craww Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I've acquired two from my grandfather. One with the bull barel, one with the regular. From what I gather these things have a big cult following but were only made for a short time, as evidently they didnt sell that great new. Anyone have any experience with them? what ammo did yours like? I'm going to try the hornady SST's in 95 grain for whitetail. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted February 3, 2012 Super User Posted February 3, 2012 I shoot a .243(6mm) case is a little diffrent but the 6mm is a great round bullets from 55gr all the way up to 115gr for 1000yd match. A great sight with lot of info is 6mmbr.com there's load data tons of stuff bout all the 6mm rounds. Quote
craww Posted February 3, 2012 Author Posted February 3, 2012 Thanks for the link man! From what i gather, the .243 was the 6mm's downfall. Alot of people already had a .243, albeit the .244 (later known as REM 6MM) was a bit faster and flatter shooting off the shelf. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted February 6, 2012 Super User Posted February 6, 2012 I had a custom built .244/6mm Rem. made for me back in the late 60's and had it for many years. It was a semi-bull barreled and shot like a dream. Used it for chuck shooting mostly. My longest shot being 227 paces across a long field. Handloaded with Sierra's 85 gr. hollow point, boattails, this rifle would consistently keep her shots around an inch at 100 yards. I don't remember the load specifically, but it was with IMR 4350. The sharper shoulder and longer neck of the .244 makes this cartridge a more flexible handload and slightly ballistically superior to the .243. Not sure just why it never took off the way the .243 did, but if you have a .244 now, cherish it! Quote
SDoolittle Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 Thanks for the link man! From what i gather, the .243 was the 6mm's downfall. Alot of people already had a .243, albeit the .244 (later known as REM 6MM) was a bit faster and flatter shooting off the shelf. The .243 WIN and the .244 REM were actually released the same year. My guess is that Winchester did a better job at marketing their new round than Remington. Winchester offered a 100 grain bullet in .243, and they advertised it as a deer/antelope round, while the .244's 75 and 90 grain rounds were looked at as more of a varmint round. Quote
craww Posted February 22, 2012 Author Posted February 22, 2012 I had a custom built .244/6mm Rem. made for me back in the late 60's and had it for many years. It was a semi-bull barreled and shot like a dream. Used it for chuck shooting mostly. My longest shot being 227 paces across a long field. Handloaded with Sierra's 85 gr. hollow point, boattails, this rifle would consistently keep her shots around an inch at 100 yards. I don't remember the load specifically, but it was with IMR 4350. The sharper shoulder and longer neck of the .244 makes this cartridge a more flexible handload and slightly ballistically superior to the .243. Not sure just why it never took off the way the .243 did, but if you have a .244 now, cherish it! Man I bet that round obliterated a whistle pig! I found the bull barrel gun didnt like the hornady's I shot that much, couldnt get a consistent group. i may have my stepdad handload some of the 95 grain HP sierra's. Their among my most cherised possesions, being that my grandfather owned them. That heavy barrelled model killed a TON of groundhogs. I have a 2x6 out of his deer stand with about 75 notches in it. Everytime he killed a deer he'd knotch it. The 6mm was all he used for whitetail, my uncles tell stories of him doing some impressive shots with those guns. Quote
craww Posted February 22, 2012 Author Posted February 22, 2012 The .243 WIN and the .244 REM were actually released the same year. My guess is that Winchester did a better job at marketing their new round than Remington. Winchester offered a 100 grain bullet in .243, and they advertised it as a deer/antelope round, while the .244's 75 and 90 grain rounds were looked at as more of a varmint round. Your right. I guess I had it in my head that it wasnt called the "6mm Rem" until later. Didnt realise they came out at the same time. I guess since the .243's sold so well initially by the time they changed the name it was too late. It looks like handloading is gonna be my best option on ammo. Off the shelf the 95 grain hornady has the best specs, but didnt perform so hot in the rifle I used. I have some core lokts to try, and may get a box of federals as well. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted February 23, 2012 Super User Posted February 23, 2012 Man I bet that round obliterated a whistle pig! I found the bull barrel gun didnt like the hornady's I shot that much, couldnt get a consistent group. i may have my stepdad handload some of the 95 grain HP sierra's. Their among my most cherised possesions, being that my grandfather owned them. That heavy barrelled model killed a TON of groundhogs. I have a 2x6 out of his deer stand with about 75 notches in it. Everytime he killed a deer he'd knotch it. The 6mm was all he used for whitetail, my uncles tell stories of him doing some impressive shots with those guns. I shoot a 58gr vmax outa my .243 and it does fairly good damage depending on where u hit it. Quote
zip pow Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 I use hornady 87 grain v- max hand loaded with 43.5 grains of IMR 4350 its a good load not quite a compressed load but almost it fills the case almost to the neck Quote
craww Posted February 23, 2012 Author Posted February 23, 2012 I use hornady 87 grain v- max hand loaded with 43.5 grains of IMR 4350 its a good load not quite a compressed load but almost it fills the case almost to the neck You use it on whitetails? Quote
zip pow Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 You use it on whitetails? sure do me and three other guys that work for us its great whitetail round I'm experimenting with a 100. Grain a-max with reloader 22 but I've got to check it at altitude before I'd recommend it 1 Quote
craww Posted February 23, 2012 Author Posted February 23, 2012 Thats awesome, be sure and share your results if you can. I had a guy tell me the other day those rounds arent big enough to consistently drop deer. He then tried to argue you need at least a .280 to hunt around here (where a big deer is 200lb on the hoof). No point in trying to argue with the dumb, lol. I field hunt alot out of a stand where a 450+ yard shot is very possible. Once I figure out the right bullet I'm gonna try some target shooting out of it this summer. Personally I've never taken a deer over 250, so I look forward to getting it dialed in. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted February 24, 2012 Super User Posted February 24, 2012 Thats awesome, be sure and share your results if you can. I had a guy tell me the other day those rounds arent big enough to consistently drop deer. He then tried to argue you need at least a .280 to hunt around here (where a big deer is 200lb on the hoof). No point in trying to argue with the dumb, lol. I field hunt alot out of a stand where a 450+ yard shot is very possible. Once I figure out the right bullet I'm gonna try some target shooting out of it this summer. Personally I've never taken a deer over 250, so I look forward to getting it dialed in. Look up the comments on midway USA or any retail store on some of the 6mm bullets people use them on bear elk u name it is all bout placement. The federal vital shocks seem to have the best DRT reviews. It's not a 6mm an iv made posts I think on here about them but .223/5.56 and deer iv been doing alot of research on them and found hundreds of reviews of people DRT deer with 75+gr .223 bullets. It's still small for me I don't wanna do it but it's another example u don't need no .280 for a deer no mater what size. And iv seen 200lb deer droped with a .22lr numerous times with farmer nuisance permits. Quote
craww Posted February 24, 2012 Author Posted February 24, 2012 .223 is a bad dude! I use a model 700 for predator hunting and would have no worries taking a whitetail with a good rest. I'll look into the midway site! Quote
zip pow Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 Thats awesome, be sure and share your results if you can. I had a guy tell me the other day those rounds arent big enough to consistently drop deer. He then tried to argue you need at least a .280 to hunt around here (where a big deer is 200lb on the hoof). No point in trying to argue with the dumb, lol. I field hunt alot out of a stand where a 450+ yard shot is very possible. Once I figure out the right bullet I'm gonna try some target shooting out of it this summer. Personally I've never taken a deer over 250, so I look forward to getting it dialed in. I personally only use that round out to 250 yards any farther and I carry my 270 weatherby magnum or my 30-378 its all personal preferences but if you can pull it off more power to you Quote
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