livewire84 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Ultimately the store is setting the price to meet their specific margin. When I am in BPS or Cabelas etc. I always see the higher price LC and Jackal lures next to cheaper SK and Bomber lures. Why? To merchandise against each other and trick consumers into thinking that one premium lure is better than a handful of the other. I don't see an oil price jump making a large enough impact to affect the price either. How many plastic lures do you think you could make out of a 55g drum?
Packard Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I always see the higher price LC and Jackal lures next to cheaper SK and Bomber lures. Why? To merchandise against each other and trick consumers into thinking that one premium lure is better than a handful of the other. Not true. BPS isn't trying to get people to buy LC over SK. BPS has a strong relationship with SK and gets exclusive products.
loodkop Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 You guys should try living in South Africa for a while. We can't buy South African because there are no SA manufacturers. This means I either have to import my own without seeing or handling it and risk losing it to an inefficient postal service or pay prices inflated by a series of middlemen. The local tackle store has less bass equipment and lures than I have seen on the showing off/ re stocking threads. It currently has about 50 Rapalas 15 Normans and 3 red eye shads on the shelves. I have never even seen an LC or Megabass lure and thought Strike King red eye shads were expensive lures. As to the pricing of lures everything here is an import. Nothing is cheap. Buying or not buying any lure is a personal choice and I believe it comes down to confidence. I fish to win and if I believe one lure would give me a couple more bites per day that is what I will be using. Enjoy the luxury of living in the home of bass and occasionally spare thought for those less privileged.
NCbassmaster4Life Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 Enjoy the luxury of living in the home of bass and occasionally spare thought for those less privileged. We do first off, second this is about AMERICA not south africa, no offense just say the pricing in the U.S. not anywhere else.
Super User Lund Explorer Posted January 9, 2012 Super User Posted January 9, 2012 So much for inflation being any part of the problem! My take on the cost of this sport is that it's a hobby. With any hobby, a person should fund it with disposable income which becomes larger as the person ages. When your house is paid for, when the kids grow up and move out, or when Uncle Harry dies and leaves you a small fortune, then there will be enough to spend on the high dollar goodies. Until then, life is going to be a whole lot easier if you accept living within your means and not waste the energy it takes to *** those folks that can already afford those things you think you need the most. I'm much more impressed with the guy that gets the most out of what he has, than with the guy that has everything and thinks that somehow makes him better. 2
River Rat316 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I don't see an oil price jump making a large enough impact to affect the price either. How many plastic lures do you think you could make out of a 55g drum? When it comes to soft plastics the price of plastisol has nearly doubled in the last 5 years so yes it makes a difference. You guys also need to keep in mind that when you are buying a Japanese lure that there has been alot of companies that have had their hands in the profits. The Manufacturer, the importer, the distributor, and the store, each needs to make a profit to stay in business. Every business needs to turn a profit or they will not be around for long. 1
Super User J Francho Posted January 9, 2012 Super User Posted January 9, 2012 Wow, people mark up their services and goods for a profit? So un-American, LOL.
NoBassPro Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Says who? My brother spends at least few hundred a year on fishing gears, but he goes out less than ten times a year. Money has nothing to do with this... I was being sarcastic. I have nothing against the lures or high dollar rods, it just seems the newest, latest, greatest and most expensive usually generate the most discussion, although I'm certain they remain a fairly small percentage of what people actually use. There's at least one guy I know who posts on a different message board, always talking about how you need "x" rod or "y" reel. Yet when I see him fishing he's using an ugly stik rod with a $20 spinning reel.
Pete-K Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 One thing most are over looking is our Dollar is worth way less then the Yen now. So we pay more for that also. One hook company has to go up 40% on there hooks a couple of weeks ago just because of that alone. Same with plastic baits it take more of our green to buy them, then Oil is up delivery is up, everything is up other than what my money makes laying in a bank. So I would rather spend it and throw it between the West and East Bank of the Tn river..
Hyrule Bass Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Like I said if you can afford to throw those things and lose em then have at it but I can't do it. this is kind of how i feel about high dollar rods, if you want to spend that money on a rod with minimal differences compared to my ugly stik then have at it. i could do it, but will not do it, cant justify it.
