Get Rid Of This Bcs Crap

[jignfule]

I am sick and tried of this stupid BcS scheme in college football. Get a play off system and with just a couple extra games a year put a stop to all this curupted BS. Signed, TCU,BSU,OSU,KSU(for this year) just look at the big money BcS bowl games, look at the teams records and rankings and tell me it makes sense, it's just all about the money. The existing bowl system is mundane and boring for the most part. I look forward to March Madness because that system works. The BcS has always been broken, time to take the trash out.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

I'll second you on that. The fans are finally starting to stand up and be vocal about it. It won't be long brother. The BCS will be gone in a few years time. It's been a long time coming, and is within our grasp now. Just have to be patient for a little while longer.

[Bass_Fanatic]

The BCS is the best ranking system college football has ever seen. Do you want to go back to using 2 seperate polls where at the end of the year there can be/will be 2 seperate national champions. A playoff system is not practical in college football. The reason the BCS works is because it forces teams that want a shot at a National Championship to schedule tough games (LSU vs Oregon), and win during the regular season. The BCS is not the problem. It is an unbias computer that ranks teams based on numbers, which never lie. The problems lie within the rules of the BCS bowl games. They have to get 2 non-BCS automatic bids in there and can only have 2 from a conference. Everybody knows the SEC deserved 3 in the BCS bowl games this year (LSU, BAMA, Arkansas). The automatic bids from conferences is what is a joke (Clemson and West Virginia). I think it should be #1 vs #2 for the National Title. #3 vs #4 for a BCS game. #5 vs. #6 for a BCS game. And #7 vs. #8 for a BCS game. Clemson, Michigan, VT, and West Virginia DO NOT deserve to be in there this year.

[NorcalBassin]

BCS is generally fine for the 1 v 2 championship game, but there is no way teams down in the teens that didn't win their league should jump over top 10 schools like Arkansas, Boise St, and Kansas St.

[Sam]

The BCS may be chaning in the future. Stay tuned.

As for the bowl bids, the BCS bowls are locked in by contract with various conferences.

Should an agreement allow the bowl to take other teams outside of their contractual obligations they will do so by selecting the teams that travel best.

For example, Jaw-Ja can't get a BCS bid so the Sugar Bowl selected Michigan and Virginia Tech as their fans travel to their bowl games and NOLA will have a great out-of-town turnout.

Clepson gets the booby prize by heading back to Miami and the slums to play in the Orange Bowl against the Cousins. A "who cares?" game. The Orange Bowl has to get out of their agreement with the Big Least so they can have a great game, like Clepson vs. Jaw-Ja.

The Rose Bowl wants to make sure they can keep their Big Ten-PAC 12 agreement but they are willing to select other teams if the Big 10 or PAC 12 champion gets the BCS bid to play in the National Championship.

Money. Follow the money. Cities, bowls and conferences want the money.

So to answer your query, yes - the bowls will take the teams they have to by contract but if possible they will try to select other teams that travel well if they have the option.

I hope to make it to NOLA for the BCS Championship this year. I went in 2007 and had a great time. But I am from NOLA so we know where to go to avoid the crowds and get some great food and stay out of jail!!!

[Grey Wolf]

The BCS is the best ranking system college football has ever seen. Do you want to go back to using 2 seperate polls where at the end of the year there can be/will be 2 seperate national champions. A playoff system is not practical in college football. The reason the BCS works is because it forces teams that want a shot at a National Championship to schedule tough games (LSU vs Oregon), and win during the regular season. The BCS is not the problem. It is an unbias computer that ranks teams based on numbers, which never lie. The problems lie within the rules of the BCS bowl games. They have to get 2 non-BCS automatic bids in there and can only have 2 from a conference. Everybody knows the SEC deserved 3 in the BCS bowl games this year (LSU, BAMA, Arkansas). The automatic bids from conferences is what is a joke (Clemson and West Virginia). I think it should be #1 vs #2 for the National Title. #3 vs #4 for a BCS game. #5 vs. #6 for a BCS game. And #7 vs. #8 for a BCS game. Clemson, Michigan, VT, and West Virginia DO NOT deserve to be in there this year.

If a playoff system is not practical , why is it the the smaller colleges have been doing it successively for years ? Just pointing out the obivous.

[BrianinMD]

It will only go away if they can find another way to make more $, college football is about nothing else. If you have any doubts look at the conferences now, a playoff is not feasible but going halfway across the country for "conference" games is?

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

If a playoff system is not practical , why is it the the smaller colleges have been doing it successively for years ? Just pointing out the obivous.

Eliminate automatic qualifiers. Winners of bowl games into into a playoff.

Bowl games are played two weeks after the end of the last game of the year. Start the season 1 week earlier.

[nick76]

It isn't just the computers that are impractical. The fact that Coaches get to vote themselves where they belong in the polls is wrong. That is no different then voting yourself in a raise. Take for instance Alabama, Saban voted OSU down to the 4th spot in the poll just so that gave himself a little more wiggle room at the top (he is not the only one who did this, just the easiest example). You could easily make the playoff system work by simply leaving the bowls as an after thought or use the bowls as the quarter finals, semi-finals, and the final game. The notion that kids players would miss too much school is hilarious. The bowl season already extends 3 weeks as it is. Heck, we already have about 60+ teams going to some form of a "bowl" game anyhow. Might as well make it a playoff and we can truly decide who wins.

