jmed999 Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I'm trying to use one of these... Tiny Minnow it's only like 3/32 oz. My question is how do I cast it far out? I was using a 6'-6" MH rod with 10# test on a Curado 200E7. I can't get it to go out more than a few feet. What am I doing wrong??? Thanks! Quote
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jmed999 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 Would a Ducket 7' med-lt spinning rod work? Can you suggest a reel for less than $100? Thanks!!! Quote
Super User deep Posted November 23, 2011 Super User Posted November 23, 2011 Any rod that the lure can "load up" will work. The lure weight rating on the rod should also provide some sort of idea. 1 Quote
Super User tomustang Posted November 23, 2011 Super User Posted November 23, 2011 I'm trying to use one of these... Tiny Minnow it's only like 3/32 oz. My question is how do I cast it far out? I was using a 6'-6" MH rod with 10# test on a Curado 200E7. I can't get it to go out more than a few feet. What am I doing wrong??? Thanks! I've thrown those and 1/16 jigs on my main setup, I'm lucky to hit 30' max sometimes, accuracy is out the window and have many backlashes You need a ultralight reel (not cheap at all), 6lb line, and a Med-Lite rod for better results Quote
jmed999 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 I've thrown those and 1/16 jigs on my main setup, I'm lucky to hit 30' max sometimes, accuracy is out the window and have many backlashes You need a ultralight reel (not cheap at all), 6lb line, and a Med-Lite rod for better results Would a Shimano Sprirex FG 1000 work??? Quote
Super User deep Posted November 23, 2011 Super User Posted November 23, 2011 Would a Shimano Sprirex FG 1000 work??? I'm sure it would. All a spinning reel does- while casting- is let out line. I have a Sonora 2500 that has held up to two years of pretty extensive use. You want to check the line capacity though. 1000 size is pretty much ultralight territory. Quote
jmed999 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 I'm sure it would. All a spinning reel does- while casting- is let out line. I have a Sonora 2500 that has held up to two years of pretty extensive use. You want to check the line capacity though. 1000 size is pretty much ultralight territory. Isn't that what I want...ultralight? I'm thinking about using 4-6 lb test. Thanks! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 23, 2011 Super User Posted November 23, 2011 Isn't that what I want...ultralight? I'm thinking about using 4-6 lb test. That is typical finesse tackle. A 2500 series reel on a medium or medium light power rod. Ultra light can mean a few things, though generally its ULTRA light, as in 1-3 lb. line. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted November 23, 2011 Super User Posted November 23, 2011 I'm amazed you can even cast it on a MH rod...LOL I use 1000-2000 type reels with a medium light rod.Spinning only. I can't do baitcaster that light....I'll spend more time picking out backlashes than I would casting the thing. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 23, 2011 Super User Posted November 23, 2011 I'm trying to use one of these... Tiny Minnow it's only like 3/32 oz. My question is how do I cast it far out? I was using a 6'-6" MH rod with 10# test on a Curado 200E7. I can't get it to go out more than a few feet. What am I doing wrong??? Thanks! Conventional thinking is to use spinning outfits with lures under 3/16 oz, however with todays close tolerance reels, like the reel you have, you can go down to 6 lb mono or FC without any casting problems. Match you 200E7 with good premium 6 lb mono and a 3 power 7' medium fast action casting rod like Lamiglas* XL-703 ($110) and you can cast 60' OK with small crank baits. Spinning outfit requires both a rod and reel; 7' 2 power like a Lamiglas XL-702S ($110) and Shimano Sadona 2500FD reel ($50)and 6 lb Trilene XL mono ($7). Tom * good quality USA made, life time warranty, any good rod brand with similar specs will work. Quote
NateFollmer Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 You need a ultralight reel (not cheap at all), 6lb line, and a Med-Lite rod for better results I've been using a Diawa Crossfire from Cabela's for years now... Only cost me $40 for the combo. Probably one of the best combos I have ever used. I'd say that's pretty cheap Quote
Super User tomustang Posted November 23, 2011 Super User Posted November 23, 2011 I've been using a Diawa Crossfire from Cabela's for years now... Only cost me $40 for the combo. Probably one of the best combos I have ever used. I'd say that's pretty cheap Well as spinning goes, there many options Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 23, 2011 Global Moderator Posted November 23, 2011 I fish baits down to 1/32oz on a 6'8" M/L shimano crucial DS rod with a 1000 Shimano Symetre and 6lb test. I can cast a bait the size you are describing way further than I can set a hook effectivly with it Quote
