Trouble With Fluoro

[bassmanET]

Does anyone use Berkley "Vanish" Fluoro?

I have had 2 big fish break me off at the boat. Both times it was a spinnerbait 3/8 oz on 10lb fluoro, on a baitcaster. I'm using a trilene knot & wetting line ever time I tie on. Does fluoro have a long life (sun and/or sitting on spool for long time affect it)? Drag was set a little to high? I hate losing a fish but, losing my lure too really steams me! Maybe I should pony up & by some better line?

[grimlin]

I don't hear much good things about Vanish.....Definitely try a different line.

I'm not a big fan of any fluorocarbon myself. I'm looking to try sunline soon...if that one fails me I'll be sticking to P-line CXX.

[Shane J]

10lb line is a little small for a 3/8 oz spinnerbait. I'd go up to 15-17lb 100%flouro. Doubt you'll have any more break offs. That Vanish is junk.

[Craiger12]

I highly recommend P-Line CXX for spinnerbait fishing. No need to mess with fluorocarbon here. CXX has excellent tensile and knot strength as well as incredible abrasion resistance. I am simply amazed sometimes when I don't break off after getting hung up. I only use 10lb CXX for 1/2oz and under, you could go with 12lb, but I don't see any reason to go higher than 12lb. This has got to be one of the toughest lines out there.

[bassmanET]

I picked the 10lb test for throwing crankbaits, to get maximum depth. Since fluoro sinks can or should I use a heavier test?

When I caught my PB 5.5 last week. Got a huge back lash (hooked the seat next to me, good thing I was alone ooops!) Switched to my spinning reel with 12lb mono. Guess it was a good time for a back lash or would have lost that fish for sure!

[NorcalBassin]

As legend has it... when you use Vanish, that's exactly what happens to the fish you hook.

[Khong Y.]

Does anyone use Berkley "Vanish" Fluoro?

I have had 2 big fish break me off at the boat. Both times it was a spinnerbait 3/8 oz on 10lb fluoro, on a baitcaster. I'm using a trilene knot & wetting line ever time I tie on. Does fluoro have a long life (sun and/or sitting on spool for long time affect it)? Drag was set a little to high? I hate losing a fish but, losing my lure too really steams me! Maybe I should pony up & by some better line?

You went with Vanish did you. Should have gotten the more expensive Berkley Professional Grade Fluoro. Don't settle for cheap stuff if you don't want to lose your lure.

[matstone7]

10lb line is a little small for a 3/8 oz spinnerbait. I'd go up to 15-17lb 100%flouro. Doubt you'll have any more break offs.

X2

[basshunter81]

I use Vanish Flouro and have absolutely no problems with it. Like already mentioned, 10lb test was really light for what you were throwing. Just like any other flouro you must change it out frequently. Be sure to use backing to save money. I like to use cajun red as backing because it makes it easy to see if you’re getting low. It is very easy to try and blame the line. You have to make sure you have everything set up properly and using the appropriate lb test.

[rubba bubba]

What Norcal said.

[baluga]

As legend has it... when you use Vanish, that's exactly what happens to the fish you hook.

Very true! That's why I shifted to Seaguar InvizX

[NBR]

I've used 12# Vanish for years without a problem!

[J Francho]

I have had 2 big fish break me off at the boat.

Short leash, drag set too tight for 10# line. Up the line diameter, change brands, set the drag to 1/3 break strength of the line, or get a net.

[The Guy]

I had vanish break while casting it stayed on my reel for one outing. I switched to Abrazx and have been very happy with it, I feed it plenty of KVD line conditioner.

[Fishes in trees]

I've fished 14 lb Vanish for years on baitcasters. I think it is an ok line for soft plastics, medium weight jigs, wacky senkos and stuff like that. I've broke off some fish over the years, but I attribute that mostly to operator error.

Now,with that being said, I don't think fluorocarbon line is a real good idea for reaction baits like spinner baits or crank baits. For spinner baits, I like a tough mono. Currently I'm using 17 lb Stren Dura Tuff. I'll use the same line for throwing square bills, sometimes I will drop down to 14. I very seldom use line any lighter than that on bait casting reels.

[Hooligan]

Now,with that being said, I don't think fluorocarbon line is a real good idea for reaction baits like spinner baits or crank baits. For spinner baits, I like a tough mono. Currently I'm using 17 lb Stren Dura Tuff. I'll use the same line for throwing square bills, sometimes I will drop down to 14. I very seldom use line any lighter than that on bait casting reels.

And I, as well as others, disagree. Extremely high strength to diameter ratio, very high abrasion resistance and excellent line behaviour for reaction baits. Crankbaits in particular hit greater depths and have better action on lighter lines, say 10lb Tatsu or AbrazX. Spinnerbaits on fluorocarbon is a no-brainer. In deep cover, and in soft cover, the line stands up much better to the abuse than ANY mono, has better behaviour when pulling fish from weeds and is just generally a better choice than mono.

Most of the issue at hand will be solved with #1 setting your drag properly, and #2 using a line that has better properties than Vanish. Vanish is notoriously low quality line in terms of abrasion and break strength. It's an EXCELLENT walleye line, if not one of the very best, but that is generally applications in which there's little chance of contacting cover with the line, and in situations that diameter to strength is not a huge issue.

@OP check out Bass Tackle Depot right now, they've got Sunline products on sale for a GREAT buy. Excellent introductory, and higher quality, fluorocarbon for a very good price.

[dhami013]

Vanish is garbage. I like Stren Flouro, it's not too expensive and it has done well for me.

[Coangler]

Segaur InvisX is what I use, but P Line CXX is good also. the thing to remember is this. We spend good money on rod and reels and don't think twice about donating tackle to the lake. So, don't go cheap with the most important link between you and lure. TIGHTLINES!

[Big-O]

Very true! That's why I shifted to Seaguar InvizX

X2 when I have to use fluoro and very happy with it... I changed from a hybrid fluoro, parallelium pro early this year.

Big O

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[gr8outdoorz]

Which Vanish are you using? The Vanish in the blue box is JUNK!!!! WAY too brittle! However, I switched to Vanish Transition last spring and have had absolutely NO problems with breakoff's since

[endless]

As can see Vanish doesn't have a great following. Like they say try switching over to another brand. If budget is a issue I had no problem with XPS Flouro. If want to break free of Flouro all together. CXX is a nice line. I use it on my buzzbaits.

[bassmanET]

Thanks for all the input guys!

Yes its the Blue box "Vanish". I knew it was on the light side for baitcaster, using it for crankbaits for maximum depth. I have the same line on my spinning real & also have had a 1 lb. fish break me off. From the replies I've read, I just don't have the confidence to use this stuff. This was my first Fluoro line, thought It would be a good place to start since I never fished it before. Like the the added feel for fluoro & have caught many fish on it. Gonna look for a better line in the spring.

[Jason Penn]

vanish seems to be a tad bit smaller diameter, so i assume 10# is closer to most other 8# lines.

[Hi Salenity]

I am using 12# Vanish on 1 rod and I haven't had any problems with it yet. I will say I am very new to Fluoro.

[Colton Neal]

Make sure to take care of your line and check for nicks frequently. Also change it as long as you take care of it every 3 times you go fishing.

The best knot for fluoro is the double clinch knot.

with 10 lb line be sure to set your drag to about a third of the line weight.