P-Line C21

[Fat-G]

Anyone using it? Thoughts?

From P-Line:

The ultimate goal of P-Line’s engineers was to create a line that bridged the gap between two of their most popular lines - CX-Premium and CXX-Xtra Strong, while maintaining a great price point.

They certainly have the price point right - $5 for a 300 yd. spool.

[BASSclary]

It appears they wanted to create a line that's in between always breaking(CX) and will never break, and has a boat load of memory(CXX).

Seems like it would be just like a premium mono.

[Hooligan]

It appears they wanted to create a line that's in between always breaking(CX) and will never break, and has a boat load of memory(CXX).

Seems like it would be just like a premium mono.

It's a lot different behaviour than Mono, though. It's a lot more supple than CXX and yet retains so much of that strength.It's also got less stretch than the very best of mono lines. I'm currently fishing it in 10 and 8 on a finesse jig rod and a jerkbait rig. I like it in cold water, for sure, it doesn't have the behaviour of a lot of lines that, in cold, want to turn into a slinky. It casts quite well, and has good diameters. The other two lines that I'm fishing are the new XPS Signature Mono and the Seaguar Shinsei. Shinsei has so far lived up to everything Seguar says. It's very small, very limp and quite low stretch for mono. It does have some memory, but I think that's the trade-off for getting the abrasion resistance and tensile strength. So far, the XPS signature is much like the Trilene XT from years past, only a little more supple. I'm reserving further comment on it as I've only fished it four times so far and haven't had the chance to really get after it on a jerkbait rod.

[Fat-G]

It's a lot different behaviour than Mono, though. It's a lot more supple than CXX and yet retains so much of that strength.It's also got less stretch than the very best of mono lines. I'm currently fishing it in 10 and 8 on a finesse jig rod and a jerkbait rig. I like it in cold water, for sure, it doesn't have the behaviour of a lot of lines that, in cold, want to turn into a slinky. It casts quite well, and has good diameters. The other two lines that I'm fishing are the new XPS Signature Mono and the Seaguar Shinsei. Shinsei has so far lived up to everything Seguar says. It's very small, very limp and quite low stretch for mono. It does have some memory, but I think that's the trade-off for getting the abrasion resistance and tensile strength. So far, the XPS signature is much like the Trilene XT from years past, only a little more supple. I'm reserving further comment on it as I've only fished it four times so far and haven't had the chance to really get after it on a jerkbait rod.

Very good to hear. I think I'll stock up on a couple spools of the bigger size for you-know-what.

[deep]

It's a lot different behaviour than Mono, though. It's a lot more supple than CXX and yet retains so much of that strength.It's also got less stretch than the very best of mono lines. I'm currently fishing it in 10 and 8 on a finesse jig rod and a jerkbait rig. I like it in cold water, for sure, it doesn't have the behaviour of a lot of lines that, in cold, want to turn into a slinky. It casts quite well, and has good diameters. The other two lines that I'm fishing are the new XPS Signature Mono and the Seaguar Shinsei. Shinsei has so far lived up to everything Seguar says. It's very small, very limp and quite low stretch for mono. It does have some memory, but I think that's the trade-off for getting the abrasion resistance and tensile strength. So far, the XPS signature is much like the Trilene XT from years past, only a little more supple. I'm reserving further comment on it as I've only fished it four times so far and haven't had the chance to really get after it on a jerkbait rod.

Three questions about the C21:

Does it float or sink?

What do you think of the abrasion resistance (in rocks) compared to other copolys?

What do you think of the knot strength?

Thanks.

[Hooligan]

Knot Strength- VERY high knot strength resultant of the extremely high tensile strength when compared to other copolymer lines.

I believe it floats, I used it briefly in October on the Rock for some Sammy and PopMax action and it handled that application very well.

abrasion resistance is better than average to very good. I think the only more abrasion resistant line in the same class would probably be CXX.

[deep]

Knot Strength- VERY high knot strength resultant of the extremely high tensile strength when compared to other copolymer lines.

I believe it floats, I used it briefly in October on the Rock for some Sammy and PopMax action and it handled that application very well.

abrasion resistance is better than average to very good. I think the only more abrasion resistant line in the same class would probably be CXX.

Great. Thanks once again.

