BasskingKeith Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 Alright... What is truly the big difference between the two? Is any one better than the other; does one have more advantages in windier conditions or what's the scoop? Is there supposed to be a difference, such as one being "better" than the other?...... Quote
rogvegas Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 I personally like the centrafugal(sp). You have better control. With the magnetic, it just moves a magnet in or out closer to or further from your spool. With cent. you can move pins in or out depending on the bait, line, wind or whatever. If you are very experienced with a baitcaster then its proably not that big a deal. I would try both out if you can, but overall i would say the cent. pins give you more adjustment. JMO Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted December 27, 2011 Super User Posted December 27, 2011 Its up to personal preference, but generally cent. are more "set it and forget it" while mag brakes may require more adjustment for wind/lure weight. I personally have all cent. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted December 27, 2011 Super User Posted December 27, 2011 Magentic brakes apply in my opinion a lighter braking throughout the whole cast, while centrifugal brakes apply braking at the highest speeds of the spool. My personal favorite is Daiwa's Magforce braking. It's a centrifugal magnetic brake. The faster the spool spins the more a rotor cup goes into the brake drum, and applies brakes, but at the lower speeds, there is no braking. Quote
NCLifetimer Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 I have reels with all three possibility(magnetic, cent and mag¢). I personally prefer cent to magnetic. The one reel with cent and magnetic(lews tournament pro) the magnetic brake is almost turned all the way off. Cent. seems to preform better for me in the wind. Most high end reels(expensive) seem to have cent. braking on them, I guess that could indicate that cent. is better than magnetic? My magnetic reel does preform better throwing 5/8oz lipless crankbaits a long way. The cent brake slows the reel down to much at the high RPM's that are reached. The cent. brake works better for lighter (1/2oz and under) or heavier lures that are "bulky" like crankbaits. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 27, 2011 Super User Posted December 27, 2011 I wouldn't really separate reels along magnetic and centrifugal. Some brands execute brake design better than others. Shimano's VBS is elegant and simple. Set it and forget, it just plain works. Daiwa's Mag-V and Mag-Z are amazingly adjustable. Get dialed in for your cast, and fire away. Want to add a couple yards, drop it by a click. Wind kicks up, dial it up a click. 1 Quote
BasskingKeith Posted December 27, 2011 Author Posted December 27, 2011 Alright guys, really like everyone's insight on this topic. I never really used the centrifical braked reel. Most of mine are magnetic, and wondering if there was a real big difference. Thanks again, I found everyone's comments useful. Quote
21farms Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 the braking force applied by centrifugal brakes varies depending on the speed of the spool: higher at the startup when it is most needed and tapering off at the end of the cast as the spool slows...simple and effective. simple magnetic brakes apply the same amount of braking force throughout the cast. most simple mag brakes are adjusted by manipulating the distance between the magnets and spool. abu-garcia's "linear magnetic brakes" used on some of their revos leave the magnets in place but utilize a shield to cover/expose the magnets (which is perplexing to me since this changes the shape of the magnetic field in a nonlinear fashion). the truly sophisticated braking systems such as daiwa's magforce V or Z or pflueger's ITB (inertia transfer braking) utilize the spinning spool's centrifugal force to move a plate on the spool closer to the magnets in the sideplate, effectively applying variable braking force the more it is needed. the hot trend right now is to combine both centrifugal brakes and magnets together in one reel with the rationale that centrifugal brakes apply their braking force at the beginning at the cast when centrifugal forces are greatest with the mag brakes kicking in at the end of the cast when there is almost no centrifugal force. i have examples of all the above systems and they all work. 2 Quote
Super User deep Posted December 28, 2011 Super User Posted December 28, 2011 21farms; Very useful explanation. Thanks. One quick question: Are there any braking systems which do most of the work near the end of the cast, that is, opposite to Shimano's VBS system? I think I read something like that about the older Revos with only mag braking.. but I'm not sure. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 28, 2011 Super User Posted December 28, 2011 The end is handled by spool tension or your thumb. It's just after spool start up, when air resistance slows the lure down that is when an overrun occurs. Quote
s13john Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 http://www.japantackle.com/Topics/brake_system.htm this article will explain it some days i like diawa some days i like shimano overall i find shimano more user freindly but performance out of diawas better in optional conditions Quote
Super User slonezp Posted December 28, 2011 Super User Posted December 28, 2011 Learn the "Thumb" and don't worry so much about the brakes. Quote
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