skeetermike Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 It seems they are making them way too soft now. I used to could catch way more fish per Hog than now. All they wanna do is fall apart. Maybe it's a sales tactic? I'm telling ya if they could make a bait that was heavy salt, with anis oil/crawfish impregnated that was light enough to float up off the bottom but in small and big sizes for the diff. times of yr. it would be the next big thing. Course the color patterns are very important too. Maybe I need to go into bait manufacturing, he, he, he! I like the powerbait scent but they could use to make more than just good worms and in some more color patterns. Zoom apparently don't understand the importance of smell as their products don't seem to have much smell even though they are salt impregnated. I've noticed the Rage products seem to have a coffee smell... maybe something to that who knows. Quote
bigtimfish Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 From what I have read, the new Rage Hawg is going to put the Brush hog to shame. I can't wait to see for myself, cause I love my brush hogs. Quote
aarogb Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 I don't know about his creature baits but his jig trailers float and the are filled with salt and crawfish scent (they smell great): www.basssnacks.com Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 28, 2009 Super User Posted July 28, 2009 I don't know about his creature baits but his jig trailers float and the are filled with salt and crawfish scent (they smell great): www.basssnacks.com Interesting, as these two attributes rarely go hand in hand. have you seen this 1st hand? Quote
bigtimfish Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 I don't know about his creature baits but his jig trailers float and the are filled with salt and crawfish scent (they smell great): www.basssnacks.com Interesting, as these two attributes rarely go hand in hand. have you seen this 1st hand? x2. I thought salt made things sink Quote
Big-O Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Softer texture as well as salt helps to increase fish hold time so that the angler has more opportunity to feel the fish which also allows more time to set the hook ...... impregnated with salt makes poly sol or standard soft plastics heavier so that their sink rate is increased ...... to get a floating plastic that has enough salt to increase hold time, Elaztec is another product to consider. Big O www.ragetail.com Quote
Super User Catt Posted July 28, 2009 Super User Posted July 28, 2009 If I trade 1 for 1 I'm tickled Quote
Clark Stewart Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 I agree I just got into using brush hogs and i like to rig em weightless and fish em like a buzz bait. Which means each hog is good for about 2 fish because every strike pushes the hog about a foot up my line over the hook causing a tear. I know it wouldn't be so bad with a pegged sinker but that's not my style. I wish strike king would expand the 3x line to include brush hogs! that would be awesome as those things float like crazy and jaws couldn't tear one - matter of fact neither can my 85 pound yellow lab - she loves to wrestle em out of my hand! For what it's worth I'm a bigger fan of big bite baits' kriet kreiture which looks a whole lot like a brush hog but in my opinion has more action, more salt/scent and is cheaper. 2.09 at academy v. around 4.00 for a pack of brush hogs. Quote
Texas10Man Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Elaztech brush hog http://www.zmanfishing.com/store/categories/elaztech/creaturez Quote
aarogb Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 I don't know about his creature baits but his jig trailers float and the are filled with salt and crawfish scent (they smell great): www.basssnacks.com Interesting, as these two attributes rarely go hand in hand. have you seen this 1st hand? I could be wrong, but I think his creature baits do float. Like I said his jig trailers float and I think they have a little bit of salt in them. Of course their not chalked full of salt like Yamamoto baits but I pretty sure they do float. Quote
Super User burleytog Posted July 28, 2009 Super User Posted July 28, 2009 I don't know about his creature baits but his jig trailers float and the are filled with salt and crawfish scent (they smell great): www.basssnacks.com Interesting, as these two attributes rarely go hand in hand. have you seen this 1st hand? I could be wrong, but I think his creature baits do float. Like I said his jig trailers float and I think they have a little bit of salt in them. Of course their not chalked full of salt like Yamamoto baits but I pretty sure they do float. But you said they were filled with salt. Quote
