(='_'=) Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 hey. today i accidentally dropped my rod and reel to the water... i was not deep, in fact i grabbed it while it was in the air, but i believe the reel went under water.... its a Quantum baitcasting reel.... i continued using it, and it was casting as normal as always, the same distance, everything seemed ok... but on the retireve, i heard a sound, which i believe the reel didnt make before getting all wet. my other Quantum doesnt makes that noise. so, what should you do when a reel goes under water?? i believe the grease, if any, could be washed away or something?? shoudl i remove the sideplate and oil the bearings or something?? or should everything be OK?? thanx!! Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted December 11, 2011 Super User Posted December 11, 2011 wrong.the reel should be completely dissasembbled cleaned and relubed. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 11, 2011 Global Moderator Posted December 11, 2011 I would at the very least take it apart and let it dry but would rather clean and relube the reel. You've spent hard earned money to buy the reel, might as well take the time to take it apart and clean it throughly so it will continue to work for you down the road. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted December 11, 2011 Super User Posted December 11, 2011 hey. today i accidentally dropped my rod and reel to the water... i was not deep, in fact i grabbed it while it was in the air, but i believe the reel went under water.... its a Quantum baitcasting reel.... i continued using it, and it was casting as normal as always, the same distance, everything seemed ok... but on the retireve, i heard a sound, which i believe the reel didnt make before getting all wet. my other Quantum doesnt makes that noise. so, what should you do when a reel goes under water?? i believe the grease, if any, could be washed away or something?? shoudl i remove the sideplate and oil the bearings or something?? or should everything be OK?? thanx!! The reel should be broken down completely, deep cleaned to remove any foreign debris and old lubrication.Then properly re-lubricated and properly re-assembled. Don't take any chances, get it done properly..................... Good Luck & Tight Lines! Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 x2 especially since you're hearing noise Quote
(='_'=) Posted December 11, 2011 Author Posted December 11, 2011 ok, thanx!! and whats the proper way to take it apart and relube it?? i removed the sideplate and noticed that i can remove the spool and all the shaft. but then?? what else should i take appart?? and where do i have to lube it? are there specific locations, or just on the bearings?? Quote
Super User .RM. Posted December 11, 2011 Super User Posted December 11, 2011 If you have never taken one down then IMPO get it done properly, don't take the chance of losing/breaking any parts, you should send it in.........Contact Mike (DVT) Tight Lines Quote
Packard Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 If you have never taken one down then IMPO get it done properly, don't take the chance of losing/breaking any parts, you should send it in.........Contact Mike (DVT) Tight Lines He is in Mexico so sending it to DVT would be costly. I think you should find a schematic for your reel and maybe watch a few videos of experts disassembling reels. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted December 11, 2011 Super User Posted December 11, 2011 Now that the reel has dried out is it still making noise? It sounds like you are not sure if it even was in the water? .RM. and DVT are two of the experts here and I respect their opinion, but in my opinion getting a reel wet is not a big deal. I have fished in the rain many times with several reels on deck. If a reel getting soaked killed them, I would not have one working reel. If it continues to make noise then you will need to tear it down, send it in, or take it someplace local. Do not do it yourself unless you have a schematic in front of you, and are comfortable with the process after watching a couple of YouTube videos. Just my opinion. Good luck. Quote
Packard Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 Now that the reel has dried out is it still making noise? It sounds like you are not sure if it even was in the water? .RM. and DVT are two of the experts here and I respect their opinion, but in my opinion getting a reel wet is not a big deal. I have fished in the rain many times with several reels on deck. If a reel getting soaked killed them, I would not have one working reel. If it continues to make noise then you will need to tear it down, send it in, or take it someplace local. Do not do it yourself unless you have a schematic in front of you, and are comfortable with the process after watching a couple of YouTube videos. Just my opinion. Good luck. I have never had a problem with wet reels either. I think you might need to lubricate the spool bearing and shaft at most. A noise is prevalent on almost all reels though so don't worry about it. Quote
(='_'=) Posted December 11, 2011 Author Posted December 11, 2011 thanx! as mentioned earlier, im not sure if the reel was under water, since as the rod was flying down i reached out and grabbed it. the handle was under water but i dont know if the reel too.... that happened yesterday, and i continued using it after the accident. i heard a noise that is not present on my other reel. but i havent tried it now that it is dry, so i dont know if it still has the noise. i think ill lube the spool bearings and shaft and see what happens. i feel very comfortable taking things appart and building them back again, so as long as i have a diagram, i think i can do it without a problem. i would propably send it if i was in the US, but living in Mexico, i prefer to do it myself and learn for next time... thanx!! Quote
