CHRGD Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Shotgun, 18" barrel, with home defense loads. Very low recoil, easy for ANYONE to shoot. Quote
jamarkwe Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Trying to scare someone by racking a pump action will only give away your location..guns are not made to scare people Quote
CHRGD Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 I don't rack. One is always in the chamber. Quote
Bigs Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 I have an AR15 but wouldnt even think of using it on an intruder. That's what my Remington 870 express is for, thats the only thing i bought it for. Both my xd9 and xd40 are near my bed too but those are incase someone were to sneak in my room as an absolute last resort, fat chance tho. My dogs let me know if anyone is withing spitting distance of the house. Trying to use a handgun or rifle in the dark is just plain dumb and should only be used as a last resort if all else fails. 1 Quote
jamarkwe Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 @Bigs.. Not dumb if your handgun has a 150 luman strobe and laser.... Quote
Bigs Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 @Bigs.. Not dumb if your handgun has a 150 luman strobe and laser.... sorry if I'm not mall ninja enough to have those cool features on my handguns. You do know a light makes a great target right ? Stop watching so many movies and learn to spell lumen while you're at it Quote
jamarkwe Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Mall ninja? Movies? Do you have to be so rude Bigs? I never insulted you.... you should try shooting into a strobe light.. Quote
jamarkwe Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Is that how you always react when someone disagrees with you? Quote
jamarkwe Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 If you break in my house and see a light pointing at you, its too late I already fired multiple rounds into you. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted December 7, 2011 Super User Posted December 7, 2011 Lights are a great asset when used correctly I have a sure fire for my M4 or what ever the army so chooses to give me as a weapon. I'd mount one on a HD weapon if I owned one but I don't. If your walking around shunning the light then yeah u make a target and give away ur position but say ur in a hall way pitch black intruder coming in or other way around ur kicking in the door and u hit that light you blind everyone on the recieving end and disorintate them and u can either give en 2 in the chest 1 in the head or go non lethal and take it to the groin if close enough. Lasers are also great if in a hurry u can from the waist activate get laser center mass and pop pop fights over. Quote
jamarkwe Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 I would rather take my chances with a rail mounted light, than to shoot at a target in the dark that I can't confirm or identify as a intruder and not a loved one. Quote
Bigs Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Lights are a great asset when used correctly This is very true. But the reality is, most people do not have the proper training to understand how to use weapon mounted lights. Most guys without military or police training, run out and buy guns, then dress them up with gadgets that they do NOT know how to use properly. That right there will get you killed in a hurry. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted December 12, 2011 Super User Posted December 12, 2011 This is very true. But the reality is, most people do not have the proper training to understand how to use weapon mounted lights. Most guys without military or police training, run out and buy guns, then dress them up with gadgets that they do NOT know how to use properly. That right there will get you killed in a hurry. I have alot of gadgets for my M4 almost none are mounted just my PEQ15 and ACOG the rest I can put on if needed. another thing people don't realize with all this "cool" gear is the added weight on your muzzle end makin it hard or difficult to hold up for any period of time plus it throws your accuracy off but CQC u generally hit what your pointing at anyways. Quote
Bigs Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 I have alot of gadgets for my M4 almost none are mounted just my PEQ15 and ACOG the rest I can put on if needed. another thing people don't realize with all this "cool" gear is the added weight on your muzzle end makin it hard or difficult to hold up for any period of time plus it throws your accuracy off but CQC u generally hit what your pointing at anyways. In CQC there is no need for any gadgets whatsoever imo. And with the ACOG having very little eye relief at all, I wouldn't want one on my AR if the SHTF and I needed to use it. I just don't see why everyone has to buy all these add ons for their weapons, maybe they see it in the movies and think its cool? That's my best guess. And using a handgun for home defense, I just don't agree at all Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted December 12, 2011 Super User Posted December 12, 2011 In CQC there is no need for any gadgets whatsoever imo. And with the ACOG having very little eye relief at all, I wouldn't want one on my AR if the SHTF and I needed to use it. I just don't see why everyone has to buy all these add ons for their weapons, maybe they see it in the movies and think its cool? That's my best guess. And using a handgun for home defense, I just don't agree at all That's on my issued weapon that WAS set up for Afghanistan not much CQC there. Now were going to Kuwait so idk how I'll have it set up maybe the same maybe a CCO I won't know till I have a warm and fuzzy for what we will be doing. Home defense wise my wife wanted to use my .17 and I laughed at her and told her to use my 20ga because I don't have a 12. Ill leave the short slug barrel on it and leave her a box of cheap bird shot it will do the job if anything ever happend well I'm gone. Quote
