Craiger12 Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 What do you guys think of using InvizX for jerkbait fishing? Other suggestions are welcome, but I'm mainly interested in hearing your experiences with InvizX for jerkbaits. Quote
nwibass Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 What do you guys think of using InvizX for jerkbait fishing? Other suggestions are welcome, but I'm mainly interested in hearing your experiences with InvizX for jerkbaits. Never fished it with jerkbaits but I can tell you its a sinking flouro line and has a little bit of stretch to it therefore being ideal for jerkbaiting, it has more stretch than normal floro but less than mono, making it ideal. Quote
quanjig Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Just my .02, I prefer mono when fishing jb's. Keeps the bait as neutral as possible. I want the bait to suspend as much as possible. Floro too sinky! Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted January 19, 2012 Super User Posted January 19, 2012 Never fished it with jerkbaits but I can tell you its a sinking flouro line and has a little bit of stretch to it therefore being ideal for jerkbaiting, it has more stretch than normal floro but less than mono, making it ideal. Fluorocarbon is typically less than ideal for jerkbaits, in many instances the density of fluorocarbon lines add enough weight that your bait won't suspend, it will sink. Invizx is "normal" fluorocarbon, it's pure resin the same as any other pure fluorocarbon. It has slightly more stretch than some other lines in the same class, which is what aids it's longer term manageability and reduced memory. There are pure fluorocarbons that have a lot more stretch than Invizx and a lot less, I question your definition of what a "normal" fluorocarbon is. When it comes to jerkbaits I much prefer a copoly line like CXX or C21 in an appropriate diameter. I'm not worried as much about the pound test of the line, but the actual diameter; that's what really defines the lines behaviour in terms of lure depth. If I want to hold a Vision 110 in the 18" depth range, I may fish it on a larger diameter line, if I want to gain some depth with a Pointer 78DD, I'll go smaller. I rarely, rarely use fluoro for jerkbaits; most of the pros, and many anglers here, will tell you the exact same thing. Quote
nwibass Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Fluorocarbon is typically less than ideal for jerkbaits, in many instances the density of fluorocarbon lines add enough weight that your bait won't suspend, it will sink. Invizx is "normal" fluorocarbon, it's pure resin the same as any other pure fluorocarbon. It has slightly more stretch than some other lines in the same class, which is what aids it's longer term manageability and reduced memory. There are pure fluorocarbons that have a lot more stretch than Invizx and a lot less, I question your definition of what a "normal" fluorocarbon is. When it comes to jerkbaits I much prefer a copoly line like CXX or C21 in an appropriate diameter. I'm not worried as much about the pound test of the line, but the actual diameter; that's what really defines the lines behaviour in terms of lure depth. If I want to hold a Vision 110 in the 18" depth range, I may fish it on a larger diameter line, if I want to gain some depth with a Pointer 78DD, I'll go smaller. I rarely, rarely use fluoro for jerkbaits; most of the pros, and many anglers here, will tell you the exact same thing. Hooligan im not sure if you have ever fished invisx but its less dense than other floros in its class which gives it its stretch.... being less dense it also makes it less apt to sink. I fish it with jb and it suspender rather well Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted January 19, 2012 Super User Posted January 19, 2012 I think it will work, but I think you've got better options. Me, I think casting distance has a lot to do with jerkbait success. I use 14 lb fireline crystal with a fluorocarbon leader. Leader starts at about 3 feet, and I'll tie and retie until it gets to somewhat less than 2 feet, at which point I'll start over. Most of the time, I'll use 12 or 15 lb fluorocarbon leader material I get in the fly rod section of BPS or Cabelas. I'll use a wide spool spinning reel and a med or med/lt 6 1/2 foot spinning rod. I can go 80 to 100 feet or so without much casting effort with this rig. Farther if you're throwing with the wind. Once you've got your pointer down, (4 feet or so) you leave some slack in your line. The Fireline crystal really stands out against the water and it works like a strike indicator on a fly line. You will see the strike sooner than you will feel it and hook ups are close to 100%. After a number of years experimenting, this is the system I've gotten comfortable with. If you go to the In-fisherman magazine website and research their archives for jerkbait techniques, there are articles there that explain this system much better than I'm doing now. Quote
Packard Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I'm using 12lb Seaguar Senshi this year. I know some pros including KVD use fluoro with jerkbaits but it's not my cup of tea. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted January 19, 2012 Super User Posted January 19, 2012 Hooligan im not sure if you have ever fished invisx but its less dense than other floros in its class which gives it its stretch.... being less dense it also makes it less apt to sink. I fish it with jb and it suspender rather well Oh no you didnt... 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 20, 2012 Super User Posted January 20, 2012 All of the pros at Bassmaster University agreed, monofilament for jerkbaits. I use Sunline Super Natural #12. Quote
KevO Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I agree with Hooligan go with a co-polymer. I throw my jerkbaits on 12 # yo-zuri hybrid, it;s a good all around diameter, if I need to fine tune them I will go up or down as needed. Try it out I think you will be surprised. Quote
Craiger12 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Posted January 20, 2012 Thanks for the help guys. I guess I will be sticking with 8# or 10# CXX. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted January 20, 2012 Super User Posted January 20, 2012 Hooligan im not sure if you have ever fished invisx but its less dense than other floros in its class which gives it its stretch.... being less dense it also makes it less apt to sink. I fish it with jb and it suspender rather well Ok, so... I'll play nice here. Invizx is no less dense than Abrazx, Shooter, Sniper, Tatsu, or XPS. They all have the same relative specific gravity. Such is the nature of fluorocarbon, regardless of the resin used, they are all relative in density; the changes in sectional density are so minor amongst lines of the same diameter that it's almost not worth talking about. Density has absolutely nothing to do with the stretch of the line, nothing. Zero. Zilch. Point of reference for you so that you might understand it: Hard Nylon monofilament is actually one of the lowest stretch lines available to anglers. The problems, however, outweigh the benefits. What's interesting, though, is that hard nylon isn't very dense at all, as a matter of fact, it has lower density, and mass, per section than traditional monofilament roughly half its diameter. Stretch, rather more appropriately, elasticity, comes from the way the line is finished and the intended purpose. Those lines that are meant to be easier handling and have less memory are more elastic than their counterparts, IE: they stretch more. Regardless, nearly all PVDF lines are the same in terms of density. Have I fished Invizx? Not really, I just ordered it in 3,000 yard spools to look neat on the shelf. It's actually ALL that I fished for a period of time. I've been fishing USDM release Seaguar since 1992, which is when it became available. Prior to that, I fished what I could get my hands on internationally, which was very limited. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 20, 2012 Super User Posted January 20, 2012 I just ordered it in 3,000 yard spools to look neat on the shelf. Pffft! Lip service, LOL. I prefer CXX for jerkbaits. 10# works fine, and gives you enough diameter for abrasion insurance. It seems to not drag the bait under, or maess with the action too much. My buddy uses Triple Fish fluoro with his jerkbaits. He has no issues with getting bit, LOL. He believes that in clear water it helps because the fish get a long look at the bait. He won't use a snap for the same reason. I always ask him how hooks fit into that theory, but he just laughs, and catches. 1 Quote
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