YoungProdigy19 Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 Does anyone know who makes the rods and reels for bass pro shops? I know quantum makes gander mountains rod and reels. Just wondering, I would appreciate some information. thank you! Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 I believe BPS is cotracting straight with factories now for their reels but they still share design and tooling seen in Pure Fishing products (ABU, Pflueger...)This is NOT to say they are the same reels however. BPS has some good reels and some to stay away from just like everyone else. Post some specific inquiries and I'm sure you'll here from lots of folks on both sides. Quote
steverowbotham Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 I am a huge fan of the carbonlite rods and the Johnny Morris rods and reels. Quote
JIGFISHERMAN. Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 You will get people bashing on them, but the simple fact is, because of their buying/selling power in the fishing community, they are able to offer products that are, in most cases, a better bang for your buck than you will find elsewhere. Quote
YoungProdigy19 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Posted December 26, 2011 Thanks guys. I've just been trying to figure it out. I appreciate it. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted December 26, 2011 Super User Posted December 26, 2011 Gander has had many manufacturers of rods and reels over the years.....at one time, St. Croix made a line of rods got them. I had a couple spinning reels about 12 years ago that were BPS branded Shimanos. St. Croix reels were made by Daiwa about 8 years ago. I would assume that like Gander, BPS puts out for bid when they want a new line. Quote
redboat Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 I am a huge fan of ... the Johnny Morris ... reels. Made by Pflueger. I have two of these, they are really nice reels. I especially like the centrifugal plus mag plus static drags; when I get 'em all set the reels seldom backlash, even using 100% flouro. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted December 27, 2011 Super User Posted December 27, 2011 I would assume that like Gander, BPS puts out for bid when they want a new line. They do no such thing. They contract directly with factories; of which there are only a handful in the world that do OEM manufacturing. Made by Pflueger. At one point, nearly ten years ago, BPS reels were made by Pflueger directly, this is no longer the case. They're made in a factory that handles some of the manufacturing for Pflueger but Bass Pro Shops no longer has to go through Pflueger in terms of quality control. They're the end-all be-all when it comes to finished product, themselves. From testing and calibration tolerances on BPS reels are typically higher than their counterparts from Pflueger. Much, much more could be said in terms of the manufacture, but that's really not what the thread is about. DVT stated correctly that they're direct contract fulfillment now, and rumor has it, they're investigating the possibility of opening their own facility to further increase the quality. Quote
Jason Penn Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 i have had nothing but good luck with all of the bps reels i have now. i've got 3 of the pro qualifier tournaments and 1 carbonlite and they are good, solid reels. i've been using them for 2 years now. years ago, i had problems with a couple of the clunn reels but only in the 5:1 ratio, not the 6:1. bps was excellent in taking care of the problems. i called them and they shipped out new reels with a return label in the box for the reels with problems. i'm really excited about the new carbonlite reels. i will probably get 2 of the 7:1, 1 5:1, and 1 of the 750 spinning reels this year. i hope they hold as well as the others i have. Quote
Senkoman12 Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 i have had nothing but good luck with all of the bps reels i have now. i've got 3 of the pro qualifier tournaments and 1 carbonlite and they are good, solid reels. i've been using them for 2 years now. years ago, i had problems with a couple of the clunn reels but only in the 5:1 ratio, not the 6:1. bps was excellent in taking care of the problems. i called them and they shipped out new reels with a return label in the box for the reels with problems. i'm really excited about the new carbonlite reels. i will probably get 2 of the 7:1, 1 5:1, and 1 of the 750 spinning reels this year. i hope they hold as well as the others i have. i got the clunn sig serire in 6.4:1. what a great reel it is. i got it for $35 from a guy i knew Quote
MagicMoment Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 I'm not sure about now but I know Biscayne made a lot of their rods. I think they get different labels to make different rods. As far as the reels I havent a clue. Quote
boonhogganbeck Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I don't know who makes them, but I really like the pro qualifier baitcaster reels. 1 Quote
