Rod For Crankin', And Jigs?

[Missouribassman95]

I'm looking for a rod that is sensative, but has enough backbone to pull pass out of weeds, bushes, ect. I'll be mainly fishing jigs, and maybe some cranking with this rod. I was looking at The Berkley Lightning Shock Series Rod, the BPS Tourney Special Premium Graphite rods, and/or St. Croix Mojo Bass rods. I'm just wondering which rod you guys would suggest.

Thanks,

[msolorio]

whats your price range? i really like the abu veritas for jigs. id go with the 7'3" mh, good all around rod. if your lookin to spend more go with an irod irg744c or a cashion 7'3" md. hvy. cashion rods are AMAZING! SO ARE iRODS AS WELL AS THE VERITAS RODS.

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

I would say the Falcon Lowrider series. I haven't bought any in a while, but when I looked recently they have gone up quite a bit.

I have a 7'MH Lowrider, that would make an OK jig rod, but I use it for big crankbaits

[BasskingKeith]

St.Croix "Mojo" rods are technique specific, so you should be able to find one to match your needs. I'd get one of those, especially since they aren't too pricey.

[Bluebasser86]

That's a tough one. What I look for in a jig rod and what I look for in a cranking rod are two way different things except I want them to be at least 7'. I would probably go with the 7' M/F St. Croix Mojo if I was in the same boat. I have that exact rod and use it mainly for plastics and small jigs but it also fishes a rattle trap or flutter spoon pretty well so it would probably work for what you're wanting.

[Reel_Kaotic]

That's a tough one. What I look for in a jig rod and what I look for in a cranking rod are two way different things except I want them to be at least 7'. I would probably go with the 7' M/F St. Croix Mojo if I was in the same boat. I have that exact rod and use it mainly for plastics and small jigs but it also fishes a rattle trap or flutter spoon pretty well so it would probably work for what you're wanting.

Would you use this same setup casting 3/8-3/4 oz football jigs and swallow/med depth cranks on the same rod? Second what line size (fluoro or braid) would you use?

[Northern Strain]

I have a mojo, it is built well but not very sensitive. For the same price you could get a veritas, a bps carbonlite, or a shimano compre, all much better options than the others you listed.

Also before you get a mojo I would look at the St. Croix Triumph, it is the same blank and components but it is better balanced and just feels better also at a cheaper. Also for a bit more I would look at the St. Croix Premier it balances well and is made in the USA.

[Missouribassman95]

That's a tough one. What I look for in a jig rod and what I look for in a cranking rod are two way different things except I want them to be at least 7'. I would probably go with the 7' M/F St. Croix Mojo if I was in the same boat. I have that exact rod and use it mainly for plastics and small jigs but it also fishes a rattle trap or flutter spoon pretty well so it would probably work for what you're wanting.

Okay thank you. I think I'm gonna get a Mojo.

[Missouribassman95]

I have a mojo, it is built well but not very sensitive. For the same price you could get a veritas, a bps carbonlite, or a shimano compre, all much better options than the others you listed.

Also before you get a mojo I would look at the St. Croix Triumph, it is the same blank and components but it is better balanced and just feels better also at a cheaper. Also for a bit more I would look at the St. Croix Premier it balances well and is made in the USA.

LOL always wanna buy American!

[Northern Strain]

Hey the mojo is an okay rod, but take it from me for $100 you can get some much better rods. I bought the jig and worm model and I wish I had purchased a different rod. I really think that you should look at the veritas, I forgot to mention the falcon bucoo in my previous post, but really there are so many better options than a mojo. It is just not sensitive enough to fish contact baits like a jig and it is just tip heavy. I use mine for spinnerbaits, flukes, and rubber frogs.

[Northern Strain]

Read this thread, I really wish I had!

[Bluebasser86]

Would you use this same setup casting 3/8-3/4 oz football jigs and swallow/med depth cranks on the same rod? Second what line size (fluoro or braid) would you use?

Ideally, no. I use either a 7' 1" MH/F or a 7' 3" MH/F for my football jigs and a 7' MH/M for my shallow and mid depth cranks. Could you use one for both, yes, but you're going to be compromising one way or the other. For my football jigs I use 14-20lb flouro and 10-15lb mono or flouro for my cranks.

As for the mojo rods, seems most people have a love/hate relationship with them. Either you really like them, or you don't. Personally I really like the feel of them and they have been extremely durable. I have yet to break one or knock out an insert except for one that was completely my fault for swinging a fish that was way too heavy. Is there better rods in that price range? Maybe, but I'd at least hold one and put the reel you plan to use on it first before it's completely ruled out.

[bwell]

Is a MH/M to light of an action for deep diving cranks?

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

Is a MH/M to light of an action for deep diving cranks?

To light of power? Or, to slow of action?

MH is fine for deep cranks, I don't care for the moderate action that so many are using. It's possible that some of the pro's use the more moderate actions because they are cranking with flouro.

I still use mono, but prefer a faster action, stiffer rod for deeper cranks.

Rods can vary a bunch to. A M from one manufacturer can be a much stiffer rod than a M from another manufacturer.

[bwell]

Action... I would think a Mod action rod would have to much give fishing deep cranks. I think I might just go with a MH/MF or MH/F and I can just it for other applications.

