Super User Deleted account Posted January 12, 2012 Super User Posted January 12, 2012 Umbrellas = lots of fish + 0 fun. They are a royal PITA, but they catch when nothing else will. Quote
CJ Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 I don't see the big deal. It is a great lure but it's not going to win every tournament. Its not an automatic monster bag because you are fishing it. Matter of fact, my last outing a jerkbait was the ticket. Should it be banned? Quote
weezy109 Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 I don't see the big deal. It is a great lure but it's not going to win every tournament. Its not an automatic monster bag because you are fishing it. Matter of fact, my last outing a jerkbait was the ticket. Should it be banned? It aint a lure its 5 lures, that's the big deal. I have said that multiple times but guys keep glossing over it asking what the big deal is. That's it in a nutshell. Multiple lures on one rod. This thing will work wonders on schooling fish i'd wager. Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted January 12, 2012 Super User Posted January 12, 2012 How sporting is it for every FLW angler to be using the same jig/trailer. That would be just as boring. No skill with that either in comparison. If they aren't throwing them were fish are the results are the same. Ha I like it !!! I still want to see someone skip it under a dock though...would that be boring?...lol Quote
Super User slonezp Posted January 12, 2012 Super User Posted January 12, 2012 How about this weezy109? http://youtu.be/TyftJByLORE Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted January 12, 2012 Super User Posted January 12, 2012 How about this weezy109? Ha! Who knew? TA DA!!! Is universal. Loved it though. Quote
weezy109 Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 How about this weezy109? Now there's a guy who over thought the school mimic deal! Quote
CJ Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 It aint a lure its 5 lures, that's the big deal. I have said that multiple times but guys keep glossing over it asking what the big deal is. That's it in a nutshell. Multiple lures on one rod. This thing will work wonders on schooling fish i'd wager. You're right it does work wonders and they don't have to be schooling. But the one I've been throwing has 6 lures on it! And this is bad? How? Wait a minute.......it fools the fish into biting something that is not real!!!! Now I get it! Quote
weezy109 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 You're right it does work wonders and they don't have to be schooling. But the one I've been throwing has 6 lures on it! And this is bad? How? Wait a minute.......it fools the fish into biting something that is not real!!!! Now I get it! Considering Ky only allows 3 hooks on this rig, if you get caught throwing it you will see why its bad haha. But i was referring to tournament fishing which has banned methods like trolling and fishing with multiple rods, etc. Quote
CJ Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Considering Ky only allows 3 hooks on this rig, if you get caught throwing it you will see why its bad haha. But i was referring to tournament fishing which has banned methods like trolling and fishing with multiple rods, etc. You might want to check your source of info. Tennessee only allows 3. Ky. doesn't have a hook limit. Quote
weezy109 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 You might want to check your source of info. Tennessee only allows 3. Ky. doesn't have a hook limit. You are correct, i fish Tennessee alot tho so it still applicable to me. Quote
Caver Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 LOL. This lure is for dopes. If your going to take all the skill out of fishing why not just use nets and call it a day. Catch more fish and no hooks! Quote
Super User slonezp Posted January 13, 2012 Super User Posted January 13, 2012 LOL. This lure is for dopes. If your going to take all the skill out of fishing why not just use nets and call it a day. Catch more fish and no hooks! Great first post Quote
weezy109 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Great first post Man that smiley really needs to find a dentist Quote
StevO Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 All this negativity has me thinking none of you like to fish just try it and put it away like we do with all the stuff we end up buying or try it and learn to master it, if you don't lose it first. I don't have downscan,sidescan or even brainscan, thats why I'm not going to throw the $25 one I got. I'm still waiting for the bulk pack of 10 that I got for 40 bucks so that I can experiment with. It's obvious this is a consumer driven product,otherwise it would only cost 5 bucks If you take a good look at it anyone could determine that it's about 50 cents worth of wire and tin (like pizza an average $2 of bread,sauce,and ingredients...but you can sell it from $10-$20) When I get my pack of 10 I'll rig them all and that will be all I take to the lake that day,if the fish are on then it should kickask if they are off then this thing is supposed to turn them on when nothing else will will report back Quote
weezy109 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Just troll it. Cover more water and don't even have to bother casting! Win Win! Quote
Caver Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Better yet troll it with 2 poles! 10 baits! Quote
