Super User K_Mac Posted October 31, 2011 Super User Posted October 31, 2011 Maxximus Redneckus the deprivation and suffering in Haiti is at a level that is hard to believe. The natural disaster did not cause many of the problems, but they are much worse now. Your "turd is a turd" analogy is offensive, at least to me. These are human beings who are suffering. This church is attempting to help. How can you condemn that. One other thing, it has been my experience that those who have the least resources are usually the ones who give the most. They don't wait until they can afford to help; they just do. Yes, their are plenty who need help at home. That does not mean a group of believers can't also provide help elsewhere. Raider Nation Fisher this is a mission trip paid for by the members of a church. They have given of their time and money to try to help people who are suffering. Again, it's what the church is called to do. You don't know the commitment of this church to the local community. Churches that do this sort of mission work are almost always very active in the local community. If a church wants to help in Haiti, or Somalia, or anywhere else where inhuman conditions are present, don't they have the right to do it? Your 'tell me why wanting to help Americans is wrong' argument is made of straw. The only issue here is whether the church has the freedom to try to help outside of the borders of our country. I think they have both the freedom and the duty to do so. 1
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 31, 2011 Super User Posted October 31, 2011 Very few if any 3 rd world countries have programs to help their people in dire straits. Aiding people in distress defines who we are as a people and a nation, sadly I can think of only a small handful of civilized countries that adhere to the same belief as the majority of Americans. BTW,,,,,,,,Wahoo jigs are made in Haiti, been one of my favorite brands for years.
Super User Lund Explorer Posted October 31, 2011 Super User Posted October 31, 2011 In no way was I trying to take away from what he is doing. I'm happy he is helping others that need it. I was just stating that there are people here, that need help also. I in no way said he should not go do what he feels he is being lead to do. If it came across that way then I apologize. I just don't see the reason why we as Americans always rush to fix the problems of the rest of the world when we have are own here. If that makes me a bad person then so be it. If people want to go help others in other countries, fine, more power to them. It just seems to me that all you ever here about is going to help in _________(insert country here), and not that much about what people do or are doing on the home front. Again if wanting to take care of the people in America makes me a bad guy, hate monger, inhuman, careless being. Then so be it I'll wear that badge with pride. If someone cares to shed some light on that for me (without attacking me), I would be more than happy to hear the reasoning behind it. This isn't an attack, but if you are having a hard time finding charitable work in our country, you need to refine your search techniques. They're everywhere! Start your search with the easy ones. Habitat for Humanity, Shriner's Hospitals, March of Dimes, Special Olympics, Red Cross, Big Brothers/Big Sisters, Salvation Army, and even Tackle the Storm would make an interesting start, and would barely scratch the surface. Large or small, there are many more charities such as these that target specific needs within communities across the entire country. Have you ever seen a Jerry Lewis telethon for MDA? Many veterans groups provide help to other vets and their families. Almost every American Legion Post has a service officer that provides guidance and help to members in need. The local American Legion I belong to provides free transportation for area vets to hospitals and such. They also run a food bank for residents regardless of veteran status. Looking closer to home, almost every city, town, or village has local organizations or churches that operate their own programs to help on the local level. Besides the Legion Post I mentioned above, there are several area churches that operate food banks, heating assistance programs, and other charitable activities. Many local Home Builders Associations team up with colleges or trade schools to upgrade the homes of the elderly or poor in their areas which in turn helps reduce these folks heating costs during the winter. Quite honestly, the area I live in is overrun with charitable organizations to the point where a person could stay busy 7 days a week if they wanted to donate their time to help. Most likely, the area you live in is the same too. All it takes to become a part of this flood of goodwill towards your fellow citizens is to walk into your local United Way and say the following words; "How can I help?". 1
tyrius. Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 It just seems to me that all you ever here about is going to help in _________(insert country here), and not that much about what people do or are doing on the home front. Charitable organizations exist pretty much everywhere in the US. You hardly even have to try to find one that benefits Americans. And just as an aside, a report from my church's mini mission to Haiti included a report that they delivered food to two orphanages. One was down to their last box of food and the other had already run out. Things may be bad for people here, but you can bet your *** that they are MANY times worse in the third world countries. Children are literally starving because they live in orphanages with no one to take care of them. Our poor would hardly even rate on their suffering scale.
Super User Long Mike Posted October 31, 2011 Super User Posted October 31, 2011 I think everyone has made their point here. This thread is now locked.
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