hendrix190 Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 Ive used braided superlines a few times, i see many benefits and many problems with them. One major problem ive had with the braided line is the line under alot of tension tends to dig into itself on the spool caused by the small diameter of the string. So ive always gone back to mono and flourocarbon. I would like to use the braided line if there was a reel that was made specificly for laying the line on the spool in a way that would allow lots of tension on the line without it digging in. Now i remember as a kid watching fishing shows and seeing spiderwire commercials come on. I think i remember them advertising a baitcasting reel that had a crossweb feature that the line would be layed in a way to prevent the digging in(maybe im wrong and it was only a spinning reel). I dont think they ever explained it but i assumed it would have to be a reel with a superfast level winder to put the line on crossing eachself on the spool(i could be wrong). Ive spent alot of time tryin to research this on the internet and havent found much of anything. No info on these reels or single picture of them. Ive looked at the spiderweb website and they dont make reels or have any info about them. Im assumeing these reels didnt do too well on the market and pretty much vanished. I did read an article that said the crossweb feature was patented. But why would the company patented it and not produce reels with the feature. Does anyone remember these reels or have any info about them. And are there any reels out there that lay the line on the spool in a way to prevent the line from digging in? Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted December 24, 2011 Super User Posted December 24, 2011 Just use 50# braid. No digging at the that diameter and larger. Quote
Super User deep Posted December 24, 2011 Super User Posted December 24, 2011 While I can't help you with your query, the solution a lot of folks have is to use a heavier line like ol' BC says. That is, if you use 6 lb mono on your spinning reel, spool on braid that has the same *diameter* as 6 lb mono. For Daiwa Samurai braid, that would be 30 lb test. If you use 14 lb mono on your baitcaster, you might want to spool on 70 lb Samurai. You get the idea. Quote
Fat-G Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 Just use 50# braid. No digging at the that diameter and larger. Does everyone agree with young Collin? If so, I must have super-ninja hooksets. I always have to cast and pull out the dig-in after I catch a fish with 50# braid... ...maybe I need to chill out... Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted December 24, 2011 Super User Posted December 24, 2011 I remember reading about a reel on this site that does what you are refering to. I vaguely recall it being high dollar and made in Japan, yet I can't remember. Let me search around for it, and see what I can find. Quote
Craiger12 Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 Same here. Each time I catch a fish on 50# Fireline Braid it digs into itself. It really isn't much of an issue though. Just make sure your next cast is long enough to clear it or pull the line off by hand and it will be fine. Never really gives me a problem. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted December 24, 2011 Super User Posted December 24, 2011 Does everyone agree with young Collin? If so, I must have super-ninja hooksets. I always have to cast and pull out the dig-in after I catch a fish with 50# braid... ...maybe I need to chill out... Or I just have little b***h hooksets :grin: LOL Seriously though, I have no or very minimal (Casts out just fine) dig with 832 or samurai. Quote
Super User deep Posted December 24, 2011 Super User Posted December 24, 2011 I remember reading about a reel on this site that does what you are refering to. I vaguely recall it being high dollar and made in Japan, yet I can't remember. Let me search around for it, and see what I can find. Indeed. I recall reading something like that too. Actually I searched for a while, and didn't/ couldn't find it. Quote
hendrix190 Posted December 24, 2011 Author Posted December 24, 2011 i did some more research and i found the reel made by spiderwire/mitchell, its called a spidercast. it comes in low profile baitcasters of different models as well as spinning reel models. ive read the reviews on the reel and people say the crossweb feature really doesnt prevent the line from digging in like the company claims. theres alot of pictures of them if u search "spidercast baitcaster" on google image search. it looks like a pretty cheaply made reel. thanx for the comments though and i would like to see the info on the high dollar japanesse reel yall were refering to if anyone can find it. Quote
loodkop Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 I have a spidercast bc lying around somewhere in my workshop. I have no idea if thy are still being made but would never buy or recommend it. I have used it for less than 6 months when the plastic dragstar broke. It was also noisy and unrefined imo. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted December 24, 2011 Super User Posted December 24, 2011 Only thing I've been able to find on here is about the JWA/Mitchell Spidercast reel. I swear I read about a Japanese reel on here that is made for braid. This is gonna drive me outta my tree until I find it. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 There are some spinning reels with a fast ocssilation that will criss-cross line to help avoid digging in. Good, round braid with a reasonable diameter should be pretty manageable. That cheap Spiderwire reel is the only baitcaster that come to mind. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted December 24, 2011 Super User Posted December 24, 2011 Most Shimano spinning reels allow you to insert washers that will adjust the line lay pattern. It works wonders, too. Baitcasters- Mitchell is the only one I've ever seen that has a crossover wrap. Quote
NoBassPro Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 Good, round braid with a reasonable diameter should be pretty manageable. With braids, choosing a good line of the proper diameter is probably the best thing you can do in terms of manageability as far as I'm concerned. I'd go that route before purchasing a new reel, anyway. Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted December 25, 2011 Super User Posted December 25, 2011 The thicker the line, the more minimal the dig. Its just something you have to accept with braid. Nothing is perfect, everything has a slight flaw. I use 65# due to its 12# diameter. Every cast you make after hooking a fish is gonna give you that sudden stop of the spool. We laugh and say "hookset". You dont have to use a filler line. If you want to its up to you, for me it just takes up spool capacity. Tha crossweb thing, I wouldnt worry to much about that. All reels are pretty good for braid. Quote
BasskingKeith Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 Braid happens to do that a lot. That's just part of it. I couldn't tell you of any baitcasters made for braid, except for that Ardent "flippin and pitchin" one. I have a spinning rod and reel combo "made for braid" though, it's a Pflueger Arbor..... Quote
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