Super User .RM. Posted December 12, 2011 Super User Posted December 12, 2011 When you make up your mind as to whether or not the reel did/didn't get wet. I stand by my remarks if you have never broken one down (especially Quantum) then send that Quantum in. You probably don't have any of the grease or oils that were originally used at time of manufacturing. Don't take the chance contact DVT and get it done properly............ Mike (DVT) if you are down south get your butt back into the shop and take care of these folks.... Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted December 12, 2011 Super User Posted December 12, 2011 There is a difference between getting a reel wet from rain and having it get dropped into a lake too. Don't know how old the reel is but doesn't sound like they have been cleaned so probably a good idea whether it made it into the water or not. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 You can expect a reel to get wet during normal use but a dunking is another matter. Even in what appears to be clear water there are fine contaminants and it doesn't take much to gum up close tolerances. Also the water and oil/grease can emulsify rendering the lube nearly useless. Shipping to and from Mexico is pricey no doubt about it. (about $23 each way by PO website estimate). RM is right, Quantums can be a real bear to work on. Which ever way you decide to go, let me know if I can help. Quote
(='_'=) Posted December 13, 2011 Author Posted December 13, 2011 thanx a lot for your help!! the reel is almost new, about 5 months old... indeed, it has never been lubed or anything. and, i know i have never taken a reel apart, but, when am i going to learn how to do it, if i never open one because i have never opened one?? not to be an *** or anything, is just that im used to fixing my own stuff. besides, shipping to the US and then back to Mexico wont be to far from the cost of a new reel.... i have a reel lubricant, cant remember the name, but ill look it up and see if that helps... if not, i prefer investing in the lubes i need so i can lube my and my friends other reels... i know if i keep fishing i will probably drop another reel in the water, so i prefer to learn how to do it now.... so far i just removed the side plate and cleaned the shaft and bearing with a Q tip to remove the grease. i saw a clip that i would have to remove to take out another bearing, but i didnt do that. as long as there are no hidden springs that will launch without me knowing where they go, i think i can start taking pieces out, cleaning them and putting them back on.... i have been taking small 2 stroke motors apart and putting them back on for some time now, so i enjoy doing it and i believe i can do it right. what i really dont know is where to put oil, where to put grease, and where to clean and leave as it is. thanx!! Quote
Packard Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Obviously rain water and lake water are different, we didn't need you to tell us that. He isn't even sure that the reel was under water and if it was it was for half a second. I do believe that if it was under water for a longer period of time that you should get it taken care of by a professional like DVT but in this case it is not needed. Quote
(='_'=) Posted December 13, 2011 Author Posted December 13, 2011 yes, in case it was under water, i would say it was for 1/2 second at most as i quickly retrieved the rod... i know it can still wash out lubricants and such, but i would think a product meant to be used on the water with high probability of being submerged, would at least have some protection. sealed bearings at least. thanx1 Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted December 13, 2011 Super User Posted December 13, 2011 Sounds to me as if you really don't think its a big deal.If that's the case , don't worry about it but I WOULD HAVE IT CLEANED ONCE EVERY YEAR at least by someone who knows what their doing. JUST SAYING Quote
(='_'=) Posted December 14, 2011 Author Posted December 14, 2011 thanx wolf... im not really sure if its a great deal or not, thats why i want to know what to do.... and, as mentioned earlier, i would prefer to do it myself... i like fixing my own stuff, i fixed my outboard, completely wired another boat we had, fix as much as i can on my jeep.... i just dont feel like paying someone for doing what i can do, and im sure after i know how to do it, i will do it with more attention since its MY stuff and im not on a schedule or something.... Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Reels are designed and built to perform in conditions expected during fishing. Although it can happen, complete submersion is not "normal" use. Bearings come with shields, not seals. Waiting until you see symptoms means damage is already being done. The reel in question needs cleaning and re-lubing. Get your hands on either some Cals or Shimano drag grease and use it on the drag and gears. The Shimano oil that came with the reel will suffice for the bearings and level wind. Down load a schematic and have it handy. Keep in mind that it is primarily a parts list and does not necessarily show the order of dis/reassembly. Take your time. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted December 15, 2011 Super User Posted December 15, 2011 . but on the retireve, i heard a sound, which i believe the reel didnt make before getting all wet. my other Quantum doesnt makes that noise. I'm assuming this reel is a Quantum if it is a PT series reel I would advise the use of the Hot Sauce brand for it. They are built with a Teflon coated Hybrid bearings. They respond better to the Quantum lubrication, than Shimano or Daiwa' lubes as I have found. Watch how you disassemble the reels as they don't brake down like the Japanese reels do ... Any way you look at it your going to need the schematic for the reel and really well lighted work area. Good Luck.. Tight Lines All! Quote
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