Brian4618 Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Would a Gamakatsu 2/0 or 1/0 octopus circle hook work as a wacky rig hook? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 24, 2009 Super User Posted July 24, 2009 Yes, but I don't use them. The reel up/just add pressure "hookset" just doesn't jive with me. I use these (1/0) with a flick hookset: http://www.ownerhooks.com/pages/products/hooks/allpurposebaithooks.htm Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted July 24, 2009 Super User Posted July 24, 2009 The regular Octopus hook is way better. I use a 2/0 for finesse worms, a 3/0 for Trick worms, and a 3/0 or 4/0 for Senkos. Another is the Owner Mosquito hook which has the same shape but a slightly smaller wire size (largest available is 2/0) The circle hook is not a hook-set type of hook and you will miss most hits if you set the hook. It is a let-them-run-with-it-and-maybe-it-will-catch-them-in-the-jaw type of hook. It is a good hook for tournament practice to avoid catching many. It is also one of the best for keeping them hooked if a hook-up occurs. Its main purpose is for bait fishing to lessen swallowed hooks since the hook will pull out of the gullet and maybe hook the jaw as the fish swims perpendicular to the line of pull. Example of the 2/0 Gammy Octopus #02412 hook with a finesse worm for open water use and weedless use: Quote
Koop Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 I use this for wacky whenever there are weeds in the area: http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_58035_100010002_100000000_100010000_100-10-2 And these when there are no weeds: http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_10202742_100010002_100000000_100010000_100-10-2 Quote
Super User Raul Posted July 25, 2009 Super User Posted July 25, 2009 Wayne 's wacky rig don 't woik at all, it don 't catch feesh ! Hey that sounded nice ---> Wayne 's Wacky Rig, I think we have a new rig here, that 's it ! from now on it will be named "Wayne 's wacky rig". Anybody got any objections in naming it so ? Quote
Super User Bassin_Fin@tic Posted July 25, 2009 Super User Posted July 25, 2009 I've been referring to it as rigging Wayne style. 8-) Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted July 26, 2009 Super User Posted July 26, 2009 Speaking of weedless wacky for Senko type baits, the Weedless Finesse Wide Gap Hook is not bad in the larger sizes like 3/0 and 4/0 but a better weedguard setup is an Octopus hook with a weedguard. Since no one makes them, but you can and very easily. Parts needed are a 4/0 Gammy Octopus Hook #02414, a piece of 1/8" electrical shrink tubing, and some stiff 20#-30# nylon mono or fluorocarbon line. Start with about 4" of fishing line, slip about 3/8" of the electrical shrink tubing on the hook shank, double the line and put it thru the hook eye and into the tubing. Adjust the length of the line loop to bend over and catch under the hook barb. Heat the shrink tubing slowly as not to over heat the line (I use a barbeque lighter) and clip off the excess line. It will look like this--it takes about 30 second to do one: Rig the hook in the Senko perpendicular as it will have a better hookup ratio than parallel with an O ring. Use a short piece of 3/8" electrical shrink tubing where you insert the hook and the Senko will last longer. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 26, 2009 Super User Posted July 26, 2009 The regular Octopus hook is way better. I use a 2/0 for finesse worms, a 3/0 for Trick worms, and a 3/0 or 4/0 for Senkos. Another is the Owner Mosquito hook which has the same shape but a slightly smaller wire size (largest available is 2/0)The circle hook is not a hook-set type of hook and you will miss most hits if you set the hook. It is a let-them-run-with-it-and-maybe-it-will-catch-them-in-the-jaw type of hook. It is a good hook for tournament practice to avoid catching many. It is also one of the best for keeping them hooked if a hook-up occurs. Its main purpose is for bait fishing to lessen swallowed hooks since the hook will pull out of the gullet and maybe hook the jaw as the fish swims perpendicular to the line of pull. Example of the 2/0 Gammy Octopus #02412 hook with a finesse worm for open water use and weedless use: That's interesting. But consider this. Years ago, commercial fishrmen, who "tub trawled" for cod, or "long lined" for swordfish changed to circle hooks, and the catch rates improved dramatically. Of course, there was no one to set the hook when a cod or swordfish took the bait with the regular hooks. I use circle hooks in 4/0 and 5/0 for wacky rigging. Once I got used to not setting the hook, I have had no problem with hookups. Quote
Koop Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 I agree with Rhino, I like circle hooks for wacky rigging. Quote
River Rat316 Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 I completely disagree with the notion that you will hookup with less fish with a circle, I use them all the time for wacky rigging and as soon as you get used to not setting the hook with them your hookup percentage will go way up. I started using them for my son cause he had a tuff time detecting bites and was deep hooking fish (so was I occasionally) and his hookups went way up so I switched and once you get used to it, its way better. No more deephooking aggressive fish they are all hooked in the corner of the mouth. Quote
Bass Junkie Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 I've used them in a pinch, but I bent the point out and used a regular hook set. i like weedless Eagle Claws for wacky rigs though. Quote
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