Hook for punching creatures through the thick stuff?

[Skeet22]

I am gathering up some components to make me a few punching rigs.Plan on using 1 1/4 tungsten Danny Brauer weight pegged. I will be using mainly zoom ultravibe speed craws. I am uncertain on the hook to use though. Should I use an un exposed EWG worm hook or one of the Gammy flipping hooks exposed? It seems that an exposed hook would get hung up in the grass easily but from all my research it seems to be the preferred hook to use. ???

[DINK WHISPERER]

I use only Gamakatsu EWG hooks for this. I hear nothing but good things about the Denny B. straight shank flippin' hooks though!

[Skeet22]

Yeah i guess it is just hard for me to understand how you work a bait through heavy cover with an exposed hook :-/

[fishfordollars]

4/0 or 5/0 Mustad EWG hook and try it without pegging the weight. When you punch the grass let the weight go, put a little tension on the line and it will rip the lure through. They cannot stand it. I seldom peg the weight when fishing the matted grass, in fact I never do.

[Willzx225]

Are you sure they are saying to have it exposed and not Texposed? If you ask me, it doesn't make sense to have it exposed to punch grass.  :-?  I use a 5/0 Owner Wide Gap Plus when I punch

[Skeet22]

Guess it will be trial and error. The grass is so thick in certain spots of my lake I have never attempted to punch through it. I usually fish the thinner areas and pockets which produce fish just not the lunkers that I am after. Last weekend I pulled up at the dock and was shooting the breeze with a fellow angler, I thought I had did something catching one 5lb and a few 2's. He had 18 Bass with 8 of them being over 6lbs and the rest were solid 3 and 4 lbs. He released them by the launch right there in front of me. He was nice enough to let me in on where and what he was fishing which was right in the thickest part of the lake with a pegged 1 1/4 TT t rigged on a ultravibe speed craw (saphirre). He explained that he had to toss the lure 30 ft in the air and let if fall into the cover to reach bottom and after that just shake and hold on!! I have never seen a stringer like this guy put together, it would have impressed any Pro out there, easily a 30# stringer. This lake is full of lunkers, I just have to figure out exactly how to get to them...

[Skeet22]

Are you sure they are saying to have it exposed and not Texposed? If you ask me, it doesn't make sense to have it exposed to punch grass. :-? I use a 5/0 Owner Wide Gap Plus when I punch

Can you texpose a straight shank flipping hook? Basically all of your jigs are exposed right with the exception of maybe a weed gaurd.

[bmadd]

Texpose the bait on a straight shank or ewg hook. It's basically the same on a straight shank.

[RoLo]

I don't use a separate hook and sinker in dense cover.

For mat-punching I use a heavy, spire-nosed jig with a screw-coil retainer,

then thread on a streamlined plastic with few appendages.

It's the surest way to get the lure in harm's way.

Roger

[Catt]

I use straight shank round bend hooks for all lures up to the thickness of a 6 Senko and then it's an offset round bend.

I do not texpose anything ever, never seen the advantage of it

I've not pegged a bullet weight in 8 or 10 years

[Primus]

In my opinion if you are using a heavy action rod with braided line there is no need to texpose the hook, with a good hookset it will easily rip through. In the past I've used heavy wire Gama EWG  hooks, recently tried the Youvella Straight Shank with the built in bait keeper and so far I've been very impressed.

[Texas10Man]

I tried all the Youvella hooks and every one rusted after half a day of use. Did I get some bad hooks?

[Bass Junkie]

Guess it will be trial and error. The grass is so thick in certain spots of my lake I have never attempted to punch through it. I usually fish the thinner areas and pockets which produce fish just not the lunkers that I am after. Last weekend I pulled up at the dock and was shooting the breeze with a fellow angler, I thought I had did something catching one 5lb and a few 2's. He had 18 Bass with 8 of them being over 6lbs and the rest were solid 3 and 4 lbs. He released them by the launch right there in front of me. He was nice enough to let me in on where and what he was fishing which was right in the thickest part of the lake with a pegged 1 1/4 TT t rigged on a ultravibe speed craw (sapphire). He explained that he had to toss the lure 30 ft in the air and let if fall into the cover to reach bottom and after that just shake and hold on!! I have never seen a stringer like this guy put together, it would have impressed any Pro out there, easily a 30# stringer. This lake is full of lunkers, I just have to figure out exactly how to get to them...

Sounds like an interesting strategy : Actually, it sounds like it would work pretty well if it didn't spook the fish. An ounce and a quarter of led slammin' the water after fallin' thirty feet would make an interesting noise

[J Francho]

Try 6/0 Gam. octopus  or Owner SSW hooks.  Use a snell knot.

http://www.burniehaney.com/blank.html

[ptomacbass]

Try 6/0 Gam. octopus or Owner SSW hooks. Use a snell knot.

http://www.burniehaney.com/blank.html

The problem with that hook is that the hook doesn't kick up when it is snelled.

[Maico1]

Check out Anatomy of a Punch Rig at Monster Fishing....Sorry I can not hot link for it just keeps showing spam.com

[Bryant.]

I snell a Pay Check Baits punch hook. Its the same as the old reaction innovation BMF hook. I peg the 1 1/2 oz weight just because some of the stuff I fish is so thick there is no other way to get it though. This is the best combination I have found so far for punching.

[J Francho]

Try 6/0 Gam. octopus or Owner SSW hooks. Use a snell knot.

http://www.burniehaney.com/blank.html

The problem with that hook is that the hook doesn't kick up when it is snelled.

Problem?  You obviously haven't tried it, LOL.  Try it before pretending you know what you're talking about.  Seriously.

[ptomacbass]

I have tried it, and it does work, but it's not the best in the heavy grass I fish.

[J Francho]

The best is the BMF/Paycheck Baits hook.  This is the next best thing.  I don't understand what you mean by the hook doesn't "kick up."  You must be tying it wrong.  When pegged, it sits upright, just like a jig.

:

[Catt]

There is no best hook period, there are personal favorites

There is no need to tie a Snell knot but you can if you want to

There is no need for the hook kick up

Oh by the way Roger (RoLo), Jack (fishfordollars) and I have been Flippn', Pitchin', & Punchin' while y'all were all in diapers.

[ptomacbass]

The Gamakatsu Octopus is a good hook, but why it, when you can buy the Punch Hook which is better?

[J Francho]

Oh by the way Roger (RoLo), Jack (fishfordollars) and I have been Flippn', Pitchin', & Punchin' while y'all were all in diapers.

That may be true, though I am not a child, and at 37 years old, don't appreciate the snotty diaper comments. Nor do I as someone that has fished for bass for 30 years appreciate being lumped in with a know it all internet fisherman that isn't old enough to drive a car, LOL. I love you Catt, but give me a break man. I'll still be punching when you are in diapers.

[J Francho]

The Gamakatsu Octopus is a good hook, but why it, when you can buy the Punch Hook which is better?

the BMF hook was NOT available all this spring and early summer.  The paycheck Hooks aren't out yet.

[ptomacbass]

The Gamakatsu Octopus is a good hook, but why it, when you can buy the Punch Hook which is better?

the BMF hook was NOT available all this spring and early summer. The paycheck Hooks aren't out yet.

True, the BMF hooks were not available this spring, but the Paycheck Hooks have been available for a while.  I'm sorry though, I didn't mean to sound rude when I said that there was a problem with the hook, it's just that that is the only thing I don't like about the hook.  If you like it, then use it.  I don't know how much of a difference the hook kicking up makes, but it just gives me confidence