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

Agreed on the coaches vote. Lots of finagling went on there I'm sure. Not only from Saban, but from David Shaw too. I'm sure he would rather play OSU than Alabama. That was probably another 4th place vote for OSU.

The biggest reason for a playoff. I can see Alabama winning this game, but a point or two.....Then what?

FWIW I watched probably half of the Alabama/LSU game, and to me, Alabama looked like the better team.

[Ima Bass Ninja]

No matter how you do it there will always be people that aren't happy with the system. Doesn't matter if its a playoff or the current BCS. Am i happy with the system....no.....title game is just a rematch, been there done that ,Alabama lost lets move on. Now if they win the BIG game LSU fans are gonna start crying about how they beat 'em the first time and they should not have had to play them again..not to mention the fact that LSU had to play and extra game(hows that fair??? seems like Bama made out better by losing) ...just more controversy to college football.

[Chris at Tech]

I thought the BCS motto was "every game counts". It needs to be changed to "most games count, and we're SEC homers"

[BrianinMD]

Just further proof college football is about nothing but money, San Diego State and Boise State in the "Big East"

http://tracking.si.com/2011/12/06/big-east-adds-boise-state-houston-smu-and-san-diego-state/?sct=hp_t2_a4&eref=sihp

[Fishing Rhino]

The nightmare at Penn State proved a college football winning program takes precedence over scholastic accomplishments or ethics and integrity.

Colleges are, scratch that, colleges should be about providing an education to prepare students to better face the day to day grind or working, paying bills, and providing for their families. That coaches make many times what a dean makes is disgraceful. Football is just a game, an extra curricular activity. It's called extra curricular for a reason.

Penn State is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to colleges having their priorities out of whack. You need look no futher than all the rules and regs that exist to keep collegiate football programs on the up and up. Yet it is common knowledge that the rules which apply to the rest of the student body are often "waived" for the better athletes.

What does it matter in the overall scheme of things who's number one in football or basketball?

[J Francho]

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[5bass]

I'm a fan of Virginia Tech and I dont think they deserve to be in a BCS game this year. It's a 'money thing', that's all there is to it.

The title game rematch with Bama and LSU isn't solving anything. If Bama wins, big deal. LSU should own 1/2 of the trophy as well.

[Grey Wolf]

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The greed for money is truly the root of all evil.

[jignfule]

If a playoff system is not practical , why is it the the smaller colleges have been doing it successively for years ? Just pointing out the obivous.

Rest assured that if they thought they could make more money with a play off system, they would easily find a way to make it practical. It would be easy, no problem.

[Fishing Rhino]

The greed for money is truly the root of all evil.

Not quite right, but close enough. It will be interesting to see what shakes out at Penn State at the end of the day. That suspicion, or info that child molesting was "ignored" so as not to upset the applecart in their football program is nothing short of disgusting.

It serves to show what depths of depravity some will go to for the dollars a top athletic team, particularly in football can provide for an institution.

It's no mystery, and certainly no surprise that recruiters will push the envelope to get a letter of intent from legitimate football and basketball stars. There are countless creative ways to skirt the rules, not only for recruiting, but also for rewarding certain student athletes. Situational ethics was the intellectual's way of saying the ends justify the means.

[NorcalBassin]

Only way this changes sooner than later is if at least 3 traditional powerhouses from the big conferences go unbeaten and one of them is on the outside looking in. Something along the lines of undefeated LSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and USC would be beautiful just to see the BCS apologists squirm.

A +1 system is not quite enough and the round of 16 like 1-AA is too much. Have the top 8 play each other... only adds two games to the season and a heck of a lot more $$$.

[Bass_Fanatic]

Only way this changes sooner than later is if at least 3 traditional powerhouses from the big conferences go unbeaten and one of them is on the outside looking in. Something along the lines of undefeated LSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and USC would be beautiful just to see the BCS apologists squirm.

A +1 system is not quite enough and the round of 16 like 1-AA is too much. Have the top 8 play each other... only adds two games to the season and a heck of a lot more $$$.

That already happened...2004. Oklahoma, USC, and Auburn all undefeated. Auburn was left out of the title game.

[Root beer]

The "Alabama didn't win their conference, therefore shouldn't be in the BCS" argument is kind of dumb. The BCS rules stated #1 and #2 is to play in the title game. They never added an exception about #1 and #2 being in the same conference.(obviously they didn't believe it was a big deal.) If Michigan was #2 in 2006, we would have saw a rematch of two teams from same conference. Saban wasn't the only coach that left OSU at #4 or lower... The BCS does have human factors into it. It not a perfect system and it what we have in place, so really the only arguments I want to read or hear is about how to change the system rather than hearing someone complain about them being from same conference for this game. I believe that rule can never be change, because it's possible for the two best teams to reside in the same conference and the same division. If it was two other teams from same conference playing in the same game this year, I wouldn't be complaining.

Does the FBS system have more colleges than the lower leagues? That might explain why there a lack of playoff. the SEC has advocate a change in the BCS before, but some other conferences were against it. I'm not going to mention names, but I bet one of those conference is now crying foul about the BCS now when he was against any changes years ago....

Hey, the current SEC commissioner tried to change the system years ago, don't blame the SEC:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3375611&sportCat=ncf

[NorcalBassin]

That already happened...2004. Oklahoma, USC, and Auburn all undefeated. Auburn was left out of the title game.

True but Auburn was not considered a power back then (started outside of the top 15 and did not have a Cam Newton type figure) and the SEC was hardly what it is today. That same scenario this year would have been a much bigger deal.