jmed999 Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I know fluoro is great for leaders but when is it better than mono when using it as a spool full? Since fluoro sinks is it better for bottom fishing, ie. t&c rigging? Is it better when using senkos? In your opinion when is a reel full of fluoro better than mono? Thanks! Quote
LuckyHandsINC. Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I prefer it for any bottom contact or finesse application. Anytime sensitivity is key. Right now I have it.on my football head rod my t rig rod and my dropshot rod. Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted August 9, 2011 Super User Posted August 9, 2011 I am trying some 15# X50 and it is stiff, casts poorly & I had a knot slip Today ... I don't understand and it has memory ! I am not ready to give up on it yet but I will bet you it becomes leaders... Sorry just my $.02 Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted August 9, 2011 Super User Posted August 9, 2011 I am trying some 15# X50 and it is stiff, casts poorly & I had a knot slip Today ... I don't understand and it has memory ! I am not ready to give up on it yet but I will bet you it becomes leaders... Sorry just my $.02 Try KVD line and lure that and iv read flouro has a break in period where the more u fish it the more manageable it becomes. As for the OP I use 20lb vanish for flipping jigs and other trigged baits on tungsten heads Quote
zachb34 Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Ive never used flouro either so how is it more sensitive if it gets into coils? Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted August 9, 2011 Super User Posted August 9, 2011 Ive never used flouro either so how is it more sensitive if it gets into coils? I'm going to say from my VERRRRY limited use of it it acts like a wire. Quote
BobP Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Fluoro or copolymer can both get reel memory, it just depends on the formulation of the respective lines. There are 'soft finish' versions of each that get less memory but have more stretch. Hard finish versions of both typically have less stretch, better durability and knot strength. I always use fluoro on "still" presentations like worms or jigs where sensitivity is paramount but I often use it on other presentations like crankbaits too. You can't really divorce the line type from the rod you are using when you're talking about what's best for a particular presentation. If you're throwing crankbaits on a soft fiberglass rod, fluoro has less stretch and more sensitivity than copolymer so might be the better choice. On a stiffer graphite rod, copolymer's increased stretch may work better for you. It's really just up to you and how you fish. I use fluoro for most presentations except topwaters. I also like that it is not affected by UV light and will last much longer than copolymer lines on the reel. I expect to fish a spool of fluoro until it becomes too short to fill the reel to a proper level. Meanwhile, I'll have changed out copolymer line several times due to UV degradation. BTW, I fill my spools with mono backing about half way before adding the fluoro. No sense spooling expensive fluoro that will never see the light of day. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted August 9, 2011 Super User Posted August 9, 2011 Ive never used flouro either so how is it more sensitive if it gets into coils? It's the density of the line that acts as a transmitter, opposed to other lines being too limp and not dense enough in various situations. When braid is under bressure, because it has zero stretch, it transmits excellent. When it is loose, or slack, it cannot transmit any vibration. Mono is much the same, but the biggest factor that effects the sensitivity of mono is the stretch it has. Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted August 9, 2011 Super User Posted August 9, 2011 It's the density of the line that acts as a transmitter, opposed to other lines being too limp and not dense enough in various situations. When braid is under bressure, because it has zero stretch, it transmits excellent. When it is loose, or slack, it cannot transmit any vibration. Mono is much the same, but the biggest factor that effects the sensitivity of mono is the stretch it has. J Francho has said a few times on here and when we went fishing about watching a fish in a tank and using flouro over braid or mono and that the flouro transmits the bite even on a slack line. Where as mono and braid don't Quote
jmed999 Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 I prefer it for any bottom contact or finesse application. Anytime sensitivity is key. Right now I have it.on my football head rod my t rig rod and my dropshot rod. Thanks for your answer...that's kinda what I thought. Sounds like it is best when using it for bottom fishing. Anyone else? Quote
Bass_Fanatic Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 It will also get a crankbait to dive a little deeper than Mono because it sinks. Quote
Super User Alpster Posted August 9, 2011 Super User Posted August 9, 2011 I have been very fortunate to be able to fish with and to try nearly every line there is. There are many threads here that will tout the benefits of fluorocarbon line. Co-polymer, mono and braided lines work and behave so well that I don't understand why anyone would choose slinky spring, wiry fluoro line that kinks and breaks off by just tying a simple knot. Other lines work so well for me that it's not worth dealing with the drawbacks of flouro. Nothing is more sensitive than braid, you need the the 'give' of mono or co-polymers on treble hook lures & spinnerbaits. Fluoro is expensive and a hassle to fish with. JMHE Ronnie Quote