Super User deep Posted November 23, 2011 Super User Posted November 23, 2011 3/32 oz is what? like a little lighter than 1/8 oz? I use a Cabela's house special ultralight rod and a cheapo walmart abu garcia reel. Works just fine for me, with a little maintenance. Any rod that the lure can load will work. Any reel that lasts a while should work too. You're throwing a tiny crankbait, and don't need a very expensive setup (sensitivity). IMO. 1 Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted November 24, 2011 Super User Posted November 24, 2011 Would a Ducket 7' med-lt spinning rod work? Can you suggest a reel for less than $100? Thanks!!! SKBM rating 3/32 = .09375 All 6 of the ones I have are lighter around .082-.086oz like 1/12oz. On my bc and 7' MF Smoke rod I get 35-40' but lots of thumbing. Spinning Ive use small Pflueger Presidents the 20 size on a 4'6" ul St croix Premier & 8'ML Mod Avid with Stradic 1000. My co-worker has the Spirex 2500 dont know the rod and the Bitsy minnow works well with but always seems to have bail issues yet keeps buying another Spirex like 5 now. So check the Pflueger Presidents they are around $50-$60 and very nice reels. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted November 24, 2011 Super User Posted November 24, 2011 I probably see guys tossing light lures like crappie jigs with mh or hvy rods couple of dozens times a day, if I'm at one of the jetties. Bear in mind these are people looking for a meal for their families but this is how they do it and they catch lots of fish. 1. Small egg weight 1/4 oz on top or the lure 2. Egg weight on main line, swivel, leader to a light jig. 3. Snap swivel on mainline, small bank sinker on the swivel and leader to bait. If I were to do it for freshwater fishing at water level, lighter equipment would be my first choice, if not try a split shot or 2 and place them about 15" above the lure. Your lure may run a little bit deeper but I don't think all that much. Quote
The one that got away Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I've been ridiculously satisfied with a 6ft St. Croix Triumph light action spinning rod, matched with a $29 Shimano Sienna reel spooled with 6lb Trilene XL. Whole set up for under $100. I bought it a few months ago for trout fishing. It would work perfectly to throw light baits like you mentioned. 1 Quote
Pegwedge Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I did ultralight on the cheap because I wasn't sure if I was going to like it or not. I got one of the small Pflueger Presidents and one of the cheapo 6'6" BPS Micro Lite fiberglass rods at the local shop. The little President is awesome. I put it through its paces this summer on a decent smallmouth stream and it never gave me the least bit of trouble. The rod, while not exactly great, isn't bad. I actually kinda like it. It had problems coming apart (they only come in two pieces unless you get the 5' one) till I fixed it, literally, with some epoxy. Hard to beat for $20. I love ultralight fishing now, and although I haven't caught anything too big, I've caught a lot and I enjoy catching a lot of dinks compared to one big fish. Well, at least for a while. And that kinda comes with the ultralight territory. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted November 25, 2011 Super User Posted November 25, 2011 Ultra light gear makes small fish seem bigger, I think the small ones put up a better fight than the larger ones. I'm using the lightest equipment I can get away with, only time I go a heavier is hoisting them out of a high banked canal or pulling them out of heavy cover. If I'm fishing heavy lily pads I'm sure not going ultra light. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted November 25, 2011 Super User Posted November 25, 2011 I probably see guys tossing light lures like crappie jigs with mh or hvy rods couple of dozens times a day, if I'm at one of the jetties. Bear in mind these are people looking for a meal for their families but this is how they do it and they catch lots of fish. 1. Small egg weight 1/4 oz on top or the lure 2. Egg weight on main line, swivel, leader to a light jig. 3. Snap swivel on mainline, small bank sinker on the swivel and leader to bait. If I were to do it for freshwater fishing at water level, lighter equipment would be my first choice, if not try a split shot or 2 and place them about 15" above the lure. Your lure may run a little bit deeper but I don't think all that much. I see those guys too, though they use a rig like this Quote
Super User tomustang Posted November 25, 2011 Super User Posted November 25, 2011 I've been ridiculously satisfied with a 6ft St. Croix Triumph light action spinning rod, matched with a $29 Shimano Sienna reel spooled with 6lb Trilene XL. Whole set up for under $100. I bought it a few months ago for trout fishing. It would work perfectly to throw light baits like you mentioned. I did something similar, 5' premier and a sienna, but the sienna didn't last a year. Bought a Sahara 1000 to fix that. The siennas are nice but they can't take too much abuse Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted November 25, 2011 Super User Posted November 25, 2011 Tom, That's a basic "chicken rig" used more for bottom fishing. For casting and retrieving I'm talking about having the weight high and the jig at the bottom of the leader. I still don't think anything is better than using the right equipment in the first place. Quote
rDs Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 for shallow water I prefer a fly rod. That's what it excels at. Light tackle, gentle presentations. Mind you I love catching anything top water or subsurface on a fly rod. For trolling and deep water I use a spin rod or baitcaster. In general I feel those are the best tools for those situations. I'll even use a fly rod on light floating or suspending lures. I'll even cast flies with weight on spin rods or baitcasters Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted September 30, 2019 Super User Posted September 30, 2019 med spinning with 10 lb braid (with a leader cause I hate trebles hanging up on braid). I can cast lures that size with some of my lighter BCs, but it's so much better with this set up. Night of the living cast.... Quote
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