tru510 Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Bass Pro Shops has the Pro Qualifier XPS Trigger Rods on sale. I was there yesterday and checked them out. I couldn't get any help they were swamped with customers. I have no idea on what rod specs to buy for my bait applications. I throw 1/4,3/8,1/2 spinnerbaits. I'm fishing off a boat on a lake with mild to med cover. What would be a good rod choice for the spinnerbait? What is a good length, action, m or mh? I also throw jiggs 3/8, 1/2 should I get a different rod for that or could I share the same rod? If I need another rod for the jigg application what would you suggest? I found a guy local that will sell me his shimano cumara 7'0" medium fast action model #cuc70m, Would this be a good spinnerbait or jigg rod?. He also has a shimano cumara 6'9" medium heavy ex. fast actions model #cuc69mh. Thanks in advance Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted September 19, 2011 Super User Posted September 19, 2011 I am a big fan of the PQ rods, and at clearance price they are a great deal. The 7' MXF is a very versatile rod, and is my favorite for unweighted plastics, and light trigs and jigs. I have fished 1/2 oz jigs in open water with it. The MHF fast would probably a better all round rod. At $79 buy both. With all that said the Cumaras are fine rods, in a completely different class than the PQ. The 6'9" MHXF would make a fine spinnerbait or jig rod. The MF would work well for your lighter baits, including square billed cranks IMO. If you can get a good deal on them do it. If I had deeper pockets I would own several. Quote
flippin4it. Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I have the Pro Qualifier 7ft med/hvy and found it to have a stiffer tip than say a Kistler/Shimano of the same rating. Not really a good choice for spinnerbaits but great for jigs and sost plastics. The 7ft medium would be great for spinnerbaits. l picked mine up on a sale, for the price the rod is hard to beat.. Just look at Edwin, he really uses them! Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I prefer to cast spinnerbaits to targets, so a shorter fast action rod works well. If you're distance casting to cover water, a longer rod will will better. A 7' MH worm/jig rod will work fine for spinnerbaits if you need a multi purpose rod. Quote
hookingem Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Those 2 rods Imo are in 2 totally different classes. It's like trying to compare a Honda to a BMW. With that being said if you are not worried about the money, go with the Cumara. The 7'0 M is a part of the Cumara reaction series It is an SUPER spinnerbait rod but would deff not be good for throwing jigs/worms . If you are looking for a versatile rod to throw spinnerbaits as well as jigs/worms I would go with the 6'9 mh Cumara. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted September 20, 2011 Super User Posted September 20, 2011 Growing up we used one rod for everything. I never knew there were technique specific rods. Therefore I am not knowledgeable about what power/action rod is best for a specific technique. It wasn't until I got back into fishing last year (and switched to BC gear) that I started reading up on rod specifics. Last couple times out I have only caught fish on a 1/2 oz. spinnerbait. I had it on a CUC-72 MH Fast Cumara. TW calls this rod the ideal Ika/Senko rod. Far as I'm concerned it handled the spinnerbait just fine. Far as I could tell, the bass and pickerel didn't notice anything un-kosher either! Quote
Packard Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 The BPS Extreme's are nice rods, I own two of them. But why compare them to a Cumara? Quote
breezy Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Ok, I'll try and keep this short and my rambling to a minimum I haven't used any PQ rods but if they're anything like the Carbonlites they're great for the money. IMO you would be hard pressed to find a better rod in the $100 price range to fit my tastes. Without a doubt the Cumara has the better blank, guides, warranty, etc. I would caution you against buying the Cumara just because it's available though; make sure it's really what you need/want. Both rods you listed appear to be in the Cumara Reaction line for moving baits. The 7' M would be great for small cranks but the mod/fast taper is not ideal for single hook baits such as jigs. The 6'9MH/xf is labeled a spinnerbait rod but without using the rod I can't comment on how well it would work for plastics. Ratings, whether it's power, lure, line or action, on rods vary so much between rods and manufacturers it's almost worthless. Hopefully someone can chime in on the 6'9MH/xf Cumara to give you some more info. With all that being said, I think the two techniques you mentioned here (spinnerbait & jig) can easily be covered by one rod: a 6'6 to 7' MH/Fast or XF action. A 6'6-7' MH rod will be the most versatile rod you own and will cover a wide variety of baits. Since you've already mentioned buying two rods, take that money and spend it on one better quality rod. You hear it repeated over and over on this forum but buying the best you can afford at the time is going to save you money down the road. The 'ideal' rod for techniques you listed are so similar you're better off with one high quality rod here. Pick up a Shimano, Dobyns, St Croix, etc or other rod with a lifetime warranty and no-fault replacement and you will be guaranteed a rod for life. Quote
