shutupnfish Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 I've used speed clips on crankbaits before with mono/fluoro with good results. Never lost a fish because of the clips failing and like others have stated, they give some baits more action. So I thought I'd try them on my froggin' rig. First cast with a white spro poppin' frog didn't even hit the water good and bam! I set the hook and got that broke off feelin'. Only it wasn't the line that broke, the speed clip failed. Maybe I had the drag a little snug, dunno. But I won't be using speed clips with braid anymore. Steve Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 25, 2009 Super User Posted July 25, 2009 I use braid but I always use a leader, just what I like, doesn't make it right or wrong. In fresh water I use a duolock and they last a long long time. Saltwater they will corrode after a while and weaken. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted July 25, 2009 Super User Posted July 25, 2009 I use Speed Clips with braid, but not on large wire hooks anymore. It seems like the effort to attach the clip to the bigger hooks makes them weaker. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 25, 2009 Super User Posted July 25, 2009 I was a big fan of speed clips. I no longer use them. While they may be OK on eyes with light gauge wire, when you flex them to install on the heavier hooks, there is a noticeably larger gap which may fail to make a secure connection on the lighter gauge wire. I've also had one fail at the flexing bend. So, they have been banished from my tackle boxes. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted July 25, 2009 Super User Posted July 25, 2009 Just something else to go wrong. Quote
Matt Jungblut Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 i use speed clips and braid together for all my cranks spinnerbaits and plastics line gets tied to the hook direct Quote
nitro929 Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 i am not a fan of useing any kind of clip of any kind i dont like them on a carolina rig but you have to i think its just another sourse for falure Quote
shutupnfish Posted July 26, 2009 Author Posted July 26, 2009 I will continue to use clips with crank baits, with mono or fluoro of course. It's not that I don't want to retie, I just like the added action it gives. Especially a wake bait. I agree Wayne, trying to clip a heavy hook or even a torpedo a few times seems to make them "soft." I've noticed that on a few of them. I'll definitely check the next one I tie on. Steve Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted July 26, 2009 Super User Posted July 26, 2009 Steve, if you want a more secure clip that can handle big hooks and big fish, the coastlock type is the strongest. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 26, 2009 Super User Posted July 26, 2009 BERKLEY crosslock snaps are the best. http://www.***.com/descpage-BCLSS.html Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted July 26, 2009 Super User Posted July 26, 2009 dodgeguy, I agree, forgot about that snap. It is the strongest in the smaller wire size snaps. The Coastlock snaps are made of a heavier wire and more difficult operate than the thinner wire Crosslock. Quote
Super User MALTESE FALCON Posted July 26, 2009 Super User Posted July 26, 2009 I use Duo Lock clips with mono and braid, and have never had a problem. I've never used Crosslocks, but a few of my buddys like them. Falcon Quote
shutupnfish Posted July 26, 2009 Author Posted July 26, 2009 We used something similar to the Berkley crosslock snap on our kingfish (mackerel) rigs in the gulf. Looks like the same design snap, with a barrel swivel added. Made leader changes a snap. : We quit using them after a nice size king straightened one out. Went back to using just a swivel. I'll have to check those out. Thanks ya'll. Steve Quote
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted July 26, 2009 Super User Posted July 26, 2009 i use the BPS brand duo-lock style clip for my crankbaits (with braid) and haven't had issues. Quote
LCpointerKILLA Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 speed clips and a snap? is it possible? Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 26, 2009 Super User Posted July 26, 2009 dodgeguy, I agree, forgot about that snap. It is the strongest in the smaller wire size snaps. The Coastlock snaps are made of a heavier wire and more difficult operate than the thinner wire Crosslock. the 3 size breaks at 30 psi.i tried it!!!it is small enough to embed in a plastic trick worm.if you use a hook like these http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_103724_100010002_100000000_100010000_100-10-2 you can t rig and hide the snap.it also sets the hook back furthur which i think works great. Quote
Stringjam Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 Cross-locking snaps are very secure. I like the Berkley snap....it's pretty easy to operate. If you want some heavy duty cross-lockers, pick up some C'ultiva's (Owner). They are STOUT. Even the smallest ones (which I highly recommend). I've tried out cross-locks from Berkley, Jespa (also good), P-Line, and Decoy, and the C'ultiva is definitely the strongest. The C'ultiva is on the left (Jespa on the right). The Jespa is the ultimate cross-locking finesse snap. Very light, but strong. You can see the difference in wire diameter. I also have some slightly larger C'ultivas that I bought accidentally that I think would be killer for larger species (and maybe swimbaits). They're insanely strong. Stay away from duo-locks if strength is your concern.......I would venture to guess that comments like "just something to fail" and the like stem from using cheap duo-locks. I can pull apart the BPS duo-locks tying a knot with 10 lb. test. Quote
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