zachb34 Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I guess I will have to try flouro on my next trip this weekend thanks for all the advice. Quote
jmed999 Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 I guess I will have to try flouro on my next trip this weekend thanks for all the advice. I'll give it a try for bottom fishing. Sounds like it isn't too popular except for leaders around here. Thanks for the help everyone! Quote
PondBoss Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 Ever since starting to use Fluoro I've become a big fan. It took me a few different tries to find the right line, but I've settled on P-line, Berkley 100%, and Stren 100%. I use it full spool on my crankbait rod, and about 30-50 yard stretches on my flipping and pitching rods. It definitely transmits better than mono, and unlike braid you can feel a bite on slack line. To battle any memory, I've used Real Magic and it's the cat's meow. Give each reel a couple of shots right before use and one or two through out the day, my line memory problems have ceased. Quote
Brand0n Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 ive used p-line floroclear and it has more stretch than mono to me. ive used it numerous times with kvd line conditioner. it casts decent but the stretch is so bad. line memory was alright. i wanted to ease into using flouro but that made me go back to mono for now. Quote
The Rooster Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 I've only ever tried the Berkley Vanish fluoro line, but I've never had a problem with it like I've read that many others have. I use it because it sinks, and for the supposed sensitivity of it. But I wouldn't be able to tell you if it really is more sensitive than mono because I've never tried mono on the rod I use fluoro on. I do know it sinks though, and use it for that purpose. It also is stiffer than mono so I have not tried it on a spinning reel. On a casting reel, no problems, and I never get any coils on the water with it either. I've used it with and without KVD line conditioner. The conditioner did soften it up but it fished fine without it also. Oh, and it does stretch, a LOT. Some say it won't but what I'm using sure will, just like mono does. Quote
FourCorners Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 I'd definitely give fluorocarbon a try. I mainly fished with P-line but I've gradually started switching my reels over to fluoro due to increased sensitivity. If you do get some, spend a little more and get some decent line. I've only tried Invizx but I've enjoyed it and really haven't had a desire to experiment with other lines. If you're gonna use spinning gear, I wouldn't go above 10# test and also be sure to manually close the bail for fewer line twists. I know a lot of guys like line conditioner but I've never used it. However, my highest rated fluoro is only 12# so it may be necessary for lines greater than 15# Quote
jayo123456 Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 I have been very fortunate to be able to fish with and to try nearly every line there is. There are many threads here that will tout the benefits of fluorocarbon line. Co-polymer, mono and braided lines work and behave so well that I don't understand why anyone would choose slinky spring, wiry fluoro line that kinks and breaks off by just tying a simple knot. Other lines work so well for me that it's not worth dealing with the drawbacks of flouro. Nothing is more sensitive than braid, you need the the 'give' of mono or co-polymers on treble hook lures & spinnerbaits. Fluoro is expensive and a hassle to fish with. JMHE Ronnie what about dropshotting, on a super cautious bite day? I'd attest I get more bites using a high quality fluoro (sunline), vs. my friend who uses braid with fluoro leader. could be the shadow casted by the braid, or if the fish comes behind and sees the braid from a horizontal dropshot presentation, or since braid floats so it creates a bow in the line at greater depths? I'm not sure.... but I definately notice I get more bites using fluoro on really slow bite days. agree that it's a pain to use, hate how it comes off my spinning spool.....but as long as I keep a finger on the spinning spool, and let the line come off in a controlled manner, I think the tradeoff is worth it. I was an all braid not too long ago, but I now believe each of the three types of lines has it's time and place. just my opinion... though my opinion on fishing changes constantly as I learn. Quote
jayo123456 Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 ive used p-line floroclear and it has more stretch than mono to me. ive used it numerous times with kvd line conditioner. it casts decent but the stretch is so bad. line memory was alright. i wanted to ease into using flouro but that made me go back to mono for now. I've used a spool of that....the copolamar one right? if so, I didn't like that line feel wise at all. The stretch absorbed too much bottom feel and light bites. Try sunline guide special (i think it's called). Expensive, but worth it imo. It's very hard and crisp. Doesn't come off your spool too well, but with some thumb manipulation, it's manageable. Quote
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