Carrot Stix Wild Black Rods Any Advice

[gall]

i'm in the market for a new spinning rod and came across the carrot stix wild black it looks like a good rod and added bonus the micro guides but before i spend a 120 bucks i wanna know anyones input on it and find out if its worth the money or i should go a different route i preferably want a 6'6 m-mh rod with a split grip design not to worried about the whole micro guide but want good sensitivity and pretty good back bone any advice would be nice

[Bass Junkie]

One word.... Duckett.

[baluga]

Micro guide is not really good for spinning rods. The only advantage is lighter weight but it restricts the flow of that line from the spool to that smaller first ring guide. Thus shorter casting distance compared to the one's with regular size ring guides.

But if your going for casting rods with micro guides then that would make more sense.

IMHO

[gall]

yeah like i said im not to worried about the whole micro guide thing just want a good split grip spinning rod

[J Francho]

The only advantage is lighter weight but it restricts the flow of that line from the spool to that smaller first ring guide.

I haven't seen any micro guide spinning rods with a small gathering ring. In fact, they are all the same as regular spinning rods, just that the ring size gets smaller towards the tip of the blank.

[baluga]

I haven't seen any micro guide spinning rods with a small gathering ring. In fact, they are all the same as regular spinning rods, just that the ring size gets smaller towards the tip of the blank.

check the pix on this, it clearly shows that this way smaller that a regular first ring guide size. You can easily guestimate the size by matching it with the diameter of the reel seat lock screw

http://www.basspro.c...05012112/277174

now compare it with this one:

http://www.basspro.c...10210560/149410

[J Francho]

The Ducketts, Kistlers, and orange Carrot Stix I've seen in person didn't have guides that were any smaller than my regular Avid spinners.

That does look smaller, though. Not sure why they would do such a thing.

[webertime]

For the same $$$$ you could get a Lamiglas Excel. American made and a fantastic company behind them. A 663 or 664 would be what you're looking for. I have a 703 and LOVE that thing!

[Packard]

Micro guides actually benefit spinning rods more than casting rods. I don't personally use micro guides as of now though. I'd look into a Powell Max or Endurance which are on sale at TW. They are AMAZING rods especially when I got mine for $100!

[johnD.]

I looked at those e21 wild rods @ bass pro Saturday , one problem, that hook keeper hits right in the middle of your forearm ,on the spinning models..Like someone mentioned above the duckett rods are nice rods for the money all of the actions seem to be spot on.

[baluga]

Micro guides actually benefit spinning rods more than casting rods. I don't personally use micro guides as of now though. I'd look into a Powell Max or Endurance which are on sale at TW. They are AMAZING rods especially when I got mine for $100!

Could you please explain why would you say micro guides on this Carrot Stix Wild Black spinning rod

which has a smaller gathering ring more beneficial compared to using a standard size gathering ring ?

[gall]

thanks for the input about the rods i was looking at the duckett and they are pretty nice ill probably go with that one

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

I have rods both ways and really cant tell much difference to what the first guide size makes. The rod with smaller first guide casts great but the rod itself isnt all that sensitive $50 BPS. I use 1000 size reel with it. The rod in comparison is an Avid.

[Packard]

Could you please explain why would you say micro guides on this Carrot Stix Wild Black spinning rod

which has a smaller gathering ring more beneficial compared to using a standard size gathering ring ?

"Micro guides are even more of an advantage on spinning rods due to their usual lighter power. In any application the smallest lightest guide that will get the job done will allow the blank to retain more of it's design characteristics. The more weight you can reduce, especially from the tip, the better the rod will perform." Quoted from DVT.

[J Francho]

Yeah but...that gathering ring looks too small for any reel above a 1000 size. Maybe I'm wrong - I've never built a rod.