BassFishingMachine Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Ok, I ran a search on this bait and alot of people say its a good bait. I just bought one today and went to the local pond to give it a shot but wasn't able to get a bite. I was fishing it with a fast 12 inch retrieve, and then a instant pause, then repeat. But no hits. Can you guys give me some tips on how you fish this bait that produced strikes? Maybe a steady retrieve with no pauses? or a slow retrieve with no pauses? How do you guys fish this bait? Quote
BucketmouthAngler13 Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 I fish mine just below the surface, at about 5". Just fast enough so that it gets it's correct action. Pausing with floating lures doesn't seem to work very well. Quote
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Pausing with floating lures doesn't seem to work very well. I couldn't disagree more with this one. Great twitch bait because it can also "run away" Quote
Chug Bug Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 I'm not sure where you live, but this isn't a great time of the year for shallow crankbaiting for me. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted November 4, 2006 Super User Posted November 4, 2006 By all means, pause it, twitch it, jerk it, rip it, pull it, etc. Do anything you can to break up the slow wide wobble. The more erratic you can make it, the better you'll do with this, or for that matter, any crankbait. Just mix it up. Experiment until you find something that works that day. I'll agree with ChugBug, this is not a time of year that I have any confidence with shallow cranks. But, I'll always have one tied on in the spring. These are also a pretty good choice at either sunrise or sunset during the hot part of the year. Good bait. Don't give up on it just yet. Cheers, GK Quote
Yakfish Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 I'm with ghoti and Chug Bug. Deep runners and suspending cranks have been productive but nothing shallow is attracting any attention around here lately. The Baby 1- is a great bait but like my shallow raps and floaters they'll be in storage until spring. Quote
SBM-RL Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 The minus 1 has a pretty wide wobble and when it gets cold it seems crankbaits with a tighter wobble work better for me Quote
GAMEOVER Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 The minus 1 has a pretty wide wobble and when it gets cold it seems crankbaits with a tighter wobble work better for me That goes for all crankbaits in regards to weather as a rule of thumb. Quote
Gotta Love It Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 I like to rip it... fish it as erratic as possible... Quote
Guest avid Posted November 5, 2006 Posted November 5, 2006 I hate em. I can't make more than a cast or two before the front and rear trebles tangle into each other. I don't have an anger management problem but I stomped on the one I had and smashed it to bits. No anger management problems. I swear Quote
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted November 5, 2006 Posted November 5, 2006 Now THAT would make some great video,lol!! Lookout Lake Fork! Quote
Gotta Love It Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 Now THAT would make some great video,lol!!Lookout Lake Fork! LMAO!!! I will send Avid a 1-minus (to fish at Fork) if you promise to post the video of him stomping it to pieces!!! Quote
BucketmouthAngler13 Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 Dude that would be the greatest. ;D I would pay money to see that. Now, to get back on topic.... LBH: yes, i'm sure that jerking a floating bait then letting it rise can trigger strikes. But if you want suspendsion then you should use suspending lures. Am i correct in saying that suspendsion is better this time of year? Quote
WhiteMike1018 Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 Dude that would be the greatest. ;DI would pay money to see that. Now, to get back on topic.... LBH: yes, i'm sure that jerking a floating bait then letting it rise can trigger strikes. But if you want suspendsion then you should use suspending lures. Am i correct in saying that suspendsion is better this time of year? Not necessarily matt, i went down to my pond hole about a week ago and the water temp was really cold, i found the bass were sitting up in shallows maybe abosorbing some warm water, the sun was beaming on it. My target lure was the Manns 1- i was running it parralel to the bank getting viscous strikes on a baby bass color Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted November 6, 2006 Super User Posted November 6, 2006 Rule of thumb for cranks is, as water gets colder, it clears more, in clearer water, tighter wobbling cranks catch more fish. We don't have the bitter cold water temps yet in Texas and -1's are working, but is that the best choice? Fish don't follow the rules always. There are numerous baits out there that are suspending models that will do the same job as the minus one. I love the minus one after spawn into the summer early when bass are up or on cloudy days when the bass are still up closer in that zone. Matt. Quote
bipr8 Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 Most of my success with -1's is to "wake" them for about 2 feet and then let them pause (5-20seconds). I would say 75% of my fish are caught while the lure is simply sitting there on top with no movement. I guess I use it more of a top water lure than a crank bait. The -1 is great around the edge of pads. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 Manns 1- is a great lure for shallow fish. My retrieve consists of an extremely slow retrieve where the lure stays under the water and I can almost feel each individual wobble. Works for me. BTW Avid, before stomping anymore lures please send them to me and I will take my frustrations out by trying to drown them. ;D (I would have loved to see the mud hole stomp) Someone recommended awhile back to change one of the hooks to a smaller size. Makes sense to me and it should fix the problem. Quote
bassnleo Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 I like to fish the 1 minus just like a spinnerbait. Banging it into stumps, running it beside laydowns etc.. really has worked for me. It's also a great spring bait when fished around dead lilly pad stems or emergent pad stems. Quote
Craw Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 I fish these little cranks all the time. I absolutely love them. I fish them in a variety of different ways but my bread and butter retrieve is slow and steady. One great feature is that they can be fished on heavy line without any adverse affect on their action. I use these baits the most when I'm fishing stained water(upper end of reservoir or back in the creeks). Quote
Brad_Coovert Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Shallow cranking and fall go together like hot dogs and baseball. While the rule of thumb is to use tighter wobble baits in cold water, that is not always the case. Bass do not have thumbs, so they frequently ignore the rule of thumb. A wide wobble bait has worked well for me on a few occasions this time of year. Basically, you just gotta fish a bait that runs at the depth the fish are. Right now, your bait may be too shallow. Other days, it might be the ticket. At the present time, I'm fishing various crankbaits that dive from 1' down to about 8'. I'm fishing in water with wood or weeds from 1' to 20'. The deep water has standing timber with suspended fish at 10' or less. In fact, I just won our club classic on cranks this past Sunday in shallow wood. Keep pluggin and good luck! Brad Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted November 8, 2006 Super User Posted November 8, 2006 I fish it with a steady retreive and like a jerkbait. Both ways work, I just let the fish tell me what they want. Quote
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