Ima Bass Ninja Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 The guy i give props to is the marshal with Ike. He was front row and center for Ike's meltdown and just kept doin his part even with poles flying and Ike's temper running at full capacity. Ike's a emotional competitor, is just the way he is. If i was the marshal i would have probably jumped outta the boat after the reel or at least marked the spot to go back and get it later
Super User SirSnookalot Posted December 19, 2011 Super User Posted December 19, 2011 Hey Snook, as soon as the guy mentioned Arnold Palmer you have known there was going to be a little attitude toward Jack Nicklaus. Arnie's Army had to watch this young upstart Nicklaus unseat the reigning champion of golf at that time. It was a hard pill to swallow when we witnessed it. Time has mellowed some of us, but you have to remember that there are folks who still view the civil war as a noble cause! The war against northern aggression...........
Frog Turds Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 if all the elite fisherman were all cookie cutter boring monotone copies of each other its would be like watching paint dry. i'd rather watch ike than any other out there. i'd also rather mike just be himself for good or bad than puttin on a fake @ss persona like others... why can't ike just be mike vs something hes not that others want him to be like...
Super User K_Mac Posted December 19, 2011 Super User Posted December 19, 2011 if all the elite fisherman were all cookie cutter boring monotone copies of each other its would be like watching paint dry. i'd rather watch ike than any other out there. i'd also rather mike just be himself for good or bad than puttin on a fake @ss persona like others... why can't ike just be mike vs something hes not that others want him to be like... I agree that Ike appeals to a demographic that the more traditional guys do not. As a result he has been good for the sport IMO. I also agree that he should not try to be anything he is not. His honesty is what makes him a favorite of many. With that said he still has a responsibility to the sport, the fans, the sponsors, and the other anglers to conduct himself in a professional way. Bad behavior cannot be justified with, "that is just Ike being Ike." I am often a loud, passionate, opionated, know it all. I believe this is part of my charm. "I am what I am" works to a point, but I will also confess I sometimes cross that line. When I do it is not charming or cool, it is wrong. That is also true for Iaconelli.
pitchin fool Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 Fishing is an individual sport, which makes failure that much worse. You don't have the team mate there to talk you down or help you out. When you lose, it's your loss, it's your fault, and sometimes that is hard to swallow. He chooses to get it out of his system on his own, on his own boat, with his own gear. When he is back at the landing, he greets his competitors and says good job. I am to bet my bank account if he was fishing with you and your kids, he would show all the outright respect you deserve. This is competition and losing sucks so curse, throw, and spit to get it out of the way and start thinking about the next tourney!!!
Super User senile1 Posted December 20, 2011 Super User Posted December 20, 2011 Fishing is an individual sport, which makes failure that much worse. You don't have the team mate there to talk you down or help you out. When you lose, it's your loss, it's your fault, and sometimes that is hard to swallow. He chooses to get it out of his system on his own, on his own boat, with his own gear. When he is back at the landing, he greets his competitors and says good job. I am to bet my bank account if he was fishing with you and your kids, he would show all the outright respect you deserve. This is competition and losing sucks so curse, throw, and spit to get it out of the way and start thinking about the next tourney!!! I don't really know what to think of Ike's behavior. Sometimes I think he needs to reel it in, and other times I don't. However, referring to the comment in red, if he would act this way on camera for all to see it doesn't matter how he would act back at the landing. All our children have to do is watch it on TV, YouTube, or the Internet. I sometimes think he should look at it as one would look at a social site like Facebook. You have to be careful what you put out there for everyone to see because some people may not understand or appreciate your behavior and it can come back to bite you later.
Super User SirSnookalot Posted December 21, 2011 Super User Posted December 21, 2011 A number of years ago Charles Barkley, a former outspoken NBA player, said he didn't want to be a role model. IMO any one in the public eye should act accordingly, young people are very impressionable.
pitchin fool Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 I have children and I find it my responsibility to teach my own kids what is right and wrong. Everyone has temper tantrums. They just don't show KVD sitting in his truck punching the steering wheel and yelling after a poor performance.
Super User senile1 Posted December 21, 2011 Super User Posted December 21, 2011 I have children and I find it my responsibility to teach my own kids what is right and wrong. Everyone has temper tantrums. They just don't show KVD sitting in his truck punching the steering wheel and yelling after a poor performance. It is our responsibility to teach our children right and wrong. My children are already adults and fortunately for me, didn't turn out too badly. When your children become adults they will make their own decisions. Some kids follow their parents direction and others do not. Some of the best parents have children that turned out to be not so good. And some children are better people because they didn't follow their parents poor instruction. So, in my opinion, it is important that the people children look up to try to be good role models. There will always be those who aren't, but it doesn't hurt to have positive role models other than parents. Some children do not have positive role models in their parents, so these people may be the only examples they have to show them another way. Having said that, no one is perfect. In such cases where we fail to set an example of good behavior, we should use that opportunity to set an example of remorse for our bad example and offer an apology. We all screw up but being truly remorseful for our shortcomings is the mark of a mature adult. I have no issues with Ike's excited demeanor and I have found him to be very engaging when he is teaching others. Getting hyped up and excited about fishing is one thing, but getting angry and breaking or tossing equipment is quite another.