aarogb Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 I don't know about his creature baits but his jig trailers float and the are filled with salt and crawfish scent (they smell great): www.basssnacks.com Interesting, as these two attributes rarely go hand in hand. have you seen this 1st hand? I could be wrong, but I think his creature baits do float. Like I said his jig trailers float and I think they have a little bit of salt in them. Of course their not chalked full of salt like Yamamoto baits but I pretty sure they do float. But you said they were filled with salt. I guess I could have used better choice of words. :-/ The bottom line is they have a little bit of salt in them but not NEARLY comparable to Yamamoto baits. Quote
The_Natural Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 I almost started a thread about brush hogs being too hard these days. I purchased several packs of the limited edition smoke/mustard color, and thought they were way hard. Back in the '90s Zoom baits were super salty and super soft. I prefer soft baits that tear easily....that means they have great action in the water. Quote
farmpond1 Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 From my rather limited experience with them, I also find brush hogs a bit too soft. They get ripped apart very quickly. But then again, they work so I guess I'd rather have a too soft bait that catches a few fish than one that isn't and doesn't. Quote
skeetermike Posted July 29, 2009 Author Posted July 29, 2009 Glad to see i'm not the only one who thinks they are too soft. There was talk about salt vs floating. Secret to getting a floating bait I feel is make it, or portions of it hollow and then lay the salt to it. I dip my pinchers on those hogs with spike it dye, then also spray craw scent on top of that... trust me you can't get enough. Like someone said earlier, it's all about hold time. Quote
Super User Tin Posted July 29, 2009 Super User Posted July 29, 2009 The only time I find brush hogs are too soft is when they are left in the sun. Brand new out of the bag I find they are actually quite hard. I have never found a bag that was too soft or even moderately soft. Must be how they ship them in the hot southern parts of the country. Shipping is very weird right now. There was something on the news last night about how companies are having lots of problems with plastic lids for cups melting and some plastic bottles (specifically Gatorade)giving off odors because of the heat in various parts of the country. :-? Quote
Jake. Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 I prefer soft baits that tear easily....that means they have great action in the water. Me too. Durability is overrated to me. Quote
EdKras Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 I've gotten away from zoom brush hogs because the pour isn't very consistent. there are always dents and divots in the baits. I've gone to the *** version for most of my fishing unless there is a particular color I want from zoom. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 30, 2009 Super User Posted July 30, 2009 Softer texture as well as salt helps to increase fish hold time so that the angler has more opportunity to feel the fish which also allows more time to set the hook ...... impregnated with salt makes poly sol or standard soft plastics heavier so that their sink rate is increased ...... to get a floating plastic that has enough salt to increase hold time, Elaztec is another product to consider. Big O www.ragetail.com Elaztec is a great product. I use SK finesse worms made of the material. They are indestructible. I have yet to change one. I've caught over twenty bass on a single worm, and it still looked nearly new. The only time I've needed to use another is when I've lost the rig due to a hangup in the rocks. I find it best to pierce the head about three quarters of an inch deep into the center of the head. I use a safety pin heated with a candle. Makes it possible to install on the stand alone barbs like those found on the ShakE2 jig heads. There is one downside, that should be prominently displayed on all Elaztec packaging. DO NOT ALLOW ELAZTEC PRODUCTS TO REMAIN IN CONTACT WITH OTHER PLASTIC BAITS. THEY WILL MELT/DISSOLVE. KEEP ALL ELAZTEC PRODUCTS IN SEPARATE CONTAINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
skeetermike Posted July 30, 2009 Author Posted July 30, 2009 Re: B-Hogs are too soft now?? Reply #17 - Today at 2:25am I've gotten away from zoom brush hogs because the pour isn't very consistent. there are always dents and divots in the baits. I've gone to the *** version for most of my fishing unless there is a particular color I want from zoom. I totally agree with this statement! I've seen them in odd shapes a lot. I may go back to using the Berkley Power Hawgs as they work well too. I do like the fact that Zoom gives more color selection though. The new Rage products have kinda caught my eye also. There Space Monkey to me doesn't resemble a crawdad much, but the lobsters may be the ticket. Quote
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