Super User Muddy Posted January 27, 2009 Super User Posted January 27, 2009 breaking on rock I Fish mostly DT's when I am cranking which for me means slaming them into shrunken rock piles. Since the first year I have yet to brek one this way. I did break one by getting it wrapped into the trolling motor, but not on the water. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted January 27, 2009 Super User Posted January 27, 2009 breaking on rock So when you say breaking on rock, are you talking about casting it up on some rocks on the bank or cranking it into rocks? i emailed rapala not long ago about busting the lips off their cranks and got this back: Thank you for your email and letting us know about your experiences with our lures. Rapala can make an indestructible lure that will never break but it will not have the action and unique construction that provides such great productivity. As you know, many factors cause lures to become damaged. Rocks, Weeds, certain Fishing Techniques, miss use, Line strength, drag, and bottom structures are some factors that cause lures to weaken or become damaged. Time and time again, when we test and study lures that have broken, the results show that some hindering factor had caused the lure to weaken. If you think your lure was defective and not damaged by other means as listed above, then here are some options for you to pick from: 1. Take the lure back to the store where you purchased it for refund or replacement. 2. Send the lure to us for replacement. ive quit buying Rapala baits all together. Thats why your name is Skunked Again and Mine's not Quote
TheBeast Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 From my warehouse the true DT20's aren't even on the market yet. Here is the memo they sent out: Rapala has announced that these lures will not be available until late March early April. The issue had been that the production lures were only hitting 15'. This problem has been solved. Rapala would not let this bait hit the market till they knew for sure that it is a 20' running crankbait. Well let me clarify though that memo was concerning the SureSet serie that are equiped with SureSet hooks on the front and rear. Quote
Super User MALTESE FALCON Posted January 27, 2009 Super User Posted January 27, 2009 I fish crankbaits the majority of the time. I fish ALOT of Rapala DT series baits and have NEVER had one break. In fact I've never had a Rapala lure of any kind break. Falcon Quote
warmer Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 dt4's to dt10's the lip rips out of the bait on me. dt 10's - 20's, the lip cracks and/or rips out. i broke 2 in the last 2 days. i will now commit to making a pile of all my broken and breaking rapalas and sending them back to the company in one fell swoop. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 27, 2009 Super User Posted January 27, 2009 I buy most hardbaits from BPS locally. Any lure, from any company, that is defective, becomes defective or breaks gets exchanged. I have never had much discussion and have never been denied. On the other-hand, they don't replace lost lures! 8-) Quote
Super User Muddy Posted January 27, 2009 Super User Posted January 27, 2009 dt4's to dt10's the lip rips out of the bait on me. dt 10's - 20's, the lip cracks and/or rips out. i broke 2 in the last 2 days. i will now commit to making a pile of all my broken and breaking rapalas and sending them back to the company in one fell swoop. YEA RIGHT!!! Then why do you keep buying them, if you have so much trouble. What does every defective Rapala wind up in your tackle bag? Geezzz, gimme a break. Quote
warmer Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 dt4's to dt10's the lip rips out of the bait on me. dt 10's - 20's, the lip cracks and/or rips out. i broke 2 in the last 2 days. i will now commit to making a pile of all my broken and breaking rapalas and sending them back to the company in one fell swoop. YEA RIGHT!!! yeah right? as in... you think im lying? answer this question, and then ill respond to the rest of your post. Then why do you keep buying them, if you have so much trouble. What does every defective Rapala wind up in your tackle bag? Geezzz, gimme a break. Quote
Pitchinkid Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I love the Rapala DT Series Crankbaits. I have broke 1, due to a large rock on bank that i hit with a poor cast. Ive seen 2 others broke on a bridge in Guntersville.(not mentioning no names).But it was caused by the fisherman. I hope all of you continue to quit buying them, just more for me Quote
tyrius. Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 dt4's to dt10's the lip rips out of the bait on me. dt 10's - 20's, the lip cracks and/or rips out. i broke 2 in the last 2 days. i will now commit to making a pile of all my broken and breaking rapalas and sending them back to the company in one fell swoop. What are you doing differently than everyone else? Are you using very strong braid with a very tight drag? What are you hooking them on to pull the lips out? Seems to me that you're doing something different than normal to experience this. Quote
tyrius. Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 But it was caused by the fisherman. I hope all of you continue to quit buying them, just more for me Me too. Maybe then they'll go on sale and I'll be able to get more!!! Quote
Primus Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I've beeen fortunate enough not to have a lip break on the DT baits that I've used, in my area I'm usually fishing outside the weedline, ripping through grass or ticking the tops of stumps. I have ripped a few lips from some nice bass with them Quote
warmer Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 What are you doing differently than everyone else? Are you using very strong braid with a very tight drag? What are you hooking them on to pull the lips out? i dont know what i am doing differently. i would say that i got a bad batch of them, as i bought them together in bulk, but i have had trouble since then as well. i do not fish braid w/ my crankbaits. i keep my drag soft enough. i am not easy on cranks, but rapala is by far the most susceptible to breakage. "why do i have them in my tackle box?" muddy asks. well muddy, im glad you asked, the dt has a superb action, and runs true to depth. additionally, the casting distance that i get is superior to all other baits in the same class (although strike king has fixed this problem on its latest release). i am happy to know that they will take returns. i wonder if this is true for returned lips only? i mean, sometimes on a windy day, you just cant find the other half of the lure. Quote