StevO Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Our lake record was caught trolling dec of 2005 i think was with a dd22 all the shops around here started to sell them for 8 to 10 bucks Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted January 13, 2012 Super User Posted January 13, 2012 Here in Va. I see these used all the time on the lake I fish. They are primarily used for stripers with people on larger boats that just troll around all day. After seeing the rig in person I do not think I would want something like that thing on the end of my rod, it is already hard enough working one crank bait all day I just cant imagine what my arms would feel like if I had to fish that thing all day. To me it is what it is and people are going to use it no matter what anyone says about it. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted January 13, 2012 Super User Posted January 13, 2012 All this negativity has me thinking none of you like to fish just try it and put it away like we do with all the stuff we end up buying or try it and learn to master it, if you don't lose it first. I don't have downscan,sidescan or even brainscan, thats why I'm not going to throw the $25 one I got. I'm still waiting for the bulk pack of 10 that I got for 40 bucks so that I can experiment with. It's obvious this is a consumer driven product,otherwise it would only cost 5 bucks If you take a good look at it anyone could determine that it's about 50 cents worth of wire and tin (like pizza an average $2 of bread,sauce,and ingredients...but you can sell it from $10-$20) When I get my pack of 10 I'll rig them all and that will be all I take to the lake that day,if the fish are on then it should kickask if they are off then this thing is supposed to turn them on when nothing else will will report back They are just clinging to their guns and religion, this thing challenges the dogma, so it must be evil. Its cheating, it makes it too easy, it takes the sport out of it, it must be banned, etc etc..... Quote
Caver Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 What do guns and religion have to do with fishing a lure???? I like to shoot bass with my shotgun when they surface whilst saying a Hail Mary as much as the next guy but I think this is a little off topic. Quote
Super User Sam Posted January 14, 2012 Super User Posted January 14, 2012 Gentlemen, great discussion. The Alabama rig is under study in a number of states and later this year we will be hearing from states that now allow the rig to either continue to use it or limit the number of hooks on any one presentation. I would venture that B.A.S.S. and the FLW are also waiting for the results of the Alabama rig and then make a decision if it will be legal in any of their future tournaments. My friend caught three bass at one time on the Alabama rig on Lake Anna without any bait fish in the area. He lucked out and hit a school of bass. He has not caught anything since then on the rig. He will be throwing it in our club and B.A.S.S. Region 3 tournaments this year and I am very interested to learn of his success. I rigged up an Alabama rig and it is heavy. You don't seem to cast it but "lob" it. My finger hurt from the line and after 15 minutes I was getting tired. Weezy, your comment above sparks interest in the use of the rig. If what you say is correct than we may see the rig banned by more states and the two bass angler organizations. Excellent points that many have not considered. Time will tell. In the meantime, throw that sucker and let us know how you do. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted January 14, 2012 Super User Posted January 14, 2012 Hey folks, the Alabama rig ain't nothin' new. It's just a version of an umbrella rig that can be cast. Forty years ago I trolled umbrella rigs for striped bass. There were a variety of types. Some had four arms, some had six arms. Some arms had two loops on them others three. They had a heavy lead cylinder at the center, but to fish it right you needed to use a large diameter, narrow spool reel and a stiff rod with roller guides. To get it down, monel wire line was the "line" of choice. I used a four arm umbrella that had three loops on each arm and one in the center for a total of thirteen baits. Willow leaf spinners and hooks (I forget the name) with a double bend and surgical tubing on each of the hooks. The bend in the hooks made the tube worms spin. I just remembered the name of the hooks, limerick. I was meat fishing for stripers, and they worked great. While it was "fun" putting a lot of bass in the boat, there is no way on earth it could be called sportfishing. I've caught up to seven stripers at one time. They fought each other more than they fought the fisherman. It was like winching in a humongous chatterbait. Regs and rules? I'll leave that to the powers that be. The great attraction of fishing is that we can all do it our way, provided it's legal. I will add a couple of more thoughts. Dynamite works great too, provided you can find the fish. I've seen a lot of "discussion", pro and con. But, in my humble opinion, using the Alabama (umbrella) rig is not sportfishing, as I understand its meaning. And that's all I've got to say about that. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted January 14, 2012 Super User Posted January 14, 2012 My only thoughts on the rig are these: You generally have to be in the right situation to be catching fish on it, there will be the odd person that lucks out, but overall, it's not a lure you're going to throw all the time every time. It's a fun way to fish when you're on fish that are actively chasing bait; in the grand scheme, it's no different than a double fluke, it's only slightly expanded. If you think it's not a legit way to fish, then don't fish it; particularly if it happens to be a tournament that I am fishing against you, by all means don't fish it. Quote
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