Nfl "unnecessary Roughness " Just Ridiculous !

[A-Jay]

This is just TOO MUCH - IT'S F O O T B A L L ! !

The fundamental concept of the game is built on Unnecessary Roughness !

It's just hard to watch - forget about enjoying it.

A-Jay

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Preaching to the choir Brother. That penalty for the Brady hit, was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

[A-Jay]

Yup and I'm a Pats Fan !

A-Jay

[VolFan]

I was wondering if anyone else saw that flag. I hate the Pats and Skins equally, and think Harrison's (Stiller) hits have no place in the game, but that was a clean hit on a guy just starting to go down. Totally assinine that got flagged, and it was a huge help to the Pats.

[Grey Wolf]

Their going to protect "THE STARS".

[Hyrule Bass]

that game was horribly officiated all the way around. lots of bad calls and missed calls...

[detroit1]

Didn't see it yet, but i will tonite. As far as officiating goes...i think they try to do the best job they can. Pro football IS A VERY FAST GAME, and penalties occur on every play. If they could see in slow motion and see through bodies with 360 degree vision, they might get it right. And they keep adding new rules that are very hard to officiate. Like all sports, the stars get a little bit of special attention, thats the way it has always been, and always will be. Doesn't mean we have to like it though....

[Marty]

The fundamental concept of the game is built on Unnecessary Roughness !

Maybe it's just a matter of semantics, but the game is rough and violent, but has not been built on "unnecessary roughness." That penalty has been around for as long as I can remember. What seems to have happened is they have redefined "unnecessary", much to the chagrin of many fans, players and ex-players.

[Fishing Rhino]

It's interesting that over the years basketball has gotten much more physical. Used to be if you leaned on someone, or even touched them, it was a foul. Now, they push and shove each other around much like linemen in football. Football on the other hand is on its way to becoming a dainty game.

[Grey Wolf]

I will bet that none of you boys has ever been flattened by a 250 lb. linebacker. :dazed-7:

[Fishing Rhino]

I will bet that none of you boys has ever been flattened by a 250 lb. linebacker. :dazed-7:

In my case, you are correct. But, then again, why would I want to be flattened by a 250 pound linebacker?

[Grey Wolf]

In my case, you are correct. But, then again, why would I want to be flattened by a 250 pound linebacker?

Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!

[deaknh03]

It's interesting that over the years basketball has gotten much more physical. Used to be if you leaned on someone, or even touched them, it was a foul. Now, they push and shove each other around much like linemen in football. Football on the other hand is on its way to becoming a dainty game.

I beg to differ, during the late 80s it was brutal, especially the Pistons, but almost every team had their guy or guys who would push you around.

[Fishing Rhino]

I beg to differ, during the late 80s it was brutal, especially the Pistons, but almost every team had their guy or guys who would push you around.

I'm going back to the 50s and 60s, when if you dribbled and your hand was in contact with the ball above your waist it was palming the ball. You couldn't even "hand check" an opposing player, let alone get into a shoving contest with them. The three second rule seems to have become the three minute rule for an offensive player loitering in the bucket. On foul shots, you couldn't cross the side lines until the ball contacted the backboard or the rim, now you can get into the bucket as soon as the ball leaves the shooters hand.

You could not lean on another player to improve your rebounding position, nor could the player with the ball back into the defender to force him out of position. The Pistons with Bill Lambier (sp?) were notorious for being a dirty team. I think they'd be pansies in today's league. It's a good thing for Bill that Shack wasn't around then. He'd have thought he was run over by a three hundred pound linebacker. I don't know if you were around when Johnny Most announced the Celtics radio games, but he was an atrociously biased announcer. He'd whine incessantly about the Pistons saying such things as the refs won't call a foul on the Pistons unless the Celtic is bleeding.

It was during that era that it began to take muscle as well as skill to survive and excel. Before that it was far less physical and more finesse.

[deaknh03]

I'm going back to the 50s and 60s, when if you dribbled and your hand was in contact with the ball above your waist it was palming the ball. You couldn't even "hand check" an opposing player, let alone get into a shoving contest with them. The three second rule seems to have become the three minute rule for an offensive player loitering in the bucket. On foul shots, you couldn't cross the side lines until the ball contacted the backboard or the rim, now you can get into the bucket as soon as the ball leaves the shooters hand.

You could not lean on another player to improve your rebounding position, nor could the player with the ball back into the defender to force him out of position. The Pistons with Bill Lambier (sp?) were notorious for being a dirty team. I think they'd be pansies in today's league. It's a good thing for Bill that Shack wasn't around then. He'd have thought he was run over by a three hundred pound linebacker. I don't know if you were around when Johnny Most announced the Celtics radio games, but he was an atrociously biased announcer. He'd whine incessantly about the Pistons saying such things as the refs won't call a foul on the Pistons unless the Celtic is bleeding.

It was during that era that it began to take muscle as well as skill to survive and excel. Before that it was far less physical and more finesse.

I agree, and that was why Wilt was such a force. His size and the change in the way the game was played and officiated made him look like he had superpower.