bigbassctchr101 Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Ike is certainly entertaining, which is probably why I am a big fan of his. It's obviously not the right thing to do (break your rod and throw the rest of it into the water), but it sure makes for some good tv. We've all done stupid things that we later regret, but we were fortunate enough to not have cameras around to get it onto tape for everyone to see. I think this may have a little part in some of his tantrums...probably not this one, but more so on his fishing show. But, several guys on this forum have met Ike. Guys like him. He's a nice guy, a fun and caring person. He actually passed me on the interstate last week and threw up his hand and gave a big thumbs up when my boy held up an Alabama Rig lol. Listen to the way he talks about his family. I think he has a huge passion for fishing. And if you have a passion for anything you will get emotional with the highs and lows. And other than maybe golf??? I don't think you can find a sport that has as many highs and lows in the same day, same hour, or same cast. KVD has his fan base because he's a solid competitor, person, and shows great self control. But for the people that like Ike only because of seeing him on tv, its because he shows his love for it. Other people think he's cool because he yells at the fish, or dances in the boat. I think he's brought a lot of GOOD things to fishing and I think our sport has grown in a positive manner because of the publicity he's been able to shed. It may not all be good on his part...but who would watch Nascar if every car always made it across the finish line and there was never anything different or exciting to happen??? Same can now go for fishing. He can provide an example to many people....what to do...what not to do... Doesn't mean he's a bad person. Its not good to throw rods, its flat out stupid actually. But thats part of who he is and what he does. He's learned from it some; I don't think i've seen him bash his light poles and cuss out a limit of dead fish in quite some time. I think he knows his limit and knows where to push it now and I think it will continue to be a part of who he is. He seems like the type of guy that he doesn't really care if you like him or not anyway.
onion man Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 It was on earlier today but I had to leave half way through the show. Ike was leading by like 10 pounds. WTH happened? In Texas 10 pounds is one fish...
Super User 5bass Posted December 23, 2011 Super User Posted December 23, 2011 I have no issues with Ike's excited demeanor and I have found him to be very engaging when he is teaching others. Getting hyped up and excited about fishing is one thing, but getting angry and breaking or tossing equipment is quite another. I agree with you for the most part but put yourself in Ike's shoes. He had just had $100 grand snatched from underneath him. He's a very emotional guy as we all know and I can't say what I would've done if I would've been in his position. Who knows? And $100 grand would mean a whole lot more to me than it does Ike. It's okay to blow off steam every once in a while. Ike, coincidentally, has cameras on him when it happens.
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted December 23, 2011 Super User Posted December 23, 2011 In Texas 10 pounds is one fish... In some fishing a ten pound fish is called bait.
Super User Redlinerobert Posted December 28, 2011 Super User Posted December 28, 2011 For whatever reason my dvr did not record the final show. I'd like to see it!
Super User whitwolf Posted January 8, 2012 Super User Posted January 8, 2012 How about posting the link to the video? 1
Super User Redlinerobert Posted January 8, 2012 Super User Posted January 8, 2012 ok, after watching the video, I'd hardly call that a melt down. He broke a rod after losing the tourney with a 10 lb lead. If I lost after that much of a lead, I'd be upset too. I agree with the fact that h'e an emotional fisherman. Don't see anything wrong with it really.
scrutch Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Can't really criticize him for that. I'm just imagining myself in his shoes and I'm not sure I could have totally controlled myself either. It's gotta feel like somebody just stole something from you. He's ticked, give him a break. If you're worried about what your kids might say when they see that, use it as a teaching opportunity.
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 8, 2012 Super User Posted January 8, 2012 Actions like that should result in suspension or a fine........unsportsmanlike conduct.
Super User slonezp Posted January 8, 2012 Super User Posted January 8, 2012 Wait til he gets fined for showboating when he break dances on the deck of the boat.
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted January 8, 2012 Super User Posted January 8, 2012 Wait til he gets fined for showboating when he break dances on the deck of the boat. You mean like a penalty for excessive celebration in football, or raquet abuse in tennis when a player vents their anger/frustration by slamming their raquet on the ground?
Super User slonezp Posted January 8, 2012 Super User Posted January 8, 2012 You mean like a penalty for excessive celebration in football, or raquet abuse in tennis when a player vents their anger/frustration by slamming their raquet on the ground? Exactly
JIGFISHERMAN. Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Actions like that should result in suspension or a fine........unsportsmanlike conduct. WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. Let me see if I get this strait. When the guy on Erie offers to buy his co-anglers fish-A BLATANT FORM OF CHEATING, YOU DEFENDED HIM WITH SEVERAL POSTS. BUT THIS SHOULD BE A SUSPENSION OR FINE????? I'm sure I'm not the only one that would like to see this justified. If for no other reason than for entertainment purposes. 1
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 8, 2012 Super User Posted January 8, 2012 WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. Let me see if I get this strait. When the guy on Erie offers to buy his co-anglers fish-A BLATANT FORM OF CHEATING, YOU DEFENDED HIM WITH SEVERAL POSTS. BUT THIS SHOULD BE A SUSPENSION OR FINE????? I'm sure I'm not the only one that would like to see this justified. If for no other reason than for entertainment purposes. 2 totally different issues......not to rehash the past for the first case except to say my feelings haven't changed one iota, what some else chooses to do is their business. In the second case there is undisputable hard evidence of poor sportsmanship, not hearsay. I don't feel any sport or competition should just sluff it off as "having a moment", fines or suspensions would discourage those acts. That's how feel about it, if others feel different, again it's their business.
Fat-G Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 I love Ike, he's a great guy and very passionate. I actually think it was cool that he broke a rod on the boat haha. 1
VolFan Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 I think it's immature and that he does it to keep himself on people's minds and in the spotlight, but as a role model I don't think it matters one way or the other. A parent can use that as an example of unacceptable behavior and hope the kid recognizes what a DB Ike is being. His behavior is part of his brand, nothing more.
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