Fluoro For Spinning Outfit

[SirSnookalot]

My abu spinning reels are only used for casting and only braid is used and in saltwater. The water itself has no effect on twist or knots but imo the wind conditions are more prominent, calm wind produces far less problems. Yes, braid will twist under certain conditions, that would be a bait like a spoon and in my case barracuda tubes which constantly spin 360 degrees.

There is one application that I do use clear line ( mono, copoly etc) that is drift fishing in the ocean, these spinning reels are 8000 series or larger. Twist happens each and every outing without fail and is caused by 2 actions. The first happens when using baits like a ballyhoo or sardine which are about 6" long, they constantly turn around and around twist up your line, swivels help some but not much. Second reason is the way the line gets loaded back onto the spool as your cranking in. A spinning reel spool is in a fixed position mounted straight and the line is wrapped around the spool, a b/c spool is at a 90 angle to the rod and gathers the line itself by rotating, gets no twist.

I just get the line on the reel knowing the first thing i do before fishing is to troll the line out ( twists in braid will not troll out), I troll my line out before every outing. Just a mention, a b/c will get line twist from using the baits like a sardine for the same bait rotating situation, most will never encounter that problem as you don't fish that technique.

I am almost 100% convinced the reel is the major problem, but the way thre line loads back on to the reel contributes. I really like these abus, the drags are some of the best and the reels are built rock solid. That said and not wanting to start a reel debate, my stradics have never encountered that twist or wind knot problem, I do feel they are not built as solid. Don't get me wrong stradic is an excellent reel.

I know in my head what i was trying to say, hope it makes sense on paper..lol

[Abu Vasili]

My abu spinning reels are only used for casting and only braid is used and in saltwater. The water itself has no effect on twist or knots but imo the wind conditions are more prominent, calm wind produces far less problems. Yes, braid will twist under certain conditions, that would be a bait like a spoon and in my case barracuda tubes which constantly spin 360 degrees.

There is one application that I do use clear line ( mono, copoly etc) that is drift fishing in the ocean, these spinning reels are 8000 series or larger. Twist happens each and every outing without fail and is caused by 2 actions. The first happens when using baits like a ballyhoo or sardine which are about 6" long, they constantly turn around and around twist up your line, swivels help some but not much. Second reason is the way the line gets loaded back onto the spool as your cranking in. A spinning reel spool is in a fixed position mounted straight and the line is wrapped around the spool, a b/c spool is at a 90 angle to the rod and gathers the line itself by rotating, gets no twist.

I just get the line on the reel knowing the first thing i do before fishing is to troll the line out ( twists in braid will not troll out), I troll my line out before every outing. Just a mention, a b/c will get line twist from using the baits like a sardine for the same bait rotating situation, most will never encounter that problem as you don't fish that technique.

I am almost 100% convinced the reel is the major problem, but the way thre line loads back on to the reel contributes. I really like these abus, the drags are some of the best and the reels are built rock solid. That said and not wanting to start a reel debate, my stradics have never encountered that twist or wind knot problem, I do feel they are not built as solid. Don't get me wrong stradic is an excellent reel.

I know in my head what i was trying to say, hope it makes sense on paper..lol

Awesome post. You are the man. Not only does it make sense; it is extremely useful information. I appreciate your time and thoroughness in your feedback.

[natanestaban]

Braid or Nanofil with a flouro leader is the way to go unless you plan to use the rod for topwaters. Some braids are better than others on a spinning reel. Power Pro is good. I haven't tried Nanofil yet but I understand it's worth every penny.

[Hyrule Bass]

ive never thought fluoro and spinning reels were a good combo together, and that fluoro was more suited to baitcasters. try using another line with a fluoro leader and see if you still have the line twist problems, though im not big on using leaders that often either...

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

ive never thought fluoro and spinning reels were a good combo together, and that fluoro was more suited to baitcasters. try using another line with a fluoro leader and see if you still have the line twist problems, though im not big on using leaders that often either...

Keep in mind I don't use braid/flouro leader setups on spinning reels, so that is why I'm asking the questions I'm going to ask.

For me, the biggest reason I would use flouro is it's more dense, therefore sinks. Because of this you have more direct contact with light weight baits. Less line bow, less effected by wind/current etc.

Aren't you giving up this benefit by going to braid/flouro leader?

Sure you have the invisibility benefits of flouro but not density.

To answer my own question, is it because the diameter of the braid can be so small so as to offset the fact it isn't a sinking line?

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

Braid or Nanofil with a flouro leader is the way to go unless you plan to use the rod for topwaters. Some braids are better than others on a spinning reel. Power Pro is good. I haven't tried Nanofil yet but I understand it's worth every penny.

Ive tried it for a while and wouldnt say its worth the price, its good, but should be more arond $10. The knot strength and break point limit the value a bit. Like #6 rated line is just that #6 no more. To me line management and light bait throwing distance is where the line has its strenght.

[Abu Vasili]

Manually closing the bail changed fishing for me. I don't have to worry much about twist anymore-thank goodness.

One other trick that works for me: As the bait touches down I feather the line with my index finger against the lip of the spool and lift the rod tip slightly as I close the bail. This eliminates loose line and twisting as I begin to reel. Like thumbing the spool on a baitcaster, once you do it enough it almost happens from muscle memory. Good luck.

Best advice I have ever recieved. Used this method all today... you are right, it starts to happen from muscle memory and has saved my line twist issus. I will never not manually close the bail going forward. I cannot thank you enough.

[K_Mac]

Abu I am glad it worked for you. I learned that trick on this site, so I'm just passing it on.

[SirSnookalot]

As I tried to explain in post #26 line twist on spinning gear is caused in part on how the line gets fed back onto the spool during retrieve,I can't take credit as I read this someplace years ago. I am an advocate of closing the bail manually, it seems to be easier and it may put less wear and tear on the reel. I do not feel closing by hand has anything to do with line twist, all you have done is closed the bail, nothing more. The line twist is about physics and how the line gets fed back onto the spool..............bait issues as well when they revolve too much as in plastics, or trolling with certain spoons. Not to get too far off track but I will always use a swivel to attach my leader, BB prefered, it will not eliminate the problem but does help some.