pitchinthejig Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 I fish Sunline FC 95% of the time and mostly Super Shooter, and Sniper sometimes depending on the intended use for the line. I use Toray at times to but very little. I have a few spools of Tatsu as well and its a nice line for sure I just like Shooter better. I use Megabass Dragon Call on some rigs as well but by far I use Shooter the most right now I would guess at it being on 30-35 setups. For Braid I only fish Daiwa stuff... Quote
Bass_Fanatic Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 I love Seagar, but I loaded up on Sunline when they had the buy one get one free sale so we will see how it performs. Quote
pitchinthejig Posted November 15, 2011 Author Posted November 15, 2011 I love Seagar, but I loaded up on Sunline when they had the buy one get one free sale so we will see how it performs. It sucked they didnt have Shooter in that deal but I still bought me a bunch of spools of Sniper, Im sure thats what you went with? if so you will fall in love with it... Thats the smoothest best handling softest FC you will ever fish I mean it handles better then most Monos and thats no kidding it really is that soft and supple. Keep in mind tho its not going to fight abrasion as good as the harder FC's but its a pretty sensitive line and Stretch is pretty low (Still not as low stretch or sensitive is harder lines like Shooter but still very good overall and for how it handles) and IMHO is the best Spinning FC on the market.. its also IMHO the best cranking line out there as well unless you are around lots of timber.. It puts Berkley 100% to shame in each and every way. Quote
Fat-G Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 I like Toray Superhard Upgrade a lot, specifically the 20# on a jig rod. Sniper is great line as well. I'll try Shooter next! Quote
JIGFISHERMAN. Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 After making the transition from Mono to co-polymer to flouro several years ago, I'm leaning more and more to a co-poly. What I lose when going to a co-polymer (vs staying with a Flourocarbon) I more than make up for by being able to go to a much smaller diameter. All my spinning outfits are going to be spooled with 6lb, and casting rods, 10lb co-polymer. Even my Jig rod. So, I checked other. Quote
pitchinthejig Posted November 15, 2011 Author Posted November 15, 2011 I like Toray Superhard Upgrade a lot, specifically the 22# on a jig rod. Sniper is great line as well. I'll try Shooter next! Upgrade is a awesome line, very sensitive and abrasion resistant... but Shooter is almost a clear version of braid that is VERY abrasion resistant... I have bent open 4/0 EWG owner hooks with 40-50 feet of line out on real hard hook sets with it... its the most sensitive and least stretch FC ive ever fished. Quote
Fat-G Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 Upgrade is a awesome line, very sensitive and abrasion resistant... but Shooter is almost a clear version of braid that is VERY abrasion resistant... I have bent open 4/0 EWG owner hooks with 40-50 feet of line out on real hard hook sets with it... its the most sensitive and least stretch FC ive ever fished. Excellent - I'm looking for an extremely low stretch flouro, so I'll give the Shooter a try. Quote
ChiCityBasser Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Been using Cabelas brand flouro and no complaints Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted November 17, 2011 Super User Posted November 17, 2011 Upgrade is a awesome line, very sensitive and abrasion resistant... but Shooter is almost a clear version of braid that is VERY abrasion resistant... I have bent open 4/0 EWG owner hooks with 40-50 feet of line out on real hard hook sets with it... its the most sensitive and least stretch FC ive ever fished. I debate that, completely. Abrazx is lower stretch than Shooter, as is Upgrade. Tatsu is on par with shooter in terms of stretch and tensile strength. It actually tests higher in rated PSI in several sets of tests that I've seen. Upgrade finishes higher in effective strength than Shooter, the primary reason that Upgrade doesn't test as well is that it has slightly lower ratings in terms of break strength to actual. Shooter isn't anywhere close to the lowest stretch, or highest abrasion resistance, of fluorocarbons. Premium Plus from Toray is a line that kicks the pants off Shooter, too. It comes close to matching Tatsu in almost all ways, if not exceeding Tatsu, with the exception of clarity. Quote
pitchinthejig Posted November 17, 2011 Author Posted November 17, 2011 seems like you are going off psi tests and not use, i use Toray and have for years however i fish mainly shooter now because its a better line. you saying its more stretchy then Toray PP or tatsu well i havent fished it in less the 15 so i cant speak for the lighter stuff but the heavier lines have less stretch then any other premium fc ive ever fished and ive fished most of it... if you are going by a tt test and not use then please dont talk over someone with years of use of an item. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted November 17, 2011 Super User Posted November 17, 2011 seems like you are going off psi tests and not use, i use Toray and have for years however i fish mainly shooter now because its a better line. you saying its more stretchy then Toray PP or tatsu well i havent fished it in less the 15 so i cant speak for the lighter stuff but the heavier lines have less stretch then any other premium fc ive ever fished and ive fished most of it... if you are going by a tt test and not use then please dont talk over someone with years of use of an item. You obviously don't know Hooligan. LOL 1 Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted November 18, 2011 Super User Posted November 18, 2011 You obviously don't know Hooligan. LOL Now that just makes me laugh harder. Quote
