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i want to get a "crankbait" rod i was thinking about a MH 7' fast action would this be good? and for the reel what gear ration this is going to be used for mid to deep water cranks.

was thinking about a quantum smoke pt rod in med heavy anyone use this or hear about it?

i was also wondering if this would work as a jig rod and maybe a frog rod?

thanks

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I like to use 6'6"-7'0" MH/F rod for Shallow to Mid running cranks and a 7'8"MH/M rod for Deep Divers. I use a 6.2:1 reel for both of them. I like to burn my cranks and slow down if the fish aren't as active.

I have heard some good things about the quantum smoke rod.

I wouldn't use my crankbait rod as a jig or frog rod.

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I fish a 7'0" MH Glass American Rodsmith David Fritts Rod

It is a pretty good rod for general use. It is heavy enough to fish cover or deep but with the glass it is soft enough to fish open water smallies to.....it lacks specifics but if I had to have one rod it does the trick

I'm fishing it on a shimano cruxis, it does actually really really well....but I want a Revo Winch so bad!!!

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Many crankbait specific rods are made with a moderate or moderate fast action, let the weight of the bait that you will be throwing determine the power of rod you will use. Longer rods are good for distance, shorter rods are good for accuracy. It's very hard to find one crankbait rod that will perform well in all situations.

Most crankbait applications will benefit from a reel with a lower I.P.T. something around 20 to 23 inches. I prefer to throw crankbaits on reels with either dual or centrifugal brakes.

Something else to think about is glass -vs- graphite.

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I use a 7' MH/M St. Croix Pro Glass for my crankbaits. I can feel everything my bait is doing and it has the give to keep a fish stuck but the backbone to move a big fish away from cover if I need to. If you use the rod you're describing you could use it for a jig rod too but in most cases a crankbait rod won't make a good jig rod and vice versa. I like a 5.1:1 reel for lipped cranks.

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i want to get a "crankbait" rod i was thinking about a MH 7' fast action would this be good? and for the reel what gear ration this is going to be used for mid to deep water cranks.

was thinking about a quantum smoke pt rod in med heavy anyone use this or hear about it?

i was also wondering if this would work as a jig rod and maybe a frog rod?

thanks

You're searching for two different rods. A moderate action rod can be used for all treble hook lures, and other moving baits. The reasons include protecting your hooks once they're in fish, casting distance, and rod forgiveness when fishing crankbaits. It's completely untrue that crnakbait rods have no feel, most have very good feel and allow you to detect just what's going on with your bait. If you can't feel that, you need a different rod. A jig rod, or any bottom contact application, should be a fast action, at the least. A fast action rod will allow for greater power in hook sets and will also be able to move fish from cover with a little more force in a hurry. It will also allow you to work a bottom contact bait more effectively; a moderate action rod would load up when trying to move a jig, whereas a fast would load just the tip and then move the jig.

A jig rod a crankbait rod does not make.

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thanks for all the info guys.

I guess im going to end up getting two different rods and i changed my mind to a St. Croix Mojo Bass 7' MH moderate for my crank bait rod

and a mojo bass 7' MH fast action for my jig rod

what do u guys think? I like the way they feel at bps

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thanks for all the info guys.

I guess im going to end up getting two different rods and i changed my mind to a St. Croix Mojo Bass 7' MH moderate for my crank bait rod

and a mojo bass 7' MH fast action for my jig rod

what do u guys think? I like the way they feel at bps

I have the Mojo 7'MHF and I love it as a jig/worm rod. Some people say it's tip heavy, but I find it balances nicely with a reel in the 8oz range. make sure you try it with the reel you'l be using on it before you buy. I haven't used the moderate one, but I've been thinking about getting one as a crank rod as well

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If you want something lightweight and with a lifetime warranty, save a few more dollares and buy a Powell Max rod. They have either a 7' Medium action Glass or Graphite rod, your choice! I like the graphite because its more sensitive and has a soft upper third, while strong backbone.

They are wonderful rods for their $140 price point (and the ONLY rod I will throw).

St. Croix makes a good rod. But IMHO, Powell makes a better one.

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If you want something lightweight and with a lifetime warranty, save a few more dollares and buy a Powell Max rod. They have either a 7' Medium action Glass or Graphite rod, your choice! I like the graphite because its more sensitive and has a soft upper third, while strong backbone.

They are wonderful rods for their $140 price point (and the ONLY rod I will throw).

St. Croix makes a good rod. But IMHO, Powell makes a better one.

If he wanted to keep saving, he could keep saving until he had enough for a Megabass rod if he wants the best option. Two powell maxs will cost him $280 while the two mojos will cost him $200.

For $100 though I would look at the Abu Garcia Veritas, Shimano Compre, and the Lamiglass Excel. I have the 7'8" Mojo Glass rod which is a great deep crankbait rod for the money but I didn't like the other mojo rods. I do have a St Croix Premier that I like though.