Crankenstein Crony Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I've never used BPS reels personally, but I know a couple guys who use the Johnny Morris CarbonLite, Johnny Morris Signature Series, and the Johnny Morris Carbon Black Bass reels and they really like those. I'm not sure who makes them, but it sounds like the Johnny Morris reels are pretty solid, quality reels. Quote
nwibass Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 Carbon Lite rods-lightest rod I have ever held, I know it sounds crazy because theyre only $100, and yes pure fishing does make their reels I was speaking with a store manager, he told me, and also the johnny morris and carbon lite BPS reels are excellent. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted December 30, 2011 Super User Posted December 30, 2011 Carbon Lite rods-lightest rod I have ever held, I know it sounds crazy because theyre only $100, and yes pure fishing does make their reels I was speaking with a store manager, he told me, and also the johnny morris and carbon lite BPS reels are excellent. Then the store manager doesn't know what he's talking about. That's simply not the case anymore. Pure fishing DOES NOT make BPS reels. Pure fishing doesn't make any of their own reels, except Swedish made Abu Garcia. Revo reels are made in China, the vast majority of Pflooger reels are made in China. Almost all of BPS reels are made in Korea, with very few exceptions. Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted December 30, 2011 Super User Posted December 30, 2011 I've been blown away by the consistent performance of their PQ's... definitely the best sub $100 BC reel that I've ever fished with. Quote
nwibass Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 Abu is,made in korea which is a division of pure fishing Quote
robdob Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 They do no such thing. They contract directly with factories; of which there are only a handful in the world that do OEM manufacturing. At one point, nearly ten years ago, BPS reels were made by Pflueger directly, this is no longer the case. They're made in a factory that handles some of the manufacturing for Pflueger but Bass Pro Shops no longer has to go through Pflueger in terms of quality control. They're the end-all be-all when it comes to finished product, themselves. From testing and calibration tolerances on BPS reels are typically higher than their counterparts from Pflueger. Much, much more could be said in terms of the manufacture, but that's really not what the thread is about. DVT stated correctly that they're direct contract fulfillment now, and rumor has it, they're investigating the possibility of opening their own facility to further increase the quality. the new extreme reels for 2012 look an awful lot like a pflueger to me.. i dont know anything about who makes them i'm just pointing out it looks like they are a straight copy of some of the pfluegar baitcasters.... also i have several bps reels and they all seem very good.. pro qualifiers and extremes. maybe not as nice as some of my revo's but they are as good as anything else for the money and i definitely abuse them so they seem to be good reels in my opinion.. can't speak for the rods i have none but i do have some of the feild and stream tec spec's from dicks and they are very good rods for the money.. and i was told by a dicks employee the tec specs are made by quantum and are the same blank used in the kvd signature series Quote
robdob Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 Abu is,made in korea which is a division of pure fishing the company i work for "jarden" owns abu garcia... some of the reels are assembled in korea but i can promise you the parts and peices that go into them are not made in korea Quote
McAlpine Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 The bps carbonlite rod paired with a carbon black JM reel is becoming my main rig anymore. Have 3 of these set ups now. Awesome bang for the buck quality. If you watch for sales this rig will run $170-200. Not bad at all for how light and sensitive the rod is and how smooth the reel is. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted January 2, 2012 Super User Posted January 2, 2012 the new extreme reels for 2012 look an awful lot like a pflueger to me.. i dont know anything about who makes them i'm just pointing out it looks like they are a straight copy of some of the pfluegar baitcasters.... also i have several bps reels and they all seem very good.. pro qualifiers and extremes. maybe not as nice as some of my revo's but they are as good as anything else for the money and i definitely abuse them so they seem to be good reels in my opinion.. can't speak for the rods i have none but i do have some of the feild and stream tec spec's from dicks and they are very good rods for the money.. and i was told by a dicks employee the tec specs are made by quantum and are the same blank used in the kvd signature series Argue all you want, your speculation is just that. My knowledge is first hand, and I'll net get into it further. The Tec Spec rods aren't made by Quantum, either. It's a completely different strain of graphite... Quote
