Modified Improved Clinch???

[philsoreel]

Has anyone ever tried tying an Improved Clinch knot, but instead of making just one pass through the eye of the hook make two like a Trilene or Uni? On Knot Wars, knots that went through the eye twice outperformed knots that only went through once so I thought I'd give it a try.

[ChrisAW]

Has anyone ever tried tying an Improved Clinch knot, but instead of making just one pass through the eye of the hook make two like a Trilene or Uni? On Knot Wars, knots that went through the eye twice outperformed knots that only went through once so I thought I'd give it a try.

Yup! This is the knot I use for mono. I always thought it was the improved clinch knot, but that is tied once through the eye. Then I thought it was the Trilene, but they don't pass through the last loop like the improved. So I've been tying it the way you're describing for years now, and its a great knot, that is quick and easy to tie.

I only have one application with mono on it anymore, and its my topwater/spinnerbait rod with 15# Big Game. Instead of 5 wraps with 15#, I only do 4. I found 5 were hard to get cinched down all the way, and the little tests I've done showed no strength lost. 12# and lower, I do 5 wraps.

If you're using flourocarbon, this knot tends to break well below strength rating. So I'd say try something different. The knot Shaw Grigsby uses has served me well since I learned it, but I can't remember the name.

[BassThumb]

I've tried it, but I still prefer the Improved Clinch for all lines other than braid. The Modified Improved Clinch is a terrible knot for fluorocarbon, in my opinion. There's too much friction when tightening the knot due to the second pass thru the eye, and the line tends to burn and weaken.

[B-Dozer]

Agree with BassThumb on this. I do a lot of flyfishing and an improved clinch is the knot of choice for that reason.(tippet to fly)

[philsoreel]

Normally, on fluorocarbon I just use a Uni because I've never had a knot failure with it, that includes a 10lb 4 oz. and a 10lb 10oz. this year. I started using that knot on Toray Solaroam because Tackle Tour's test data showed it to be the strongest knot for that line. Now, I'm using Shooter and TT's test data shows the Improved Clinch being the strongest knot for Shooter. That's why I'm using it. The regular Improved Clinch I can cinch down without much stress on the line, but doubled through the eye it get's tricky.

[Jig Man]

Learn the 16/20 and you won't need any other knot.

[Goose52]

I started using that knot a while back on spinnerbaits and buzzbaits. Two passes around the wire just seemed to anchor the knot better than one pass around. I always wet my knots when I cinch them down. SBs and buzzers are the only thing I use that knot for. The rest of the time I use the regular improved clinch or a palomar.

[SirSnookalot]

That knot almost looks like a doubled over loopknot pulled all the way down so there is no loop. It may be strong but a double clinch knot tied correctly is strong enough to handle Moby Dick. Even ocean offshore I mostly use plain clinch,

[The Rooster]

When you tie your clinch knot, do you actually wrap it around the line or do you just twist the bait or hook to achieve the same effect? I've always just twisted the lure to get it and never counted the twists so I have no idea how many times it wrapped but it's always worked for me. I guess that's the laziness in me.

Since learning the speed knot though I've virtually stopped using the clinch knot for anything except the very lightest stuff that makes tying a speed knot too hard (tying a speed knot works better with weighted stuff), and even then if it's fluoro line I just switch to the Eugene knot, which is very similar to the speed knot.

[J Francho]

Here you go guys: http://fishgator.com/fishing-kayak-reviews/how-to-tie-the-fishgator-knot/

This is a knot my friend Paul developed over the last two years. He's added several king salmon, approaching 40 lbs to the list of fish caught on this knot. I'm starting to use it now. Super easy.

[The Rooster]

The link says the site owner's bandwidth has been exceeded and won't show it.

[J Francho]

Thanks for the heads up Rooster. Probably cos 1/2 of BR clicked, LOL. Here's the direct link to the YouTube video, though you'll miss the the background of the knot:

[The Rooster]

I figured that's what happened.