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i do have a 6'6" M veritas already for my worm rod and i was just looking at their MH Moderate 7' for a cranking rod and it looks nice and feels nice then another 7'3" MH fast for the jig rod.

its nice having a BPS 3 miles from your house :D

i think its going to be 2 more veritas rods now just to decide on reels. i like my PQ and was thinking about 2 more

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The Veritas are nice rods and a friend of mine uses the one you described for cranking and likes it a lot. You must live close to the Olathe BPS, my wife works at that one which makes it hard for me not be in there at least once a week :dazed-7:

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i do have a 6'6" M veritas already for my worm rod and i was just looking at their MH Moderate 7' for a cranking rod and it looks nice and feels nice then another 7'3" MH fast for the jig rod.

its nice having a BPS 3 miles from your house :D

i think its going to be 2 more veritas rods now just to decide on reels. i like my PQ and was thinking about 2 more

I have a like new 7'6'' MH Veritas I'd sell for $80 and would meet you at the Olathe BPS .

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How about considering the Bass Pro Shops Crankin Stick?

For the money, it is an excellent rod and one you can start cranking without paying a fortune.

Match it up with the baitcaster of your choice depending if you want a fast or slow retreive.

As for the line, once upon a time the pros would use mono for the line stretch due to the treble hooks. Today DVD is using flouro in 17 pound test.

Check out the BPS crankin stick. I think you wil be pleasantly surprised and then you can save your pennies and dimes for a G. Loomis cranking rod.

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Make that KVD, not DVD.

Sorry.

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For a crankbait rod, I want a limber tip and a fairly stiff butt section. There are lots of rods, from many different companies that fit this description. Most of them are labeled as Medium. The rod that saw the most crank bait service for me last year was a BPS Extreme 7'4" model. It is several years old. It was originally sold as Woo Davis's pitching stick. For me, it sucked as a pitching rod, because its tip was way too flexible for me.

Now as a crankbait rod, that flexible tip is a good thing. I carry a couple of them all the time. One for square bills and another for various crank baits.

Lots of guys advocate using fiberglass rods for cranking. I've got a couple of then and I'm not a big fan of them, for a variety of reasons. Mostly I don't think my fishing reflexes are so finely honed that I can purposely use a less sensitive rod. When I fish by myself I carry 18 to 22 rods, rigged and ready to go. A fiberglass crank rod hasn't made the cut for a number of years. I have a few pals who fish cranks more than me and they can afford the LOOMIS crank rod and that's what they use. They tell me that a LOOMIS cranking rod will exponentially increase my confidence using crankbaits. I don't know about that. Maybe some year, soon.

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The issue of crankbait rods comes up a bunch on this forum and most other forums. Probably more than any other rod type. Personal preference is huge. There is no BEST rod or reel, just what works for you, your budget, your fishing style and your demands or expectations. Before you buy, experiment as much as you can with as many brands, ratios, and material types until you find what feels good to you. I fish crankbaits more than twice as much as I did 7 to 10 years ago. My rod choices changed during that time too. The one thing I would suggest is rods with a slower more forgiving action and reels with a lower ratio if you fish deep divers alot. Good luck.

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For anyone that is the market for a fairly inexpensive crankbait rod, and live near a BPS, check out the Browning Siliflex rods..............................Al

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I looooove the lamiglass xcel 705glass rod. $90 rod with incredible feel and action for cranks and baits up to about 3/4 ounce. I broke a guide on my dobyns jig rod and picked up my crank rod to finish the day, first cast at one spot lands me a four pounder with that lamiglass. On a half ounce jig! I was amazed and i love that rod for crankbaits, but it was well worth its weight in gold yesterday! Also a very light rod!

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The Veritas are nice rods and a friend of mine uses the one you described for cranking and likes it a lot. You must live close to the Olathe BPS, my wife works at that one which makes it hard for me not be in there at least once a week :dazed-7:

i know how u feel..i am in there more than one time a week. Over the summer there was a period of time i was going in there everyday for probably 2 weeks. you could say they have a lot of my money haha

and yes i do live close to the Olathe BPS

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If you got to this site, http://www.stcroixrods.com/shop/catalog/Freshwater-23-1.html St Croix has their Premier Glass Crankbait rods on clearance. $84 for the 6'6"MMF and $91 for the 7'MMF. But if you decide to check it out, CALL them instead of ordering online to verify availability.

The other option is to buy used. There are plenty of great rods out there available for great prices. I just last week bought a Loomis CBR843 in great shape for just under $130 shipped.

Dave

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7 ft. MH/ Mod works for all my crankion needs. Lipless too! I tried a fast and seemed to pull them loose too much. Moderate is a bit more forgiving, So the fast became my swimbait rig.

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