Shane Procell Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Bass Pro Shops has the Pro Qualifier XPS Trigger Rods on sale. I was there yesterday and checked them out. I couldn't get any help they were swamped with customers. I have no idea on what rod specs to buy for my bait applications. I throw 1/4,3/8,1/2 spinnerbaits. I'm fishing off a boat on a lake with mild to med cover. What would be a good rod choice for the spinnerbait? What is a good length, action, m or mh? I also throw jiggs 3/8, 1/2 should I get a different rod for that or could I share the same rod? If I need another rod for the jigg application what would you suggest? I found a guy local that will sell me his shimano cumara 7'0" medium fast action model #cuc70m, Would this be a good spinnerbait or jigg rod?. He also has a shimano cumara 6'9" medium heavy ex. fast actions model #cuc69mh. Thanks in advance I own both of the Cumaras you mentioned. The 6-9" mhxf would work great for light cranks and spinnerbaits. The med action is just too soft for me for anything other than pan fishing. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted September 21, 2011 Super User Posted September 21, 2011 If you are looking for a versatile rod to throw spinnerbaits as well as jigs/worms I would go with the 6'9 mh Cumara. I disagree. The 6-9 Cumara isn't a rod that I'd fish bottom contact rods on at all. It would take a 3/4 ounce weight to load it to cast, it's got way too much power for jigs and such. The CUC69MH is purely a spinnerbait rod. It's a very, very good rod for casting short to mid length of spinnerbaits in 1/2 ounce and up. It's a very, very accurate rod for that purpose. The CUC70M is a super rod for fishing midd and shallow cranks, it's a perfect squarebill rod. It's very good for fishing 3/16 and 1/4 spinnerbaits when fan casting or casting grass lines, it's also a superb Wiggle Wart and Fat Rap rod. It will handle baits up to a Deep LIttle N with ease. It's a great rod for any sort of small to mid sized moving bait in and around wood. If you're looking for the rod in the bunch that's an "all around" it's the Pro Qualifier. It will handle the combination of baits better than any of the other rods you've listed. The Cumara reaction rods just don't fare well with bottom contact baits, the action of the rods aren't suited to it at all. Quote
tru510 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Posted September 21, 2011 Thanks for all the advice, after reading this all the response I will go with the bps rod that's on sale. Only reason I threw the other brand of rods out there is because a local guy had them used. So I will be buying the rods online tomorrow. I'm assuming I would get the 7" m fast for the spinner correct? Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted September 21, 2011 Super User Posted September 21, 2011 7' MH Pro Qualifier is what you'd be after for 1/4-1/2 ounce spinnerbaits and jigs. Quote
hookingem Posted September 21, 2011 Posted September 21, 2011 Hooligan you are correct the 6'9 would not be a good rod for jigs I knew the 7'0 M was a part of the reaction line but didn't know if the 6'9 was. Quote
Super User CWB Posted September 21, 2011 Super User Posted September 21, 2011 Don't sell the PQ's short. $140.00 rod for $79.99 is pretty god deal. I picked up a 6'6" med Spinning and 6'6" MHF casting. Very light and sensitive. And they both have solid grips, which I prefer, not split grips. They are most likely going to revamp the lineup. The 6'6" is perfect for skipping an pitching weightless senkos etc. Soft enough tip and plenty of backbone. Haven't tried the baitcaster yet but I suspect it would handle spinnerbaits with no problems like DVT has said. I try not to carry too many rigs with me (4-5)so I need versatility and I think both of these rods will serve me well. I do keep 2 rods in the locker that are dedicated to one bait. Both 7'6" Extremes. One medium for Rage Shads and One MH for froggin. Braid mandatory. The other will be rigged according to the conditions and time of year. Quote
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