[Missouribassman95]

http://www.bassresou.../page__hl__mojo

Read this thread, I really wish I had!

Thank you for posting this. But what about the "Berkley Lightning Shock Series rod"? Have you had any experience with it?

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

Action... I would think a Mod action rod would have to much give fishing deep cranks. I think I might just go with a MH/MF or MH/F and I can just it for other applications.

That is what I do. Maybe the stretch of mono helps me to no problems hooking, or holding fish....For the most part, I think the moderate rod for crankbaits bit, is overplayed.

But that is just my opinion.

[Crappiebasser]

I don't think you can get a good jig rod that fishes cranks well. I use an Avid 7' MHXF for 1/2oz and up jigs and an Avid 6'8" MHXF for lighter jigs. These double duty as a spinnerbait rods. For crankbaits I have the SC Premier CB rods in M,MH, and H all are moderate action.

[Reel_Kaotic]

Ideally, no. I use either a 7' 1" MH/F or a 7' 3" MH/F for my football jigs and a 7' MH/M for my shallow and mid depth cranks. Could you use one for both, yes, but you're going to be compromising one way or the other. For my football jigs I use 14-20lb flouro and 10-15lb mono or flouro for my cranks.

As for the mojo rods, seems most people have a love/hate relationship with them. Either you really like them, or you don't. Personally I really like the feel of them and they have been extremely durable. I have yet to break one or knock out an insert except for one that was completely my fault for swinging a fish that was way too heavy. Is there better rods in that price range? Maybe, but I'd at least hold one and put the reel you plan to use on it first before it's completely ruled out.

What would be the need for that much backbone in a rod for fishing open water with football jigs less than 3/4 oz? I was considering a 7' Med/F rod for primarily casting jigs w/ 12# flouro.

[Northern Strain]

Thank you for posting this. But what about the "Berkley Lightning Shock Series rod"? Have you had any experience with it?

I would rather have a mojo than a shock... If you could spend up to $160 I would look at the Duckett Micro Magic rods, eihter the DFMM70MC (7' M) or the DFMM66M-C (6'6" M) maybe even the DFMM66MH-C (6'6" MH). I know they are alot more than the others you are asking about but I think they would work the best fro what you want. I mean the fact is you're probably not going to be fishing much until this spring so try to save up some extra money and buy a Duckett when you can spend $160.

[roadwarrior]

Great compromise:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/93832-optimus-xlt-dhc5-701camcb/page__pid__1059372#entry1059372

[Bluebasser86]

What would be the need for that much backbone in a rod for fishing open water with football jigs less than 3/4 oz? I was considering a 7' Med/F rod for primarily casting jigs w/ 12# flouro.

You can use a lighter rod like that and it will probably work in a lot of situations. The reason I'm using those rods for open water football jigs is that I'm making long casts and need to move alot of line on the hookset and have enough power in my rod to bury the hook in a big fishes mouth. Also, not all open water is completely obstruction free. If there is one log or tree on that point or drop I'm fishing and I hook a big fish, she is going to do everything she can to get to it. I use the heavier line because I fish some nasty rocks that eat line in a hurry. I could fish 12lb but I'd have to retie every couple of casts.

[Reel_Kaotic]

You can use a lighter rod like that and it will probably work in a lot of situations. The reason I'm using those rods for open water football jigs is that I'm making long casts and need to move alot of line on the hookset and have enough power in my rod to bury the hook in a big fishes mouth. Also, not all open water is completely obstruction free. If there is one log or tree on that point or drop I'm fishing and I hook a big fish, she is going to do everything she can to get to it. I use the heavier line because I fish some nasty rocks that eat line in a hurry. I could fish 12lb but I'd have to retie every couple of casts.

The majority of the water I fish there are few open water obstructions. So my thinking is that I would benefit more with Med/F rod and lighter line. Do you lose sensitivity using a heavier rod and line?

[Bluebasser86]

The majority of the water I fish there are few open water obstructions. So my thinking is that I would benefit more with Med/F rod and lighter line. Do you lose sensitivity using a heavier rod and line?

If you use a high quality rod there shouldn't be a big difference in the sensativity of a M/F vs a MH/F rod. The only time the heavier line would affect sensativity very much would be if it was windy or there was a strong current because the thicker line would be influenced by the current more so you would have a bigger bow in your line or you'd have to use a heavier jig. If you're fishing all open water your set up is probably fine but even in open water if you're dragging your jig through rocks I'd suggest stepping up to 15lb flouro to help with abrasion and possible break offs.

[Reel_Kaotic]

If you use a high quality rod there shouldn't be a big difference in the sensativity of a M/F vs a MH/F rod. The only time the heavier line would affect sensativity very much would be if it was windy or there was a strong current because the thicker line would be influenced by the current more so you would have a bigger bow in your line or you'd have to use a heavier jig. If you're fishing all open water your set up is probably fine but even in open water if you're dragging your jig through rocks I'd suggest stepping up to 15lb flouro to help with abrasion and possible break offs.

What's your thoughts on a BPS Johnny Morris Signiture II or Abu Garica Veritas rods? I have two Signiture I spinning rods, and I like their performance.