catchnm Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I'm guessing #2 or #3 but that is all it is.....a guess. I don't really know how the sizes are rated. Anyone with help? Quote
Will Wetline Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 I like the concept of this rig too and put one together using a Gamakatsu EWG hook, the lighter-wire version rather than the heavier Superline. #2 rings worked fine. One thing that occurs to me about using a standard split ring rather than buying the hook with the welded ring, is that we have to be mindful of the line tie-off point - we don't want the knot to be snugged up in the split of the ring. Another thought is to use a #10 snap swivel rather than the lower ring. This will not only expedite changing weights. Taking off the weight leaves you with the open snap to attach to your rod's hook keeper while not in use. This snap swivel does lengthen the entire rig, of course . . . I can't wait for my favorite bass water to open here in MA so I can try out the variations on this innovative rig. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted February 4, 2012 Super User Posted February 4, 2012 The split ring size would vary depending on what size hook/bait/weight you are using. Just get a selection of split rings and give it a whirl. I am! Quote
Super User grimlin Posted February 4, 2012 Super User Posted February 4, 2012 I just put some together a few weeks ago...I put #2 on it. I like the idea of a snap swivel on it though. Quote
ks cranker Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 I'd like to add another question to this... What weights are you all using? I'm thinking about using a cylinder style drop shot weight... anyone found something better to use? Quote
catchnm Posted February 6, 2012 Author Posted February 6, 2012 what is jika rig? http://www.google.com/search?q=jika+rig&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a I'm going to use #2 to the hook and #1 to the weight, seems to be the general consensus. If using a really large casting weight I'll probably go with 2-#2. I'll be using 1/2 oz. drop shot weights to start but found a guy who makes them in sizes from 1/32 to 5/8 oz. so I'll be sticking with that style for the most part. I may try some regular casting weights too but I like the slim drop shot idea and think tey will work for this rig best. Now I just have to aquire all the parts and start assembling some. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted February 7, 2012 Super User Posted February 7, 2012 My attempt at a few Jika rigs. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted February 7, 2012 Super User Posted February 7, 2012 My attempt at a few Jika rigs. Notice you put two split rings on there....any reason why 2 instead of just one? Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted February 7, 2012 Super User Posted February 7, 2012 Notice you put two split rings on there....any reason why 2 instead of just one? I just built it as close to the original design as I could, not sure if it would make any difference with only the one splitring or not, but thought I would like to fish it as close to original and then may make modifications after that. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 A snap swivel is probably a weaker link than a split ring. A Duo Lock with a swivel added might be safer. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 7, 2012 Super User Posted February 7, 2012 I just built it as close to the original design as I could, not sure if it would make any difference with only the one splitring or not, but thought I would like to fish it as close to original and then may make modifications after that. The first ring is the welded ring that on the Gamakatsu Superline EWG hook: If the hook doesn't have the welded ring, the second split is probably redundant, but doesn't look like it would hurt. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Has anyone fished this and a Biffle Hardhead? They seem similar but this rig looks like the bait would have even more free action. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 7, 2012 Super User Posted February 7, 2012 I've fished something similar to the hardhead, and they are different. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted February 7, 2012 Super User Posted February 7, 2012 I agree that the second splitring may be redundant, sure would be allot quicker to not have to mess with the second splitring. I made a change to the way I had them originally built, and changed the #2 splitring on the weight to a #1, cleans it up a little , gonna go with this and see how they do. I have ordered some of the Gammi's with the welded ring, they will be the next change. Quote
Brandon K. Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 I like the looks of this. River current would make a bait go crazy with this rig. Do you think the second split ring on the weight would weaken your knot easily? Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted February 8, 2012 Super User Posted February 8, 2012 I like the looks of this. River current would make a bait go crazy with this rig. Do you think the second split ring on the weight would weaken your knot easily? Honestly, I don't know, I don't see the knot and splitring coming in contact with each other that much, but it is sure something that will have to be checked. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted February 8, 2012 Super User Posted February 8, 2012 I like the looks of this. River current would make a bait go crazy with this rig. Do you think the second split ring on the weight would weaken your knot easily? That's the main reason why i want to try it...My thoughts exactly...the river current will really help. Since I do a lot of river fishing,I had that in mind. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 8, 2012 Super User Posted February 8, 2012 That's the main reason why i want to try it...My thoughts exactly...the river current will really help. Since I do a lot of river fishing,I had that in mind. Off topic, but take a look at the butt dragger heads baits: http://www.confidencebaits.net/index.html. They were designed by my friend Jeff Little for fishing the Susquehanna River. They overcome many of the pitfalls of bait eating rivers. 1 Quote
Flukeman Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 My Dad used to fish this rig for carp with what I will call a pencil lead no snag type of weight. Not sure if that is what the weight is called. He would catch giant carp and never had trouble with line breakage by the split ring. The weight would drag through the silt, not get snagged, and would stir up the soft bottom and attract the fish. I have some he made back when in a tackle box he left me, never thought to use them for bass. Quote
catchnm Posted February 26, 2012 Author Posted February 26, 2012 Got some made up. About 20 so far. Hooks are Eagle Claw Lazer Sharp.....5/0, 3/0, and 1/0. Weights are 1/2 oz., 3/8, 3/16, and 1/8. #2 split ring to the hook and #1 to the weight. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted February 26, 2012 Super User Posted February 26, 2012 Those turned out very nice, I did change the original design of mine to something more similar to yours, can't wait to get these in the water. Quote
catchnm Posted February 26, 2012 Author Posted February 26, 2012 Awesome! That bug looks lethal. Quote
Super User webertime Posted February 26, 2012 Super User Posted February 26, 2012 Awesome! That bug looks lethal. You did not see that thing, it doesn't exist and fish hate it... Quote
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