jeb2 Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Im going to give em a try. I like what Luck-E Strike is doing. Taking well known fish catchers and reproducing them for half the price. Even if it doesnt have the same action of a Mega, its only $7 down the drain. I agree, except it's more like 1/4 of the price, in this case. I've never yet had any of my many Vision 110's suspend correctly anyway. That changes almost daily with water temps and water density. And since you're not banging jerkbaits off the bottom very often, or at least I don't, they should last. I'll be trying a few at those prices. Thanks for letting us know about them. 1 Quote
KC Bass Fanatic Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I fished the RC STX this past weekend and I see no difference. Both of mine suspend perfectly and I caught multiple fish with no issues w/ the rings or the finish coming off. Anyone who tells you they are not as good as the Megabass is just mad that they have a box full of $25 jerk baits that are now severely over priced. Most guys I know that fish the megabass (including me) order them blank and put the rings and hooks on them so replace the stock rings/hooks on the RC and it's the same bait. Haters will hate but I won't buy another $25 jerk bait. 2 Quote
kLuo Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 which colors of the RC STX seem to be working for you guys? I want to be convinced to pick up a couple to give them a try... Quote
Quillback Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 Looks like TW is now carrying them. (Editor won't allow me to post link). Wait for the Black Friday sale and you can pick them up for less than $7. I'll definitely get some to fish around the heavy timber where I won't throw a Megabass. As far as tweaking the suspension, get some suspend dots and strips, also try floro for line. Colors? I like Pro Blue for Megabass, so I'd definitely order that color, Purple Golden Shiner looks good, as does Cosmic Shad. Quote
Nick Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 Nearly everything that Luck "E" Strike produces is substandard IMHO. Their Jogger worm should have been marketed as a shoe sole repair item. I would like to have a candid closed door conversation with Rick Clunn comparing the R.C. originals with the L. Strike brand crank as well. I'm not defending the 15-$30 price of LC and Megabass, but I'd like to get the skinny on the quality of LS, and the move away from LC to LS. I would hazard a bet that Clunn could tell blindfolded which lure he is retrieving. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted November 22, 2011 Super User Posted November 22, 2011 A lot of it deals with the bodies and the way they're put together. There's a whole lot more to it than just the looks. If they're working for you, great. I'll be mad and fish my box full of severely overpriced baits and know I can count on them. Quote
KC Bass Fanatic Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 A lot of it deals with the bodies and the way they're put together. There's a whole lot more to it than just the looks. If they're working for you, great. I'll be mad and fish my box full of severely overpriced baits and know I can count on them. So you know how each is put together? At this point, no one knows the difference in manufacturing. I have to assume that Rick 'borrowed' the 3D models and brought them w/ him to LS. If so then the construction is exactly the same and the cost savings would be from component selection or LESS MARK UP. Hooligan I'm not taking shots at MegaBass fishermen, I own some myself. My point is that every time I bought one I would cringe at how much profit they HAD to be making. And based one what? Superior construction? Or components? I'd venture to say the Rattlin Rogue catches just as good for $5 in the right setting. To me they all have their place; RC, McStick, Rogue. I just hope for the average fisherman that the LS baits turn out to be just as good so that the market price gets driven down. By dismissing LS wholesale as junk or unreliable we enable MegaBass et al to continue to take us behind the wood shed every time we buy a jerk bait. I'm not for Luck E Strike, I'm for keeping quality baits affordable for the ones who buy 95% of them - the average Joe weekend angler. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Global Moderator Posted November 22, 2011 Even if the Luck e Strike isn't quite as good as the Megabass, which I agree it probably isn't after fishing one, for the average fisherman with nothing really at stake if he doesn't get that extra couple of bites, I think they are a great alternative to the Megabass. They do catch fish pretty well and come in plenty of good colors to give the weekend fisherman with the ever shrinking fishing budget a more affordable option. 2 Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted November 23, 2011 Super User Posted November 23, 2011 Fair enough standpoint. I can respect what both of you have said. Quote
