basslover12345 Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 I was just reading an article and found this info very interesting that the author of the article wrote: So let me explain how it works; #1, you cast out the sponsored bait product (whatever bait or baits the show is sponsored by, keeping in mind that the fish were actually caught prior to the show, and in most cases on totally different bait). #2, while you start your retrieve, you rare back with your rod like you just got a strike and pretend to set the hook! (on actually nothing at all). Then the camera will stop filming. #3, then, you simply reel your sponsored bait back in to the boat, grab a fish (in the case of a bass show, a bass) out of the livewell and place the hook of the “sponsored product” in the fish’s mouth. #4, Next you place the fish back into the water (with ease, and always keeping the slack out of your line), then you let the fish swim away from the boat. #5, then at this time, the camera starts rolling again and starts filming you fighting the fish back to the boat!...(Really quite simple!) Is this true with shows like The bass pros, Bill Dance's and Roland Martin's show? What do you guys think? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 22, 2011 Super User Posted July 22, 2011 LOL, what do you think? Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted July 22, 2011 Super User Posted July 22, 2011 I don't think so now ike talks in his book bout how photos are staged but I doubt the actual show is I mean anythings possiable I guess but like I said in a simular thread. Explain fake catching sharks and marlin on tv Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 22, 2011 Super User Posted July 22, 2011 Seems like more work to fake it, LMAO. Just go catch a fish! Quote
Bdugg Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 editing is a huge part of all outdoors type of shows. they fish for about 8 or 10 hours and only show 6 or 8 hook ups. Also I believe that some (bill D) fish on private stocked ponds. Brian Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 22, 2011 Super User Posted July 22, 2011 Here's a real fishing show: http://www.lunkerville.com/ 1 Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted July 22, 2011 BassResource.com Administrator Posted July 22, 2011 Oh bother - this stupid myth continues to circulate through the web. It's absolutely false! I've seen them shoot these shows, and trust me, nobody is manually hooking fish and putting them in the water. You gotta be pretty darn gullible to believe this lie! 1 Quote
basslover12345 Posted July 22, 2011 Author Posted July 22, 2011 I actually don't believe it, but my Grandpa does Quote
James Yalem Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 · Hidden by Glenn, July 22, 2011 - Total lie Hidden by Glenn, July 22, 2011 - Total lie Roland Martin was caught years ago on LOZ doing that very thing.
Super User tomustang Posted July 22, 2011 Super User Posted July 22, 2011 It's a product showcase, of course it staged, how much? Not sure. Look at Bear Grylls, after every night filming he un-roughs it by sleeping in a hotel, how's that for not having water for days Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted July 22, 2011 Super User Posted July 22, 2011 the only thing you can say about Bill is: he has the best bloopers and he must have a "play with the fish at the boat" fetish. Quote
bosshogg Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 · Hidden by Glenn, July 22, 2011 - total lie Hidden by Glenn, July 22, 2011 - total lie This has been a well known common practice for many, many years, especially when they filmed shows in Florida during the winter months. I have had personal experience and knowledge of this happening in the past. Just shows what some "professionals" will do in response to $$$$$$$$. It is their livelyhood, and it's entertainment at best.
Super User grimlin Posted July 22, 2011 Super User Posted July 22, 2011 Anything is possible.Money talks and people will do anything to earn a buck or two. I'm not saying I believe it.....But I wouldn't throw the theory out completely if a person is desperate enough. Quote
SENKOSAM Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 Editing a show is not as bad as mentioning only sponsor products similar to Banjo Minnow and Roland's Helicopter Lure shows. At least Al Lindner and clan showed many lures by many companies and ways to fish them, regardless of the editing that always showed many lunkers on every outing. Truth in advertising has never applied to fishing and probably never will whereas word-of-mouth and forums usually don't spread hype and underwater photography does paint a picture few can dispute. In that respect, I still have a bit of respect for the Bass Professor whose shows usually showed lures being worked and fish being caught underwater. Quote
hatrix Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 It's a product showcase, of course it staged, how much? Not sure. Look at Bear Grylls, after every night filming he un-roughs it by sleeping in a hotel, how's that for not having water for days I doubt he gets picked up in the middle of no where and sleeps in a hotel each night. I will admit he does get assistance with things and he doesn't do it all "himself" he also has a camera guy following him who has to go through the same things he does. Regardless if he sleeps in a hotel or not and I doubt that he does, it doesn't change the fact that I am sure that guy can really survive in the wild by him self. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted July 23, 2011 Super User Posted July 23, 2011 It's a product showcase, of course it staged, how much? Not sure. Look at Bear Grylls, after every night filming he un-roughs it by sleeping in a hotel, how's that for not having water for days He puts some wierd stuff in his mouth. That trumps the hotel sleeping. Quote
shootermcbob Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 I doubt he gets picked up in the middle of no where and sleeps in a hotel each night. I will admit he does get assistance with things and he doesn't do it all "himself" he also has a camera guy following him who has to go through the same things he does. Regardless if he sleeps in a hotel or not and I doubt that he does, it doesn't change the fact that I am sure that guy can really survive in the wild by him self. Do an internet search, you will find that he was indeed "caught" at a hotel while supposedly "surviving in the wild". The show then came forth with a statement that he does receive "assistance" and Bear's safety trumps all. He obviously has a cameraman with him at all times, which is more than likely a support team. Quote
ripinthem Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 I don't think this happens, but I do think they fish in places that are better managed/stocked, than I get to fish. Quote
breezy Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 I've heard things like this, fish being hooked by divers etc I have no personal experience so I'm not sure if they go that far. Of course they are going to edit shows to highlight the biggest fish and sponsors. One pays the bills, and I'm sure the public is more entertained (and likely to buy their product) when an angler is catching 25lb limits. I doubt ALL fish are caught beforehand and they simply fake the fish, but it wouldn't surprise me. Especially fish being caught on other baits and edited or staged to showcase a product. I would love to see some 'real' footage without too much editing and see pros being skunked or catching some dinks. Is the average person going to wanna watch a 30min show with no fish? Or buy the product that didn't produce anything? No. In the end it's a business and their goal is to make money... Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted July 25, 2011 Super User Posted July 25, 2011 . I would love to see some 'real' footage without too much editing and see pros being skunked or catching some dinks. Lunkerville is your answer. Quote
Randall Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 If you don't see it from the cast all the way to the net/hand etc. uncut it probably never happend that way. Quote
Quillback Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 If you want to watch pros having a tough time, watch Ultimate Match Fishing. Quote
Sfritr Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 You can tell the heat of the summer is here. :_ Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted July 25, 2011 Super User Posted July 25, 2011 Watch city limits with ike he gets skunked a lot or falls short Quote
Super User South FLA Posted July 25, 2011 Super User Posted July 25, 2011 Who the heck cares if the fish was really caught with x brand lure and if the footage is 100% accurate? Its entertainment! To me shows are supposed to be entertaining not boring and real all the time, I like when Bill hooks a MONSTER in a PIT using whatever lure and you can hear the line TWANG, I don't like it when they are catching DINKS all day and the footage and sound looks like my teenage nephew filmed it with his go pro camera! By the way that show where Roland and Scott were slaying bass on the BIG O with Spro Aruka shads was real, I saw them filming it! I can tell you for sure though that they were not only throwing Aruka lipless, but others to get the school frenzied. If you watch the footage you'll notice that one rod has a diamond shad or rattle trap on it. Anyway, bass fishing is BIG business and from local sponsors to international sponsors it only sweetens the pot and makes fishing better for ALL of us as bass fisherman, so go ahead and SELL out it makes it better for ALL. Quote
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