[BASSclary]

It's a lot different behaviour than Mono, though. It's a lot more supple than CXX and yet retains so much of that strength.It's also got less stretch than the very best of mono lines. I'm currently fishing it in 10 and 8 on a finesse jig rod and a jerkbait rig. I like it in cold water, for sure, it doesn't have the behaviour of a lot of lines that, in cold, want to turn into a slinky. It casts quite well, and has good diameters. The other two lines that I'm fishing are the new XPS Signature Mono and the Seaguar Shinsei. Shinsei has so far lived up to everything Seguar says. It's very small, very limp and quite low stretch for mono. It does have some memory, but I think that's the trade-off for getting the abrasion resistance and tensile strength. So far, the XPS signature is much like the Trilene XT from years past, only a little more supple. I'm reserving further comment on it as I've only fished it four times so far and haven't had the chance to really get after it on a jerkbait rod.

Internet sarcasm, LOL. Personal Foul on BC, lack of enough LOL's and smileys. I was just saying the above in my low opinion of P-Line thus far.

I'm glad to hear they made a quality line though. From your review, what would you suggest as the best primary use for it due to it's given characteristics? How would you compare this line to Sufix Seige or Yo-Zuri hybrid? Sensitivity, memory, etc?

[Fat-G]

Maybe C21 represents the 2 x's in CXX and the 1 x in CX, equating to C21.

Makes sense to me.

[tomustang]

I have no reason to change, I don't have the breakage problems with CX

[BasskingKeith]

P-line is garbage.

[grimlin]

Hooligan,you have it on a spinning set up or Baitcaster?

Absolutely love P-line CXX 6# test on my spinning set up....I'll be sticking with that when fishing season starts back up here again.

[Craiger12]

P-line is garbage.

That is a woefully broad and general statement that many will disagree with.

[BasskingKeith]

That is a woefully broad and general statement that many will disagree with.

LOL perhaps. Bought it once, a copolymer line from P-Line. Set the hook, line breaks. Repeat. Frustrated. The End.

[Hooligan]

Hooligan,you have it on a spinning set up or Baitcaster?

Absolutely love P-line CXX 6# test on my spinning set up....I'll be sticking with that when fishing season starts back up here again.

I have one spinning reel with 8lb on it, the remaining rods spooled with it are casting, of those I'm only using one or two consistently right now.

[grimlin]

I have one spinning reel with 8lb on it, the remaining rods spooled with it are casting, of those I'm only using one or two consistently right now.

That's why i asked, was wondering if it was manageable on a spinning set up. Thanks

[shootnfan_1911]

thanks for tipping me off to this stuff. new to the forum here, but been fishing for many years. typically i've always used trilene xl and trilene big game for any of my bait casters or spinning rigs, mainly in 6lb-12lb sizes. i'd like to pick up some of this for a try too!

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

thanks for tipping me off to this stuff. new to the forum here, but been fishing for many years. typically i've always used trilene xl and trilene big game for any of my bait casters or spinning rigs, mainly in 6lb-12lb sizes. i'd like to pick up some of this for a try too!

I've always used Big Game on moving baits too.

However, this season I think I'm going to look for a changeup.

I'm OK with some stretch but the big game stretches A BUNCH. So I'll be looking for a mono, not too expensive, not a bunch of stretch, abrasion resistant, and strong for the diameter.

I may just start using Y/Z hybrid for this application, in 10lb test.

[Bluebasser86]

LOL perhaps. Bought it once, a copolymer line from P-Line. Set the hook, line breaks. Repeat. Frustrated. The End.

In my experience a break off on a hookset with new line is caused by a poorly tied knot or using the wrong type of knot. I had a problem with P-line flouroclear breaking on the hookset and even though it may not be a true flouro, if not properly lubricated it will break on the hookset from the friction caused while tightening the knot. My solution was to make sure to tighten the knot under water or while holding it inside my mouth and tightening with steady pressure. No more problems with hookset break offs and P-line is one of the strongest lines I have ever used. I'm excited to try this new line as it sounds to have several qualities you expect in a good fishing line.

[BasskingKeith]

In my experience a break off on a hookset with new line is caused by a poorly tied knot or using the wrong type of knot. I had a problem with P-line flouroclear breaking on the hookset and even though it may not be a true flouro, if not properly lubricated it will break on the hookset from the friction caused while tightening the knot. My solution was to make sure to tighten the knot under water or while holding it inside my mouth and tightening with steady pressure. No more problems with hookset break offs and P-line is one of the strongest lines I have ever used. I'm excited to try this new line as it sounds to have several qualities you expect in a good fishing line.

I tied a lubed up Palomar at the time. Now I only use the single Palomar for mono. I am thinking is was the knot; maybe it wasn't compatible, since I've been tying the same Palomar for years. No problems with Mono, nor braid, although I tie a double Palomar with braid now, due to slippage.