santacruz Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Ive been having problems getting my shifting working right again since,i put a lower seal kit in my motor.Its a 1989 evinrude 48spl.I was having problems getting the screw that holds your shift rod linkage together back in,but i have moved on from that problem.Got the screw in but now when i move my shift lever, forward is where reverse is and i have nothing where forward should be.When i move it where reverse is the prop locks,but if i move anywhere forward of that it spins free.Anyone please tell me whats wrong,gonna be spring soon and would like to use my boat. Quote
freebie Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 which screw did you have trouble with? the one up top or the one in the side of the gearcase? if you took out the one in the gearcase then you might have missed the shift cradle when you put it back in. with the gearcase off can you get it in both gears? lot of things could be wrong there. Quote
santacruz Posted January 30, 2012 Author Posted January 30, 2012 which screw did you have trouble with? the one up top or the one in the side of the gearcase? if you took out the one in the gearcase then you might have missed the shift cradle when you put it back in. with the gearcase off can you get it in both gears? lot of things could be wrong there. I took the engine cover off all the linkages up there seems to work right both cables move with the gear shifter.One moves for reverse and one moves with foward.You mentioned the shift cradle that needs to be on top of shifter shaft right?and its the screw on the side of gearcase towards front bottom. Quote
freebie Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 I took the engine cover off all the linkages up there seems to work right both cables move with the gear shifter.One moves for reverse and one moves with foward.You mentioned the shift cradle that needs to be on top of shifter shaft right?and its the screw on the side of gearcase towards front bottom. only one cable should move for shifting. one shifts froward and reverse, the other is for throttle. might have put them on backwards Quote
santacruz Posted January 30, 2012 Author Posted January 30, 2012 only one cable should move for shifting. one shifts froward and reverse, the other is for throttle. might have put them on backwards I didnt take the cables off.What you think about what i said with the shift cradle does it need to go on top of shifter shaft?Think that may be my problem. Quote
freebie Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 the cradle is in the gearcase. I'm trying to understand how far you went in taking the case apart. if you took the shaft out of the case then you could have put it together wrong. those gearcases are tough to work on. if you have a repair manual it should show you how things should go in there Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted January 30, 2012 Super User Posted January 30, 2012 Sounds to me like you have the shift lever upside down, the one on the lower right front part of the engine, it should be pointing up. That or the one under the carbs you hook the shift rod to is on backwards. Since you said you had a very hard time getting the screw back in, you may have the aluminum shifer block fliped over, because the screw should not have been hard to install. When you move the shift lever at the console, from neutral to forward and reverse a few inches, you should see one cable move back and fourth, moving the shift lever on the engine in both directions. The other cable should not be moving, it should only start moving once you have gone a few inches with the lever and should only move in one direction, regardless if it's forward or reverse. Quote
freebie Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Sounds to me like you have the shift lever upside down, the one on the lower right front part of the engine, it should be pointing up. That or the one under the carbs you hook the shift rod to is on backwards. Since you said you had a very hard time getting the screw back in, you may have the aluminum shifer block fliped over, because the screw should not have been hard to install. When you move the shift lever at the console, from neutral to forward and reverse a few inches, you should see one cable move back and fourth, moving the shift lever on the engine in both directions. The other cable should not be moving, it should only start moving once you have gone a few inches with the lever and should only move in one direction, regardless if it's forward or reverse. I thought about that too but on that motor they didn't use an aluminum shift block and it doesn't have the linkage that the bigger motors have. kind of hard to get it backwards. the shift block will only go on one way and the screw wont go in period if you could manage to get it on wrong. I'm thinking that he took the shift shaft out of the lower when resealing it and didn't get it line up right when he put it back in. also might not have it adjusted right. if the cables never came off then when going back together he might have screwed the shaft into the cradle too far and it wont move enough to find forward. I can check on the sift shaft proper height tomorrow when I go back to work. that sounds like it's the most likely answer. Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted January 31, 2012 Super User Posted January 31, 2012 I went to BRP's parts site, and looked at the linkage he's dealing with. Looking at his, yes, it's different, the the lever on the shaft should be pointing down instead of up. As for shift lever, it's hard to tell if it can be installed upside down or not. If it works, here's a link but it only gets you to the main index, select the model in the open block, then find the year and then the model and look at the shift linkage. Yes, if he screwed on the rod going into the lower unit, he screwed up and has got to get it back to the proper setting. I would also disconnect my shift cable from the motor,until I got it shifting right at the motor, just to make sure you don't have it wrong. http://epc.brp.com/I...16-7ee71862ecf5 Quote
freebie Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I went to BRP's parts site, and looked at the linkage he's dealing with. Looking at his, yes, it's different, the the lever on the shaft should be pointing down instead of up. As for shift lever, it's hard to tell if it can be installed upside down or not. If it works, here's a link but it only gets you to the main index, select the model in the open block, then find the year and then the model and look at the shift linkage. Yes, if he screwed on the rod going into the lower unit, he screwed up and has got to get it back to the proper setting. I would also disconnect my shift cable from the motor,until I got it shifting right at the motor, just to make sure you don't have it wrong. http://epc.brp.com/I...16-7ee71862ecf5 unfortunately it's hard to tell how things are supposed to go from the parts breakdown. tomorrow when I get to work(have mondays off) I'll see if I can scan the the factory repair manual that shows how it goes together. I'll also make sure I to get the proper shift shat height for it. I thought about disconnecting the cables but on that motor it can be a real pain. they have a stupid pin that goes in from the backside and is a real pita to lign up. almost more than the shift rod end screw. Quote
santacruz Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 I never took any of my cables up on the engine off.Never messed with any of that just the lower unit when i put seals in it.I think i need to get that cradle back on top of my shift shaft.Does this sound like it would fix my problem,the schematic i look at shows the cradle on top of the shift shaft.So pretty much have to take my whole lower unit bearings out again >.< Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted January 31, 2012 Super User Posted January 31, 2012 OH!!!! So, you took the lower unit apart, I didn't realize that, I though you were replacing the lower crank seal. There is no telling what all you might have out of place if you took the LU appart. I hope you know there are several special tools and guages you were suppose to use to set it up before you put it together. The first thing you need to do is check the shift rod length, there is less than a 1/32" leave way on it. Drop the LU and see if it shifts off the motor, if it does, you may just need to adjust the rod, If not, have fun doing it again. At least you can look at it this way, if you didn't get the gears mesh right, you want have to worry about that one any more, you can just buy another one. You probably missed with the shift lever, or the cradle where it goes on the horizontal shaft. Quote
JohnnyBigger Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 Did the shift rod get rotated at all cause that would put it out of adjustment and will cause that Quote
santacruz Posted February 4, 2012 Author Posted February 4, 2012 i think my whole problem is i have to get my shift rod back in the cradle.Dont know how this is gonna work out cause that cradle is very lose on the shift shaft and rotates very easy.If i could get my shift rod out of my engine i could guide it into the cradle. Quote
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