New Idea ?!?!?

[rowyourboat]

im not sure if anyone does this, or has tried this but i have a crazy idea...

has anyone ever tried using a fly on a split shot rig???

i was thinking of just tie'n a fly on and using a split shot about 15" above it.

thought it may be good for a tough day. obviously you could use larger or smaller flys, but just an idea...

any thoughts????

[basscrusher]

I've tried it. Broke off several flies that were hand-tied by a master, and stopped doing it. I occasionally use a fly on a drop-shot rig, which was talked about a few years ago but never really caught on (in the mainstream, at least.) You lose fewer doing that. I'm sure the split shot method will work though.

[.ghoti.]

Oh yeah. These:

http://www.flyshack.com/DisplayItem.aspx?ItemID=101937

[webertime]

I have used really big flies on a Drop Shot with some success.

To be honest though, ratio between the cost of the Fly and the catch numbers just don't don't make it really worth it for me.

IT does psyche some of my tournament competitors out when they see it on the rod prior to launch

[Lund Explorer]

You'll avoid the breakoffs that basscrusher was talking about if you rig up a little differently.

On your main line, slide on a small swivel so that it moves freely. Next, tie on a second swivel to the main line and then attach a leader of your choice and then the fly to the end of the leader. On the free moving swivel, attach a 6" length of four pound test line where you pinch on the split shot. If the sinker hangs up with this rig, it will either slide off or break the dropper line.

I use this same rigging for any bait when I want to use a splitshot rig.

[J Francho]

has anyone ever tried using a fly on a split shot rig???

Not exactly the same, but I've used a Casting Bubble from Rainbow plastics to fish a fly on spin gear.

Lund, why not just leave a long tag end on the mainline to the swivel knot, and attach the split shot there? That's how we rig our bottom bouncers for the salmon runs. You get caught in the river bottom, just yank, and the split shot slides off.

[Lund Explorer]

Not exactly the same, but I've used a Casting Bubble from Rainbow plastics to fish a fly on spin gear.

Lund, why not just leave a long tag end on the mainline to the swivel knot, and attach the split shot there? That's how we rig our bottom bouncers for the salmon runs. You get caught in the river bottom, just yank, and the split shot slides off.

It's actually the same basic rig I use for a lot of fishing presentations from splitshotting artificials to drift fishing live bait. Guess I just got used to fishing the rig and decided to stay with it for a number of applications. I also find that I like to have the option to use heavier weights where the fish can take line without feeling the weight. By trading out the swivel for a snap-swivel, you can attach a pencil weight too.

Side Benefit - A great setup for soaking spawn bags/smelt off the piers for browns or steelhead too. Just add the rubber band to the rod's handle, open the spool, and wait.

[J Francho]

Ok, I see. You do it that way so the fish can run with bait without detecting the weight.

[SirSnookalot]

Lund's explanation sounds a little like a " trolley rig", google it and you will probably get a visual.

I have used flies many times, I make no distinction between inshore salt and freshwater fishing, pretty much identical tactics.

Often times I use a " drop fly rig, for tarpon and snook, soft or hard jerkbait at bottom of leader, run a second leader off the main leader and attach a fly. I've done it for bass too using smaller baits and flies. On a real flat day with the wind at my back I can cast a fly far enough to find fish(I've got some flies with ball bearings for eyes, weight helps), have caught some nice snook in the surf. The reality is I think I'm better off using light bucktail, that kind of a jig is really nothing more than a fly with weight.

I have tried the split shot and the casting bubble with no real success.

[Lund Explorer]

Lund's explanation sounds a little like a " trolley rig", google it and you will probably get a visual.

I have used flies many times, I make no distinction between inshore salt and freshwater fishing, pretty much identical tactics.

Often times I use a " drop fly rig, for tarpon and snook, soft or hard jerkbait at bottom of leader, run a second leader off the main leader and attach a fly. I've done it for bass too using smaller baits and flies. On a real flat day with the wind at my back I can cast a fly far enough to find fish(I've got some flies with ball bearings for eyes, weight helps), have caught some nice snook in the surf. The reality is I think I'm better off using light bucktail, that kind of a jig is really nothing more than a fly with weight.

I have tried the split shot and the casting bubble with no real success.

Not so much a trolley rig in that the dropper line for the weight is much shorter than the leader. Remember that for years, Michigan didn't even allow us to use a drop shot rig. Still not allowed in designated trout waters. The best way I can explain it is to have you imagine the rig using a three-way swivel, and then replace that with two straight swivels with one of them hanging freely above the other.

This is a great rig for rocky water, and also where you have low grass/weeds that you want your bait to stay above. I use this rig for most of my live bait presentations when I'm going after walleye. For bass, try using a floating jighead stuffed into a tube, or a nose hooking a small 4" plastic worm for another way to show bass something they don't see very often.

[SirSnookalot]

This is a typical trolley rig, very commonly used down here off piers, there are variations. I'm no expert as I'm not a bait fisherman and never have fished off a pier. When I hear guys talking using them I was curious how it was set up. The yellow item is a bead, just used as a buffer. I do remember my Michigan days as kid fishing with my dad, we used 3 way swivels quite a bit with live bait.

http://www.google.co...=1t:429,r:9,s:8

[topwaterbob]

I used to drift fish muddler minnows with a split shot for walleye. Never caught a bass but did catch a lot of walleyes and some catfish.

[Randall]

I use a fly just made for dropshotting. It's deadly sometimes when fish turn off of normal dropshot and spoon presentations and are tougher to catch or when they are feeding on small shad. I even cast it out to schoolers or fish feeding on fry in early summer when the size of baitfish can be small. This is a local guy who makes the ones I use. http://www.redroostercustombaits.com/flies.html The dropshot flies are at the bottom of the page.