tnbassfisher Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 I've been a P-Line guy for a couple years now since Roadwarrior once recommended it to me and I was a fan after trying it out. Quote
Fat-G Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Now that just makes me laugh harder. :D Quote
philsoreel Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 I've been using Tatsu, Solaroam SH Upgrade, and Shooter side by side for close to a year now and I have them in this order... #1 Toray #2 Shooter #3 Tatsu All are amazing lines and I'd be just fine if I had to use any one of them exclusively. However, I'd prefer Toray (BC only, FC's and spinning gear aren't my thing) over any other. A Uni or snell knot is insanely strong with it. The abrasion resistance is the best I've ever seen. Low stretch. It's all I can ask for in a FC line. Shooter is alright. The biggest problem I have with it is that I can't find a standout "best" knot with it. No matter what knot I tie with it, every five or six knots I tie PAP! one will break with not a ton of pressure. I had a hell of a time breaking off a hung up jig the other day but, still have that occasional weak knot. If I were to use one on spinning gear it would be Tatsu. I think it handles the best of the three but, along with the good handling comes a little more stretch and a slightly weaker line. You may have a completely different outlook on them as I do. I kept buying different FC's because so and so said it was the best with no stretch, etc, etc. Then, I would try that line and find that it has more stretch than silly putty. So, I bought all of them. Fished all of them. Now, I know which one to buy. Quote
philsoreel Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 seems like you are going off psi tests and not use, i use Toray and have for years however i fish mainly shooter now because its a better line. you saying its more stretchy then Toray PP or tatsu well i havent fished it in less the 15 so i cant speak for the lighter stuff but the heavier lines have less stretch then any other premium fc ive ever fished and ive fished most of it... if you are going by a tt test and not use then please dont talk over someone with years of use of an item. I think I know the answer to this one... Shooter is the bestest line on Earth! Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted November 19, 2011 Super User Posted November 19, 2011 I have another question, does anyone NOT use L&L ? Quote
Super User deep Posted November 19, 2011 Super User Posted November 19, 2011 I think I know the answer to this one... Shooter is the bestest line on Earth! $35 odd for one tiny spool of line? This line better be awesome lol.. Quote
philsoreel Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 $35 odd for one tiny spool of line? This line better be awesome lol.. I was actually attempting to be sarcastic. Shooter is #2 in my book. You're right, it's a steep price but, the longevity makes up for it. I've had the same Toray on one of my jig rods since late summer last year. A friend told me he had some last over two years. I was very skeptical about it lasting that long...starting to believe now. Don't get a bird's nest, it'll cost ya. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted November 21, 2011 Super User Posted November 21, 2011 Ive got a couple spools of Tatsu that's now in its third season, and a couple of r-18 that are going on 4. The longecity well makes up for the initial cost. I've got Toray that is in the same age range. Quote
Super User deep Posted November 21, 2011 Super User Posted November 21, 2011 I was actually attempting to be sarcastic. Shooter is #2 in my book. You're right, it's a steep price but, the longevity makes up for it. I've had the same Toray on one of my jig rods since late summer last year. A friend told me he had some last over two years. I was very skeptical about it lasting that long...starting to believe now. Don't get a bird's nest, it'll cost ya. You and Hooligan are right about the longevity thing. I have had reels spooled with sufix siege mono that last half a season. Good fluoros should last longer. Quote
philsoreel Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 You and Hooligan are right about the longevity thing. I have had reels spooled with sufix siege mono that last half a season. Good fluoros should last longer. If it didn't, I'm not sure I'd so easily shuck out $38. Quote
JigMe Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I have used few different bands of FC, such as P-line, Berkely, and seaguar. But my goes to P-line Halo, it never gives me any problems. Quote
JIGFISHERMAN. Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I have used few different bands of FC, such as P-line, Berkely, and seaguar. But my goes to P-line Halo, it never gives me any problems. +1 Always seems to perform pretty well IMO. I think sometimes folks get hung up on the Japenese is better, or if it costs 25x more than the old standbye's it must be the best. I really didn't have any complaints when using Berkley's 100% either. Quote
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