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So even though my friend brought this up yesterday while fishing a pond with me,ive thought about it a few times but never really stayed with the topic.Lets say you have a soft plastic bait and you've caught multiple fish on it without it coming off. Do other bass smell that other bass have been on the lure or anything?and if they do sense it, does it positively or negatively effect it,or does it not really do anything.

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I dont think it is something that could negatively impact your fishing. For one, bass eat bass. So think of it as Bass Flavored JJ'S magic.

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I don't know,but when I catch one on a plastic bait it seems to do well all day till I lose it. Never really thought about it till just know.

Good topic,Looking forward to hear more answers from others.

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If you think about your post you have stated that this particular bait has caught multiple fish, I think it is just the right bait with the right presentaion under the right circumstances.

Can they smell the other fish on that bait? yes, but is it enough to entice a strike? maybe? I think it has a lot to do with the feeding habbits more so than the smell of another fish.

Does it negitively impact the bait or the fish? well if your catching fish off of the same bait multiple times then the answer to that question is no. other than a little wear and tear on the bait and the fish being on the recieving end of a good lip piercing.

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I've heard guys say that the negative pheromones that the fish release during the fight can negatively impact the catching ability of the fish, but that doesn't make scents (Sorry, couldn't help it).

You here guys saying all the time how they can mimicking scared or fleeing pray with cranks, topwaters, swimbaits, etc. and football jigs are used to represent a craw rearing up into a defensive posture... Wouldn't the prey release negative pheromones also? And I have never really noticed a difference in the ability to catch fish after two or three fish. In fact, a lot of hardbaits seem to get better with time... Just some things to think on.

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If you think about your post you have stated that this particular bait has caught multiple fish, I think it is just the right bait with the right presentaion under the right circumstances.

Can they smell the other fish on that bait? yes, but is it enough to entice a strike? maybe? I think it has a lot to do with the feeding habbits more so than the smell of another fish.

Does it negitively impact the bait or the fish? well if your catching fish off of the same bait multiple times then the answer to that question is no. other than a little wear and tear on the bait and the fish being on the recieving end of a good lip piercing.

I did notice a little slow down on the action,but that was probably because me and my friend had already cleaned house around the pond with other lures as well,plus the bait was a little beat up,i just though it was good enough to keep on lol

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I'll throw a little curve ball into the conversation.

Has anyone else ever had a hot lure go cold after having a pike/musky maul it? It has happened to me several times with crankbaits and/or spinnerbaits. Makes me think those lures took on a smell those bass didn't like.

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I'll throw a little curve ball into the conversation.

Has anyone else ever had a hot lure go cold after having a pike/musky maul it? It has happened to me several times with crankbaits and/or spinnerbaits. Makes me think those lures took on a smell those bass didn't like.

If you had a monstrous toothy dominate species that likes to take a chunk outta you at any chance would you hang around if you heard him coming? Bass use their sense of smell for protection as well as hunting. Bass and Musky smell totally different, and you won't find to many bass eating musky.

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I'll throw a little curve ball into the conversation.

Has anyone else ever had a hot lure go cold after having a pike/musky maul it? It has happened to me several times with crankbaits and/or spinnerbaits. Makes me think those lures took on a smell those bass didn't like.

Just a guess but I would venture to say your lure may have gone cold just before that happened, Bass in my experience will not stick around if a larger preditor is anywhere close.

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I've heard guys say that the negative hormones that the fish release during the fight can negatively impact the catching ability of the fish, but that doesn't make scents (Sorry, couldn't help it).

You here guys saying all the time how they can mimicking scared or fleeing pray with cranks, topwaters, swimbaits, etc. and football jigs are used to represent a craw rearing up into a defensive posture... Wouldn't the prey release negative hormones also? And I have never really noticed a difference in the ability to catch fish after two or three fish. In fact, a lot of hardbaits seem to get better with time... Just some things to think on.

Correct me if I am wrong but hormones are what drives all of us to do things we were built to do, It's pheromones that give off different scents.

Would the prey give off negitive pheromones if it were threatened? ask a skunk.