Bigs Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 That's on my issued weapon that WAS set up for Afghanistan not much CQC there. Now were going to Kuwait so idk how I'll have it set up maybe the same maybe a CCO I won't know till I have a warm and fuzzy for what we will be doing. Home defense wise my wife wanted to use my .17 and I laughed at her and told her to use my 20ga because I don't have a 12. Ill leave the short slug barrel on it and leave her a box of cheap bird shot it will do the job if anything ever happend well I'm gone. thanks for serving our country, please be safe. And a 20ga will be just fine, let's just hope she never has to use it on anything that doesn't have feathers or fur. Quote
RyneB Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 I cant argue with any weapon as a home defense. As long as it fires and saves your life, its good enough. The odds that you will ever have to use it are very low. Kids and animals in the house, proximity to a neighboring house all play vital roles in the weapon you should choose. Like many of you, i am more than prepared. There is a mossberg 500 under my bed with 00 buckshot. A 9mm on the night stand next to my bed. 2 AK 47s in my closet. I leave the door to my room locked. If i hear anything that sounds like someones in my house. I will gather my guns and tell my wife to get under the bed and lay flat on the floor. Im going to dial 911 and tell the person on the phone i have weapons and for the police to identiy themselves. Then i will wait for the police to arrive. I will not fire a single shot or walk out to shoot someone. I will stay behind my locked door with my wife, i refuse to leave her behind while i go play Rambo. But if my door starts getting kicked in by someone other than the police, im unleashing the AK and he will die. Being prepared is just as important as the gun you have. I have no kids or animals or anything that will be in harms way on the other side of the door other than the intruder. Now if i had kids, i wouldnt think of using the AK. Short of putting Claymore mines at your doorways and windows, nothing is guaranteed. If i had kids and such, i would keep a Taurus Judge by my bed and thats it. I have the .410 rounds to put on target, If that doesnt work, I have the .45 rounds. 1 Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted February 11, 2012 Super User Posted February 11, 2012 Lots of great opinions here. One thing you might want to remember though. Chances are it's going to be at night in a dimly lit or dark house. The muzzle blast from any gun under those conditions create immediate debilitating conditions for the shooter. (I really don't care about the intruder.) First, you will be immediately blinded. Second, you will no long have your sense of hearing. Those are the facts. With that knowledge, you had better select a weapon with which you have extreme confidence in and one with which you practice a lot at the range. Common sense, right? Most folks that have a gun for home defense rarely use it unfortunately. Something to think about. My selection is a short, double barreled 12 ga. loaded with low base 7 1/2's. If you ever shot this load at a paper target at 10 yards, you'd know why. Quite a devastating machine. You will also be very nervous under these stressful conditions and pointing a shotgun is much more effective than aiming a pistol. I know there are some good pistoleros out there, but most are not. And unless you are visiting the range at least once a week, you are not as good as you think you are. The shotgun stacks the odds in your favor. And the above load reduces the chances of bullets or large pellets leaving your premises and harming someone outside your home. JMO. Quote
Michael DiNardo Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 Just because you point a shotgun at something does not mean you will get a hit. At "in the home distances" any shotgun throws a very tight pattern. Use what you shoot the best and what s the most reliable. Mike Quote
Tony Monticelli Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 Just because you point a shotgun at something does not mean you will get a hit. At "in the home distances" any shotgun throws a very tight pattern. Use what you shoot the best and what s the most reliable. Mike thats a good thing, turkey mags would fold em quick. Quote
zip pow Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 I use a colt combat elite for home defense and i practice a lot with the weapon.Pistols are fine for home defense as long as you practice real situations you mite get into. One of my drills is to shoot a man sized target in the head without hitting a life size target of my son at distances of 30 yards and less. I can and with practice anyone can. Quote
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