jeb2 Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 Just ordered a few of the LS STX as well as some more Vision 110's in various colors. This is getting to be jerk bait season here on Beaver Lake and the 110's has quite a following here. So time will tell how they work. I had issues with several of my 110's last year, like backend of the lure breaking off, bills breaking off, etc. So they are far from perfect, in my experience. Quote
Super User Gone_Phishin Posted November 24, 2011 Super User Posted November 24, 2011 So you know how each is put together? At this point, no one knows the difference in manufacturing. I have to assume that Rick 'borrowed' the 3D models and brought them w/ him to LS. If so then the construction is exactly the same and the cost savings would be from component selection or LESS MARK UP. Hooligan I'm not taking shots at MegaBass fishermen, I own some myself. My point is that every time I bought one I would cringe at how much profit they HAD to be making. And based one what? Superior construction? Or components? I'd venture to say the Rattlin Rogue catches just as good for $5 in the right setting. To me they all have their place; RC, McStick, Rogue. I just hope for the average fisherman that the LS baits turn out to be just as good so that the market price gets driven down. By dismissing LS wholesale as junk or unreliable we enable MegaBass et al to continue to take us behind the wood shed every time we buy a jerk bait. I'm not for Luck E Strike, I'm for keeping quality baits affordable for the ones who buy 95% of them - the average Joe weekend angler. R&D. It's quite easy for a company, who did not invest much money into research and development, to knock-off a bait and offer it at a low price. Quote
Simp Posted December 1, 2011 Posted December 1, 2011 Well I've slowly grown a collection of jerkbaits because of our fantastic power plant lake that is about to turn on right about now. I'm not one to say this lure is better then the next when it comes to jerkbaits. To me it's all about presenting a certain size and certain action at a certain time. When the bass aren't feeding actively I often throw the pointer 78 or a Academy DD jerkbait (LC knock off) if I think they want something deeper. Now for a mid range depth on actively feeding fish I like the bigger size of the 110 and the three hooks. I hope to get a bigger bight with that lure. I think all these I throw offer something a little different and have great action. I plan on buying some luck E STrike jerbaits in a few colors to give them a shot and provide more choices for different conditions. I'd have to check my tackle box but a the price 110's are I only have a couple and one of them (my first one by chance) I reeled in after catching somebodies line that had broke off. Personally I can understand Megabass being upset but you are only going to have a lure marked at such a prem price from over seas for so long before a local company copies and lowers the price. The only thing that can ruin this lure would be crappy hooks. I have no problem replacing hooks but with three hooks each to replace if there bad hooks it ruins the price savings somewhat. Quote
Vinny Chase Posted December 2, 2011 Posted December 2, 2011 ^ I just got my 3 from TW and I can tell you without fishing them that the hooks will need to be replaced. I felt as if they were going to snap just trying to bend them. Quote
kyle32 Posted December 2, 2011 Posted December 2, 2011 I threw one a few times today and i was impressed. They have good action and suspend very well. It will still be a month or so before there's any good jerkbait bite down here, so time will tell Quote
jeb2 Posted December 2, 2011 Posted December 2, 2011 I threw one a few times today and i was impressed. They have good action and suspend very well. It will still be a month or so before there's any good jerkbait bite down here, so time will tell Same here. Put a Pro Blue STX on the water today. I left it all stock just to see how it would suspend out of the box. I nomally change out all the hooks on my jerk baits. I didn't used to do that on the 110's since they come with fancy hooks, but they are super fragile, so they get them now too. Anyway, the STX suspended very well stock. Better than any 110 I've ever owned. I was more than a bit surprised by that one. I figured it, like EVERY jerkbait I've ever owned, would need some weighting to make it neutrally boyant. It did very, very slowly rise but not enough to have to adjust for. The action seemed very similar to my 110's. The jerk bait bite has not turned on yet here, but I think these will be just as good a weapon as the 110's. Maybe better as I won't be as afraid to use these in thicker timber. Quote
