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  • Super User
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Anyone knows where I can buy some? If they make red trebles, they have to make white ones too.

I'm going to put some on topwater baits. I'm thinking it'd blend better with the white belly of the bait.

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I think that's a great idea. If you can't find any, I would suggest paining your own.

  • Super User
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a VMC O’Shaughnessy Treble Hooks in Perma steel would be close enough to be white.

Those actually look pretty good! Thanks.

  • Global Moderator
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Some swimbait guys spraypaint their own hooks white to hide them better with the bait. I don't know how long it would last but it would be easy to do and inexpensive and you wouldn't have to change to different type of hook than what you usually use.

  • Super User
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Some swimbait guys spraypaint their own hooks white to hide them better with the bait. I don't know how long it would last but it would be easy to do and inexpensive and you wouldn't have to change to different type of hook than what you usually use.

How did you know that was the specific application I was looking at? And I thought the idea was original lol.

I thought about spray-painting too.. Just don't know what sort of paint to buy. Any pointers?

  • Global Moderator
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I know they were painting them in the Southern Trout Eaters video but I think it was just generic spray paint. They were just getting a piece of cardboard and putting the eye of the hook through the cardboard to hold it in place and then spraying it. They were doing a few dozen at a time like that.

  • Super User
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I think it'd be cheaper for me to just buy the VMCs; rather than buy hooks, a can of paint, and then take the trouble to paint the hooks... The VMCs seem to be inexpensive, and I need new hooks anyway.

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White finger nail polish would work in a pinch. I have painted hooks red with fingernail polish. It doesn't last a long time but it's cheap, dries hard and quick.

Fingernail polish is great for jig heads also. I also use it as touch up paint for cranks and spinnerbait heads.

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You should only paint the shank of the treble white and leave the bends alone. The shank should only be painted if it is going to lay against the bait. If you have any part of a treble painted white that is not up against the belly it sticks out bad. I use a pearl powder paint. Its a pain to do but it lasts.

  • Super User
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So Matt, you're telling me those Perma-steel hooks can actually be detrimental? Just trying to clarify.

Nail polishing seems to be a nice way to do color them. I was reading up some stuff on calfishing today, and that's what the guy said he used. Thanks Tsuprum.

Grey Wolf, probably not. But who knows? I'm trying to find out...

  • Super User
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IMO, it's an exercise in futility. Everything works some of the time, nothing works all of the time.

  • Super User
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Do regular colored hooks really stop fish from hitting a moving bait ? Just asking.

I bet there are at least a few fish that are turned off by ANY hooks. There was a study done way back in the 30s that showed bass quickly learned to refuse night-crawlers impaled on a hook, but took them readily without. Grain of salt - this was done in a lab. But some of that probably carries over into the wilds. If it happens 100% in the lab, then a few will do it in the wild.

  • Super User
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I bet there are at least a few fish that are turned off by ANY hooks. There was a study done way back in the 30s that showed bass quickly learned to refuse night-crawlers impaled on a hook, but took them readily without. Grain of salt - this was done in a lab. But some of that probably carries over into the wilds. If it happens 100% in the lab, then a few will do it in the wild.

There are exceptions to every rule. :)

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It may or may not affect the bass to commit to bite the lure but it definitely helps in bringing the confidence of the person using the it. The more you are confident in the modified lure the better you work and present it. The better chance in getting that lunker to bite.

  • Super User
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Ordered those VMCs. Will also try the nail-polish thing.

Thanks everyone.

  • Super User
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I may like the action of 1 lure compared to another but in the end it's up to the fish, not me, I'm doing the presenting but they are doing the biting. Needless to say at times fish do not always cooperate to my satisfaction, for me it has nothing to do with confidence favoring 1 lure over another. So often after I've caught 1 fish I change lures just for variety, my production is generally at a constant level, I have confidence in me, not what lure I'm using.

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Go fish a Huddleston or other realistic swimbait without any hooks at all. Then use one with the trebles hanging down and you tell me if it makes a difference. When using swimbaits (real swimbaits) in most cases you are fishing the bait slow. It is NOT a reaction bite. Ususaly the fish get a good look at the bait when they eat it. Those big visable hooks absolutley can cause fewer bites. Sometimes they dont care and just blast it but Many times they turn away at the last second, or just follow it. It may or may not have been the hooks but something wasnt right to them so they didnt bite. Every swimbaiter knows exacty what I am talking about.

Deep my point is, bronze or black dont stick out that bad but white is the worst color for a hook thats not up against the belly of the bait. In other words if you have a white painted dangling treble on a hardbait, thats just drawing attention to the hooks. When I use a hook that is imbeded into the belly of a soft swimbait, I like to paint the shaft and a little bit of the bends to match the belly. It hides the hook well. If the whole hook were white you would see white points sticking out from the bait defeating the purpose of camoing the hook in the first place. Of course It all depends on what hook you use and how it sits against the bait.

  • Super User
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Got it Matt. Thanks once again.

Btw, do you embed one hook point in the belly of your floating U2 when deadsticking or let it dangle (hope you don't mind me asking)? Does that affect hookup ratio?

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I embed all my soft bodied treble when ever I can. I try to do as many thing as I can to make my lure look as real as I can. I will never match the real thing but the closer I get, the more and bigger bites I get.

  • Super User
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I embed all my soft bodied treble when ever I can. I try to do as many thing as I can to make my lure look as real as I can. I will never match the real thing but the closer I get, the more and bigger bites I get.

Will do. I bought one of your floating U2's yesterday. I'm thinking of deadsticking this in locations where I'd detect followers.

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