Super User Grey Wolf Posted September 8, 2009 Super User Posted September 8, 2009 Some body has to be at the bottom of the barrel and they qualify. Quote
basser89 Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 Hey I really like Eagle Claw's tie clip/hat pin but they even loose their finish rather quickly. ;D ;D ;D ;D Quote
Super User islandbass Posted September 8, 2009 Super User Posted September 8, 2009 I have used the ECs for like small trout and pan fish, but I have seen a few hooks break. Is there a metallurgist among us that could really give us the skinny in comparing these hooks (owner, gammy, mustad, etc.)? That would be very interesting. Compare a) Corrosion Resistance Bending Tolerance (ie, how much force the hook can withstand before bending) c) Hook Points I would if I knew how. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted September 8, 2009 Super User Posted September 8, 2009 The only reason that comes to mind is that they are poor in the hook world. Quote
21farms Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 i just went over to their website at www.fishlazer.com. click on 'tech info' and it'll tell you all you need to know. not one mention of quality, design nor innovation; just that they're 'turned out by the millions by americans.' the trokar thing is perplexing to me...for example, the trokar dropshot hooks are 5 for $9.99. gammy dropshot hooks are $8.70 and you get 25 of them! Quote
TrippyJai Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 There's only two brands of hooks I won't buy....Eagle Claw and VMCBad experiences right out of the containers I've heard that the VMC EWG hooks are terrible, but I hope you aren't talking about the trebles because this is the only brand I put on my crankbaits. They seem to be sharp, but I've had issues with it bending once in a while. Lucky Crafts if I recall also use VMC trebles as well as many other brands of crankbaits. Quote
Super User Tin Posted September 9, 2009 Super User Posted September 9, 2009 ...because they suck. Quote
BassFishingMachine Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Don't know about VMCs for freshwater, but they sure do make some nice saltwater grade trebles. Pretty much every top plug builder uses VMCs on their plugs in saltwater. Quote
Super User Sam Posted September 9, 2009 Super User Posted September 9, 2009 RobE, Eagle Claw hooks seem to rust very rapidly. I still use them after they get a coat of rust, but I don't like it so I use other brands. Quote
kikstand454 Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 i used them exclusively for years... and in retrospect i guess the problems i had with them i didnt realize cause i didnt know any better. i would say that the quality issues are that they arent as sharp as slightly higher priced competetors and that they rust quickly IF NOT TAKEN CARE OF. i cant not think of a time that i straightend a lazersharp ewg on a fish. what the hell are you guys doing to your fish? ;D nowadays i use gammys only and liek i said its because for just a bit more money you get a vastly superior hook. and as stated before.. its not the place you want to scimp if you can help it. Quote
Super User islandbass Posted September 9, 2009 Super User Posted September 9, 2009 There's only two brands of hooks I won't buy....Eagle Claw and VMCBad experiences right out of the containers I've heard that the VMC EWG hooks are terrible, but I hope you aren't talking about the trebles because this is the only brand I put on my crankbaits. They seem to be sharp, but I've had issues with it bending once in a while. Lucky Crafts if I recall also use VMC trebles as well as many other brands of crankbaits. x2. Their trebles are excellent and are the best bang for the buck. They sell 25 packs for about $5. That CAN'T be beat by anyone. Good enough for Rapala, good enough for me (trebles). Quote
RobE Posted September 9, 2009 Author Posted September 9, 2009 Wowsers! 3 pages and close to 1,000 reads in two days. I didn't expect this! I agree with the majority of the replies and, for those that bothered to actually read the initial post rather than to merely reply to the thread title - thank you. My point was; while Eagle Claw may not be our first (or even 9th) choice of hook, a good percentage of the replies indicate using at least some EC product. What does that tell you? If EC aberdeens work for crappie, why knock the company as a whole? Perhaps a rep of EC will catch this thread and the company re-thinks its market position. Besides - I think I look pretty stylin' in my EC ball cap. My Mister Twister cap doesn't match my PFD. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 10, 2009 Super User Posted September 10, 2009 BS... Don't promote inferior products. 8-) Quote
RobE Posted September 10, 2009 Author Posted September 10, 2009 BS...Don't promote inferior products. 8-) No, RW, I'm serious! This cap is the 'one size fits all', 'micro-adjustable velcro strap' model in Beige with Royal Blue embroidery and it was made in Morraco, Mississippi! Oh... wait.. Uhh.. my mistake. :-[ Do you have a suit it will match? If so, I'll wash it and pay postage. 8-) Quote
RobE Posted September 10, 2009 Author Posted September 10, 2009 R U S T I love Neil Young, too! Quote
Verewolf Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Can't speak about all the other EC hooks but - Been using EC bronze style 42 size 14 hooks for steelhead fishing for over 20 years. Never a problem, no rust and hundreds of steelhead caught on these tiny hooks. And more trout than I can begin to count. Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 10, 2009 Super User Posted September 10, 2009 Eagle Claw hooks is all Wal-Mart carries now; I think there is a clue in that somewhere Quote
Verewolf Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Eagle Claw hooks is all Wal-Mart carries now; I think there is a clue in that somewhere Walmart here also carries Gamakatsu and Mustad. Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 10, 2009 Super User Posted September 10, 2009 Eagle Claw hooks is all Wal-Mart carries now; I think there is a clue in that somewhere Walmart here also carries Gamakatsu and Mustad. Hold on they are changing all stories nation wide Quote
tyrius. Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Hold on they are changing all stories nation wide Sweet!!! Maybe I can get increase my supply of gammies at rock bottom prices!!!! I've got some smoking deals on hooks from Wal-Mart and if they put all Gammies on clearence I'll stock up even more. Quote
Verewolf Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Hold on they are changing all stories nation wide Sweet!!! Maybe I can get increase my supply of gammies at rock bottom prices!!!! I've got some smoking deals on hooks from Wal-Mart and if they put all Gammies on clearence I'll stock up even more. The Super Walmart store here is in the process of a complete makeover. The fishing dept was expanded and now there's large selection of the hooks plus a decent selection of Zoom, Kinami, Abu etc. Walmarts price for the gammie hooks is just a few pennies less than the Bass Pro Shop nearby. Quote
Super User Bassin_Fin@tic Posted September 10, 2009 Super User Posted September 10, 2009 Since were on the wally world subject.wal mart around here only sells gammies in saltwater hooks.In fact 98% of all their tackle is saltwater : Maybe I am doing the wrong thing LOL. Quote
Needemp Posted September 11, 2009 Posted September 11, 2009 They aren't as sharp as Gammies and they will dull down further, quicker and easier than Gammies. This is an experiment you can do while pleasure fishing. Use both different hooks, keep track of fish caught and snaggs and see which one is sharper and lasts as long. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted September 11, 2009 Super User Posted September 11, 2009 Hold on they are changing all stories nation wide Sweet!!! Maybe I can get increase my supply of gammies at rock bottom prices!!!! I've got some smoking deals on hooks from Wal-Mart and if they put all Gammies on clearence I'll stock up even more. The Super Walmart store here is in the process of a complete makeover. The fishing dept was expanded and now there's large selection of the hooks plus a decent selection of Zoom, Kinami, Abu etc. Walmarts price for the gammie hooks is just a few pennies less than the Bass Pro Shop nearby. All of our Wal-marts are turning into "Super walmarts" as i type this.It'd be nice if they expand their Fishing Dept. however last time i was there they reduced it.They went from two rows down to one. > I hope they change it when they are completely finished,but from the look and sound of things they said "That it". I now take the extra 8 minute drive to dick's sporting goods to get my stuff. Quote
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