Blue Streak Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Because of it's popularity on here I have been using Megastrike all season. Sorry but it is about the same as any other "scent". It has not increased my strike or catch rate.
looking4structure Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I think it makes them hold on longer.I like using scents to help lube my soft plastics to make them go threw the timber a little better.
Tanker4lyfe Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Ok i guess no one has tried JJ's Magic then cause that stuff flat out works!!!!!!!
-HAWK- Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I'm not really sure if scents make a difference in actually attracting fish. But I still use Megastrike to lubricate my soft swimbaits (Hudds, Mattlures bluegill, Lake Fork etc.) I also use JJ's clear on all of my Soft plastics. At the very least it will mask the Human odor. Maybe even get the bass to hold on 1-2 sec. longer to give me a chance to set the hook.
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 23, 2009 Super User Posted September 23, 2009 Ok i guess no one has tried JJ's Magic then cause that stuff flat out works!!!!!!! I use JJ's on all my jig trailers, pre-marinated and securely repackaged! On all other soft plastics and most hard baits, MegaStrike. I really like the Magic, but MegaStrike is much more "user friendly". 8-)
Blue Streak Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 That sunscreen post was within the year -on Lake Erie I believe. They were dropping tubes to smallies on sonar. As I remember it, the sunscreen outfished those without. Statisitically it wasn't anything to write home about, but it at least showed that the sunscreen did not repel the bass. I also remember a very old experiment done or reported by Homer Circle in F&S (I think) in which they soaked one group of plastic worms in gasoline, and found no difference in catch rate.
Super User Paul Roberts Posted September 23, 2009 Super User Posted September 23, 2009 That sunscreen post was within the year -on Lake Erie I believe. They were dropping tubes to smallies on sonar. As I remember it, the sunscreen outfished those without. Statisitically it wasn't anything to write home about, but it at least showed that the sunscreen did not repel the bass.I also remember a very old experiment done or reported by Homer Circle in F&S (I think) in which they soaked one group of plastic worms in gasoline, and found no difference in catch rate. Thanks for that information, I learn something every day. I read the book Knowing Bass by Dr. Keith Jones and he stated that the only two smells that actually repel bass are sun screen and insect repellent. It is a very informative book but apparently it is not one hundred per cent accurate. I don't think we will ever completly understand these critters called bass. You are right on the DEET (insect repellent) and PABA (sunscreen)...but there is more. Read pages 84-85. You are also right that we will never know all there is to know about bass. And what we do know is full of qualifications.
Super User Paul Roberts Posted September 23, 2009 Super User Posted September 23, 2009 Bobby do you have any videos of the demonstartions you can post?I would like to see them. Paul, I use Megastrike,Procure scents and my own. I fish for many differnt species and I have found that scent helps more on some then others. I am a firm beliver in fish holding on longer because of taist. Thanks. One of these days I'll have to get around to playing around with it myself. With plastics though, the bass often hold the bait so long that I have gone barbless bc they may ingest them. Not sure I want to add to that. Then again, they do spit a jig pretty quick -even with pork. Not sure why that is: weight I'm assuming. I wonder if an attractant would have them old a jig longer?
Quinte bass Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 No. X 2...I even croon , talk and on occasion, pretend to ignore the existence of bass in the hope they will prove me wrong....that does me as much good as scents....and costs me nothing...
slider head Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I think scent makes a difference. Â I am sold on the Yum stuff. If I have a bag of stuff that begins to dry out I will spray Yum in the bag.
Bobby Uhrig Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I have a video here that was taken in one of the bass tanks. One video show a bass actually swallowing a bait with MegaStrike on it and the other video in the same tank shows a bass coming back and hitting a bait about 7 times after the bait is pulled away. Believe me you can see it registering with the bass - it wants it not for the reaction strike but for the taste. Pretty wild video-it was taken with a camcorder at one of the shows and has to be converted to be shown on the web. i will see what i can do
Mattlures Posted September 23, 2009 Author Posted September 23, 2009 My theory is that the smell doesnt make a lot of difference, maybe a little. but I think the taste makes a huge difference. I also think we as fisherman get a lot more bites then we know of. When a bass holds the bait longer we will detect these  bites and belive we are getting more bites with scent then without. In any case I think it helps put more bass in the boat. I also like the lube factor with swimbaits. Bobby please post up what you got!
Super User Paul Roberts Posted September 23, 2009 Super User Posted September 23, 2009 ...I also think we as fisherman get a lot more bites then we know of. ... Definitely true there. You are making a good case for the taste and lubricant properties of "attractants".
Bobby Uhrig Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Bass are sight feeders for sure-they react to what they have been conditioned to eat since they were hatched and genetically for generations. I believe and that's why I spent so much time researching  that bass and other fish use smell and taste more than we think.I  have stated many times that there are zero proofs and /or absolutes when dealing with live creatures. From what I have seen over the years in the wild/and in captivity-bass are highly attuned to using smell to trigger strikes. Two years ago at ICAST I demonstrated using baits with and without Megastrike . No hooks no line no rods -just throwing different baits into the tank with Mega  and without.The bass would swallow baits with it and expel them without. I would toss heavier ones so they got to the bottom(just pieces ow plastics/tubes ect) and the bass would home in on them and find them amongst the gravel on the bottom. I want to see if I can convert the tapes I have to format -so we can view them here- I will see how we can do it-THEN you tell me what you think.
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 24, 2009 Super User Posted September 24, 2009 Seeing is believing and we obviously have a few non-believers! If you can produce the tapes, I think that would be a TREMENDOUS marketing tool. For those of us that know your reputation, that would be the icing on the cake! 8-)
Quinte bass Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Seeing is believing and we obviously have a few non-believers! Well, I guess if I was involved in the marketing/selling of such super bass savvy smelly potions, I would be praising it to the heavens...'don't go fishing without some' scenario. However I am not (at least not any more) so I tend to err on the side of cynicism when it comes to tackle/aids that more often then not are designed to catch fishermen rather than fish....Having said that, I am open to being convinced.......now, I have some nice waterfront in Florida, though dampness could be a problem....
Super User Catt Posted September 24, 2009 Super User Posted September 24, 2009 I use it for two purposes first as a lubricant because I fish in grass a lot and it helps my plastic baits slide through easier.  I use Fish Formula II or Baitmate (clear) with a ½ oz of pure anise oil added; this is to mast any odor my plastic may have pick up. Just like with lure color I've seen times when scent made absolutely no difference at all and I've seen times when scent make all the difference in the world. I know several guys that use WD-40 on all their plastics with excellent results
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