Tried Flipping With Flouro.

[HookSetDon]

I spooled up with 25 lb invisix and went out with it a few times and had a lot of trouble keeping the line on the spool. Felt too springy also not the same connection I had with the jig compared to using braid. I even bought some line conditioner to see if it would help with the springyness and the spool jumping. Is this normal

[Sam]

HookSet, what is your setup?

25 pound line is heavy for bass.

May I suggest downsizing to 8 to 12 pounds on a spinning rig and 12 to 17 on a baitcaster?

An old rule was Mono for treble hook baits and Fluoro for everything else.

However, today the pros are throwing Fluoro for everything, including crankbaits.

Also, one last question: Are you overspooling the reels? You know to leave an 1/8 inch from the top of the spool open from the top of the line. More space if necessary to avoid the line from flying off the reel.

If you are fishing in lots of cover or structure and want a tough line consider braid.

[Sam]

One other suggestion when the line spirals off the spinning reel:

Keep the bail closed.

Loosen the drag.

Pull the line off the spool with bail closed.

This is an old pro's trick and it works.

If you open the bail the line will shoot off the spinning reel causing a disaster.

Let us know how you do.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Line memory is the main drawback to fluoro lines and 25# is pretty heavy making matters worse. Flipping and pitching are prime applications for baided lines. If you want to experiment further with straight fluoro try it for casting spinner baits, t-rigs or jigs. Personally, I don't care for fluoro for anything but leaders.

[Hooligan]

I prefer to flip with fluoro, too. It's something that takes getting used to, and more training for your thumb. Unlike what Sam says, keep your spool as full as possible and increase your tension a bit. You'll still feel like line is running off a bit until you get used to it. I pitch all my jigs on 20lb Tatsu and wouldn't trade it for the world.

[J Francho]

I've flip with 20-30# Seaguar, I wouldn't say that's too heavy at all, especially if abrasion is your main concern. You have to pretreat it with KVD Line & Lure Conditioner. It also help to give a spritz or two during the day.

[Lucky Craft Man]

I used 25 lb. Fluoro. for Flipping and Punching duties. If you treat your line (as has been mentioned) and have a well trained thumb, that uncoiling effect is minimized.

[Al Wolbach]

I prefer to flip with fluoro, too. It's something that takes getting used to, and more training for your thumb. Unlike what Sam says, keep your spool as full as possible and increase your tension a bit. You'll still feel like line is running off a bit until you get used to it. I pitch all my jigs on 20lb Tatsu and wouldn't trade it for the world.

Ditto. The advantages out weigh the disadvantages. I have been pitching with 20 lb floro for years and still must make a short cast occasionally to clear the reel..........Al

[clayton86]

I have #20 vanish for flipping on one rod and #50 power pro for fliping on another and I personaly like the flouro better for flipping and pitching. Maybe its me but braid gets hung up more and my rig just dangles. Where when I toss the flouro in there it seems to slide threw cover better. It does take some getting used to I supose and a well trained thumb for sure.

[Red]

I have recently started using 20# Invizx for my flippin and pitchin needs. I really like it, no line conditioner and I don't have any issues with it, Of course, I have never tried 25#.

[Sam]

I flip and pitch with a spinning rig using 8 to 10 pound flouro and never had a problem.

It is foreign to me to use such heavy line to flip and pitch unless you are casting into heavy grass, pads, weeds or going deep.

Any line that is 20 pound test or greater is used for catfish and saltwater.

[Hooligan]

I flip and pitch with a spinning rig using 8 to 10 pound flouro and never had a problem.

It is foreign to me to use such heavy line to flip and pitch unless you are casting into heavy grass, pads, weeds or going deep.

Any line that is 20 pound test or greater is used for catfish and saltwater.

#1 around here, you couldn't get away with it on a spinning rod, you don't have enough line control or power without going to a 5000 size reel. #2 The entire reason for heavier test in flipping is because you're in heavy/abrasive cover. 8 or 10lb would net you a lost jig every time.

It's all about where you are and what you're doing. Most generally, however, flipping isn't a light line technique.

[ChrisAW]

+1 for Flipping with Invisx (15lb for me.)

I had 20# on and I just didn't see a point in using such a heavy line for my application. I stepped down to 15# and haven't had any trouble at all yet. But I agree, if you're using it around heavy cover or rocks, I would probably stick with at LEAST 17 or higher.

I have a braid 7'6" pitching rig for heavy cover. I use the 15lb flouro with a shorter rod around docks or area's of sparse cover.

I personally like flouro SO much better for pitching. It just comes off the reel and through the guides much smoother, and I can get farther pitches without being anymore than a foot from surface of the water.

[jj2]

25# is a lot heavier than i've ever used I normally use 15# and nothing over 17# but 1 thing that seems to help if you can before you go fishing is hook your line on something and walk back and pull what line you think you will cast and just pull the line tight to stretch the memory out and spray a little kvd on it as you reel back up

[Pantera61]

I'm back to 25#lb flouro after testing back and forth between braid and flouro. I'll go against the grain and state flouro blows braid away sensitivity-wise. Same rod/same reel/same bait/same type cover, two different types of flouro, two different types of braid. I brought several fish to the boat without even feeling them with braid, no feel, no hookset, no fish. Using flouro felt the strikes immediately, the hookset followed and the bass joined me in the boat.

My theory? The braid simply coils on itself when it hits an obstruction, the flouro, having more stiffness and density can help push the bait through and telegraphs the vibration. Don't believe it? Make paper cup telephones using flouro and braid, any limpness in the braid, the vibrations aren't carried as well.

[J Francho]

I'll go against the grain and state flouro blows braid away sensitivity-wise.

Actually, that's the consensus, for those in the know. It's a combination of what you spoke of and density.

Simply put, fluoro transmits bites better on a semi slack line that is so common with fishing "feel" baits.

[Pantera61]

Actually, that's the consensus, for those in the know. It's a combination of what you spoke of and density.

Simply put, fluoro transmits bites better on a semi slack line that is so common with fishing "feel" baits.

In the know being the operative phrase. I think the one advantage of braid does have over flouro is the ability to slice through vegetation. Like most things it's a bit of a trade off but when push comes to shove let me detect the fish and worry about getting him out as opposed to poke and hope.

On a related topic, I had my eyes opened about how sensitive a mod-fast can be ...

[msolorio]

i use 20 pound fluoro for flippin n pitchin n never had a problem at all, like mentioned above ya just gotta get more experienced with ur thumb, it took me a lil practice but now i love it. i fish some pretty gnarly stuff n never have issues.

[flippin and pitchin]

I'm a #20 Flouro guy. Check your line often and retie as needed.

[dodgeguy]

no way on earth flouro is more sensitive than braid in any situtation.i feel bites on slack line just fine with 832.how much slack are we talking about?

[ChrisAW]

no way on earth flouro is more sensitive than braid in any situtation.i feel bites on slack line just fine with 832.how much slack are we talking about?

Its sensitive enough that I've felt the bite on completely curled/slack line laying on the water. It was VERY light, and I may have only felt it because I seen the line twitch, but I did feel the tap.

Flouro is very dense, and transmits a bite like an electrical signal in a wire. I feel like I'm cheating.

Not to say braid isn't sensitive, but I've never felt a bite on slack line. I've only caught bites on slack braid when line watching.