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You are correct, it is pheromones, not hormones. That should have been a clerical error, but I didn't catch it. You have a good point about the skunk. What I was trying to say in my above post is that those pheromones would seem natural to a fish chasing a baitfish or crawdad because prey in panic mode would release those pheromones as well as a fish after it had been hooked.

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You are correct, it is pheromones, not hormones. That should have been a clerical error, but I didn't catch it. You have a good point about the skunk. What I was trying to say in my above post is that those pheromones would seem natural to a fish chasing a baitfish or crawdad because prey in panic mode would release those pheromones as well as a fish after it had been hooked.

True I agree, And I understood your post perfectly, nice job!

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I'll throw a little curve ball into the conversation.

Has anyone else ever had a hot lure go cold after having a pike/musky maul it? It has happened to me several times with crankbaits and/or spinnerbaits. Makes me think those lures took on a smell those bass didn't like.

Maybe it has something to do with a different action because the lure is damaged. Happens to me quire a bit. Mostly with topwaters.

As far as the OP. Don't think it has any effect.

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Quite often when I hook a bass 1 or 2 others are closely behind, happens with other species too like tarpon and barracuda. Question is are they there for moral support while the hooked fish is in distress or do they want to strike the bait also.

When fish are on, they are ON and hit darn near anything. I do this with bass fishing all the time, catch a fish and immediately change lures, if the fish are still on I'm still catching them, not meaning I'm catching them on every cast. Yesterday afternoon was a perfect example, started off catching a couple on a jerkbait, switched over to a flats bucktail jig, finished off with a storm top water popper, actions was good on all three and caught fish.

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Quite often when I hook a bass 1 or 2 others are closely behind, happens with other species too like tarpon and barracuda. Question is are they there for moral support while the hooked fish is in distress or do they want to strike the bait also.

I believe they're just there for the bait. If you've ever had a bass, or any fish for that matter, pull off on you in this situation you'll almost always see one of the followers nail the lure....

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I'll throw a little curve ball into the conversation.

Has anyone else ever had a hot lure go cold after having a pike/musky maul it? It has happened to me several times with crankbaits and/or spinnerbaits. Makes me think those lures took on a smell those bass didn't like.

I fish the Mississippi river often and I have caught pike, walleye, sm and lm bass on the same lure within minutes. most strike on hard baits are reaction bites anyway.

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I believe they're just there for the bait. If you've ever had a bass, or any fish for that matter, pull off on you in this situation you'll almost always see one of the followers nail the lure....

Ya you can see the followers try to steal the lure sometimes

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I have caught 10 bass on one wacky rigged Senko.

I have caught numerous bass using one Zoom trick worm and one finesse worm.

Same is true for hard baits.

I don't think it matters as you have to set the hook within seconds of the bass inhaling the bait and before the bass decides to spit it out.

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My dad brought home a magazine the other day that had an article about bass having a "warning system" like it was discussing if they did or not

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My dad brought home a magazine the other day that had an article about bass having a "warning system" like it was discussing if they did or not

I do not know of a "warning system" that is a first for me as well, I do know they learn from their mistakes and can process some information like when preditors are close or when a food source is around.

I am interested in the artical however do you by chance know the name of the magazine ?

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I do not know of a "warning system" that is a first for me as well, I do know they learn from their mistakes and can process some information like when preditors are close or when a food source is around.

I am interested in the artical however do you by chance know the name of the magazine ?

They werent saying they did have a warning system they were just discussing if they thought they had one or not.And yes the magazine is called Bass Angler Magazine

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They werent saying they did have a warning system they were just discussing if they thought they had one or not.And yes the magazine is called Bass Angler Magazine

I knew what you were saying about the artical, I just found the topic interesting and wanted to read the discussion about weather they did or didn't.

Sorry if I came across differently.

Thanx for taking the time to get me the name of the mag.

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Catching a bass on plastic doesn't seem to stop the bite. Catch a mudfish (bowfin) on plastic and I might as well, and usually do, change it out. I have never caught a bass on a plastic that a mudfish hit.

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