tyrius. Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 i dont know what i am doing differently. Odds are it is something, because your experience is outside the norm. but rapala is by far the most susceptible to breakage. Rapala is pretty much all I fish and I've never broken one. I still have a couple jointed minnows that I fished when I was in high school. I've only ever seen one break and that was due to user abuse. The freaking things like to get stuck between rocks though, but that goes for nearly everything I fish in that spot. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted January 27, 2009 Super User Posted January 27, 2009 breaking on rock So when you say breaking on rock, are you talking about casting it up on some rocks on the bank or cranking it into rocks? i emailed rapala not long ago about busting the lips off their cranks and got this back: Thank you for your email and letting us know about your experiences with our lures. Rapala can make an indestructible lure that will never break but it will not have the action and unique construction that provides such great productivity. As you know, many factors cause lures to become damaged. Rocks, Weeds, certain Fishing Techniques, miss use, Line strength, drag, and bottom structures are some factors that cause lures to weaken or become damaged. Time and time again, when we test and study lures that have broken, the results show that some hindering factor had caused the lure to weaken. If you think your lure was defective and not damaged by other means as listed above, then here are some options for you to pick from: 1. Take the lure back to the store where you purchased it for refund or replacement. 2. Send the lure to us for replacement. ive quit buying Rapala baits all together. Thats why your name is Skunked Again and Mine's not heh..............if, IF im not catching fish like i caught fish with the DT's i might be forced to do things id rather not. im excited to see how other baits work. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted January 27, 2009 Super User Posted January 27, 2009 i dont know what i am doing differently. Odds are it is something, because your experience is outside the norm. but rapala is by far the most susceptible to breakage. Rapala is pretty much all I fish and I've never broken one. I still have a couple jointed minnows that I fished when I was in high school. I've only ever seen one break and that was due to user abuse. The freaking things like to get stuck between rocks though, but that goes for nearly everything I fish in that spot. had you ever broken one this is what they would look like. Quote
warmer Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 had you ever broken one this is what they would look like. haha! thanks for posting that. i was going to pile up the 5 or so that i have laying around and take a picture, but my camera has been loaned out. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted January 28, 2009 Super User Posted January 28, 2009 Well I have been fishing Rapalas for over 30 years, I currently own 38 , all Balsa and mostly DTs and have broken 2 of them One for slapping against the water and one got caught in a trolling motor. I as many of my friends use these lures successfully and while I can see people getting a bad run, I know an exaggeration when I see one. I would say 30 years of expereince qualifies me to know what I am talking about. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted January 28, 2009 Super User Posted January 28, 2009 Well I have been fishing Rapalas for over 30 years, I currently won 38 , all Balsa and mostly DTs and have broken 2 of them One for slapping against the water and one got caught in a trolling motor. I as many of my friends use these lures successfully and while I can see people getting a bad run, I know an exaggeration when I see one. I would say 30 years of expereince qualifies me to know what I am talking about. the DT 10 and the DT 8 are my all time fav. bait. i just dont want to buy them 8 times. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted January 28, 2009 Super User Posted January 28, 2009 I think I see why we differ, I never use the thin flat ones or the sure sets. I bought a couple of the sure sets and they hung up on everything in my boat, I am clumsy by nature. I really can not call on my experience with these Rapalas because I do not use them I am sure some one like Micro or Stringjam knows more about these I prefer fat cranks in craw fish and blue gill patterns. Quote
Shadcranker Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 My local BPS said they got a shipment of DT20's back in the Fall, but they sent them all back, bc there was a design flaw with the baits. I was going to try a couple, but now that I've heard that, I'll just stick with my DD22's and FF Shad #7's. Honestly, when the summer crankin bite is really on, I don't think it matters much what you throw, as long as you can get down to them. Most of the fish on the ledges I fish are in 8-15 ft anyway, so a true 20 ft bait is not really necessary for me. Quote
Bassaholic84 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Ill be buying some at the BPS spring classic. (I Locked the baitmonkey in the closet until then) Ive never had a problem with Rapalas. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted January 28, 2009 Super User Posted January 28, 2009 My local BPS said they got a shipment of DT20's back in the Fall, but they sent them all back, bc there was a design flaw with the baits. I was going to try a couple, but now that I've heard that, I'll just stick with my DD22's and FF Shad #7's. Honestly, when the summer crankin bite is really on, I don't think it matters much what you throw, as long as you can get down to them. Most of the fish on the ledges I fish are in 8-15 ft anyway, so a true 20 ft bait is not really necessary for me. They were not holding a true 20 ft, so Rapala recalled them. Quote
tyrius. Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 had you ever broken one this is what they would look like. Yeah, the broken lip issue is one that some Rapalas had. As far as I know it has been fixed. It's the pulling the lips out issue that I've never heard of. Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Well I have been fishing Rapalas for over 30 years, I currently won 38 , all Balsa and mostly DTs and have broken 2 of them One for slapping against the water and one got caught in a trolling motor. I as many of my friends use these lures successfully and while I can see people getting a bad run, I know an exaggeration when I see one. I would say 30 years of expereince qualifies me to know what I am talking about. the DT 10 and the DT 8 are my all time fav. bait. i just dont want to buy them 8 times. Where did you get a DT8? For those that have a DT20, how much would you say they weight? TackleTour must have a misprint in their ICAST review of the DT20, because they have it listed as weighing 3.25 oz. I can't imagine it would weight anywhere near that. If so, I will have to use a swimbait rod for deep cranking a DT20 (if I ever can find a DT20 to buy). Thanks. Quote
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