JIGFISHERMAN. Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Any more feedback on these jerkbaits? Quote
jeb2 Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 It has caught some nice fish for me so far. My MB110's are gathering dust at this point. Why risk a $25 bait when the STX works at least as well? And I'm more willing to throw them into possible snaggy areas, too. You'll want to change out the hooks, but that's true on all my 110's as well. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted February 21, 2012 Super User Posted February 21, 2012 I'll buy all the hooks off your 110's. They're simply the best hook made in that size. Period, bar none. Secondly, the RCX doesn't fish as well as a 110, but it does catch fish. It's good in different situations. It suspends much more level, opposed to having a slight nose down attitude. It also doesn't have quite the flash and dart of a 110. I've caught fish on the RCX under various situations, and it is a decent bait. Will it replace any other jerkbait? No, most definitely not. Quote
Quillback Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 The hooks on the 110 are the best made for that size? What do you base that on? I like Daiichi Death Traps myself, super sharp, light, but relatively strong. Quote
Phranchise1213 Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 So to summarize for everyone, the rcstx is a solid jerkbait for the price. Not on the same level as the 110 in action but none the less will catch you fish (thats what we all want right?) And...the split rings need to be changed out (size 2 owners fit the bill) because they are hack and the hooks could be changed out if you want a better hook up percentage, as with most baits. Quote
jeb2 Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 I'll buy all the hooks off your 110's. They're simply the best hook made in that size. Period, bar none. While I respect your opinion, that is not my experience. I've had many of the 110 hooks break. Now I just swap them out. I'd be happy to sell them to you, but I toss all of those since they're unreliable for me. Secondly, the RCX doesn't fish as well as a 110, but it does catch fish. It's good in different situations. It suspends much more level, opposed to having a slight nose down attitude. It also doesn't have quite the flash and dart of a 110. I've caught fish on the RCX under various situations, and it is a decent bait. Will it replace any other jerkbait? No, most definitely not. I agree, it does not replace all my other jerkbaits. I still fish various LC's, Spro's, etc also. But the 110's have been staying in the box for the most part this winter. The STX has just plain been out fishing it for me. Quote
jeb2 Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 So to summarize for everyone, the rcstx is a solid jerkbait for the price. Not on the same level as the 110 in action but none the less will catch you fish (thats what we all want right?) And...the split rings need to be changed out (size 2 owners fit the bill) because they are hack and the hooks could be changed out if you want a better hook up percentage, as with most baits. I wouldn't say it's not on the same level as the 110. Actually, in my experience thus far, it's a better bait than the 110 for catching fish around here. And I think the split ring problem was just on some early baits. Most of mine have come with good split rings, but I did have a couple with noticeably whimpy rings, which I changed out. Quote
Phranchise1213 Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 jeb, if you don't mind me asking. I usually change out my crankbait hooks out of the package with owner stingers or triple grips and go up a size without affecting the action of the bait, but usually I do not fiddle with my jerkbaits because I have failed miserably in the past by destroying the baits action. I haven't had a problem the hooks on my mcsticks or pointers, but do you change out the hooks on your rcstx's? If so what size, brand? Thanks! Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted February 23, 2012 Super User Posted February 23, 2012 I changed all of the hooks to either Katsuage or Owner ST36. Quote
jeb2 Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 jeb, if you don't mind me asking. I usually change out my crankbait hooks out of the package with owner stingers or triple grips and go up a size without affecting the action of the bait, but usually I do not fiddle with my jerkbaits because I have failed miserably in the past by destroying the baits action. I haven't had a problem the hooks on my mcsticks or pointers, but do you change out the hooks on your rcstx's? If so what size, brand? Thanks! I use Daiichi Death Traps in size 6 for the STX. I weighed them with my very accurate reloading scale, and they are within a 1/10 of a gram of the OEM hooks. Quote
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