Vinny Chase Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Be patient, buy your gear on sale. Bargain cave has saved me thousands of dollars.
tholmes Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Bargain cave has saved me thousands of dollars. This^ I also buy quite a few crankbaits used. Both in the Flea Market forum and locally at yard sales. Sometimes you can get them for pennies on the dollar. Tom 1
NCbassmaster4Life Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 Still at the end of a day of fishing you have to be happy reguardless of money spent
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 9, 2012 Super User Posted January 9, 2012 These threads always basicly degrade into "your an idiot for buying $15 baits" or "or no, YOUR an idiot for NOT buying high end stuff"......I'll jump in....how about this.....Your all idiots. Who cares, if guy A buys a LC and catches fish, and guy B buys a $5 bomber and catches fish.........both parties happy. The kid asked why lure prices went up, and right to the $15 vs $5 lure nonsense we go. 2
Super User J Francho Posted January 9, 2012 Super User Posted January 9, 2012 These threads always basicly degrade into "your an idiot for buying $15 baits" or "or no, YOUR an idiot for NOT buying high end stuff"......I'll jump in....how about this.....Your all idiots. Who cares, if guy A buys a LC and catches fish, and guy B buys a $5 bomber and catches fish.........both parties happy. The kid asked why lure prices went up, and right to the $15 vs $5 lure nonsense we go. And you haven't even seen the posts I've deleted, LOL. 1
Maico1 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 These threads always basicly degrade into "your an idiot for buying $15 baits" or "or no, YOUR an idiot for NOT buying high end stuff"......I'll jump in....how about this.....Your all idiots. Who cares, if guy A buys a LC and catches fish, and guy B buys a $5 bomber and catches fish.........both parties happy. The kid asked why lure prices went up, and right to the $15 vs $5 lure nonsense we go. I am getting to this topic late but this post is very well said.........
Vinny Chase Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Still at the end of a day of fishing you have to be happy reguardless of money spent Exactly. I don't want to continue off the original topic, but for most of us, competitive fishing isnt going to be a dependable source of income, so it really comes down to what makes you happy. For me, I buy used LC's and/or wait for them to go on sale, because I trust in their product and I believe they will catch fish for me = fishing happiness. For others, the bombers, normans, and bandits, are all they need to go out and have a good time on the water. I am not a lure collector, but that can also bring someone happiness. There are many reasons for buying a certain lure, and to each their own! 1
Captain Obvious Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I guess I'm an idiot because I'm making the switch to fishing only my own tackle or that of other small tackle makers. BTW I also plan to start making my own rods. Yes making your own tackle is a little more expensive at the start but the money saved over the long run is worth and in my opinion a superior product. So my advice is that if you have a major problem with tackle prices start making your own. Another thing I'd like to point out is that the old tackle monkey can also make your tackle bill a little higher than it should be. I mean if your anything like me you have more than a few lures that your most likely never going to use. 1
Kevinator1 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I have way too many lures, japanese etc., but at our local tournaments over the last few years I have placed in the money over and over on a $1.59 lure that I won't mention here. It is as automatic as it gets and my partner just shakes his head every time I use it. I out fish his drop shot with it. I do use my more expensive baits for the big ones but my little cheap secret gets numbers by the boat loads.
Super User senile1 Posted January 9, 2012 Super User Posted January 9, 2012 We do first off, second this is about AMERICA not south africa, no offense just say the pricing in the U.S. not anywhere else. Firstly, you didn't indicate in your original post that this thread was only about America (the United States in particular, I assume, since we aren't the only country on the North and South American continents). Secondly, it can be a good thing for us to listen to the point of view of people from around the world. Carry on. 1
NCbassmaster4Life Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 These threads always basicly degrade into "your an idiot for buying $15 baits" or "or no, YOUR an idiot for NOT buying high end stuff"......I'll jump in....how about this.....Your all idiots. Who cares, if guy A buys a LC and catches fish, and guy B buys a $5 bomber and catches fish.........both parties happy. The kid asked why lure prices went up, and right to the $15 vs $5 lure nonsense we go. No one on this website is an idiot, and I take that into offense...I fight for your right to fish and mine and all of us everyday so ...please be careful for the word you choose. Second, this has turned into a debate and I left it at that saying: Still at the end of the day fishing we are still happy, at least hopefully most of us..we all have the right of our opinion but degrading someone is a selfish act. I appreciate everyones response and im sorry if I offended anyone with my opinion or say in the matter. You know they say in the military there are facts,lies, and then there is the truth so you choose.
NCbassmaster4Life Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 Firstly, you didn't indicate in your original post that this thread was only about America (the United States in particular, I assume, since we aren't the only country on the North and South American continents). Secondly, it can be a good thing for us to listen to the point of view of people from around the world. Carry on. You have a point but if I wanted to know about international lure prices I do believe I would have posted this topic in that category and you def don't tell me to carry on lmao!
Super User J Francho Posted January 9, 2012 Super User Posted January 9, 2012 Well, this has run it's course. 1
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