robdob Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Argue all you want, your speculation is just that. My knowledge is first hand, and I'll net get into it further. The Tec Spec rods aren't made by Quantum, either. It's a completely different strain of graphite... since your the expert would you care to tell us who makes them then. all other feild and stream rods are made by quantum that is a fact . i'm just stating what a store employee told me.. and if you pick up one of the kvd signature series rods they feel about the same and seem like if they didn't say kvd on them they'd cost about 50 bucks not 80 or 90..... and what exactly do you mean "argue all you want" i wasn't arguing with anyone i'm not sure how you could read what i said and take it as arguing.. i guess some people just look for conflict anywhere they can find it... i'm serious if you know who makes the tec spec then tell us just don't be a jerk for no reason Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted January 3, 2012 Super User Posted January 3, 2012 since your the expert would you care to tell us who makes them then. all other feild and stream rods are made by quantum that is a fact . i'm just stating what a store employee told me.. and if you pick up one of the kvd signature series rods they feel about the same and seem like if they didn't say kvd on them they'd cost about 50 bucks not 80 or 90..... and what exactly do you mean "argue all you want" i wasn't arguing with anyone i'm not sure how you could read what i said and take it as arguing.. i guess some people just look for conflict anywhere they can find it... i'm serious if you know who makes the tec spec then tell us just don't be a jerk for no reason They're made by an OEM manufacturer, as are many of the rods out there... I give up, you can think Quantum makes them all, it's easier that way. Quote
Super User webertime Posted January 3, 2012 Super User Posted January 3, 2012 They're made by an OEM manufacturer, as are many of the rods out there... I give up, you can think Quantum makes them all, it's easier that way. Hooligan is right. "Pure" fishing itself does not make any of their own products, they are a design and marketing firm. Their designs are farmed it out to a manufacturer, too add to that EVERYONE with the exception of Shimano and Daiwa does that. And even that may have changed with the recent models. You simply need to come up with spec and contact a Korean, Chinese, or Indonesian manufacturer and BOOM you are a reel or rod company. So that Tec Spec rod is NOT made by Quantum, because Quantum doesn't make their rods, they may however come from the same plants and maybe even wrapped by the same person, Quantum on Monday, F&S Tuesday, Kister Magnesiums on Friday afternoons (JOKING). The BPS/Pure thing works like this: Pure designs the Pflueger/Revo Awesomo reel. Then gets a bid from "Dai-Yung"(made up) industries and they sign the contract and start producing the Awesomo. BPS then contracts with Dai-Yung and since Dai Yung already has the tooling and manufacturing set up for the Awesomo, they can base base the BPS "Carbonlust" model off the tooling and parts they already produce. Hence the similarities... Snowboards, Skis, Cars, MP3 Players, Bicycles, Sportswear, the list goes on and on, all are produced by companies in this manner. When I was in the cycling industry, I'd see the guy riding on a Specialized just spewing hate about Giant Bicycles... This guy was getting insufferable to listen too, so my co-worker showed him a picture of Giant's production facility in China and on the assembly line were rows upon rows of that dude's Specialized. THAT was golden silence... 2 Quote
Packard Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Hooligan is right. "Pure" fishing itself does not make any of their own products, they are a design and marketing firm. Their designs are farmed it out to a manufacturer, too add to that EVERYONE with the exception of Shimano and Daiwa does that. And even that may have changed with the recent models. You simply need to come up with spec and contact a Korean, Chinese, or Indonesian manufacturer and BOOM you are a reel or rod company. So that Tec Spec rod is NOT made by Quantum, because Quantum doesn't make their rods, they may however come from the same plants and maybe even wrapped by the same person, Quantum on Monday, F&S Tuesday, Kister Magnesiums on Friday afternoons (JOKING). The BPS/Pure thing works like this: Pure designs the Pflueger/Revo Awesomo reel. Then gets a bid from "Dai-Yung"(made up) industries and they sign the contract and start producing the Awesomo. BPS then contracts with Dai-Yung and since Dai Yung already has the tooling and manufacturing set up for the Awesomo, they can base base the BPS "Carbonlust" model off the tooling and parts they already produce. Hence the similarities... Snowboards, Skis, Cars, MP3 Players, Bicycles, Sportswear, the list goes on and on, all are produced by companies in this manner. When I was in the cycling industry, I'd see the guy riding on a Specialized just spewing hate about Giant Bicycles... This guy was getting insufferable to listen too, so my co-worker showed him a picture of Giant's production facility in China and on the assembly line were rows upon rows of that dude's Specialized. THAT was golden silence... That pretty much sums it up. Very informative post! Quote
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