Owner vs Gamakatsu

[basspimple]

i like owners for heavier texas rigs, but i use gams for finesse baits. both are great hooks, but its like comparing apples and oranges.

[Pantera61]

gam

[SJex]

The name says it all OWNER.

[5bass]

I use both but I think Owners are the better hook.

Does the word 'Gammy' bother anybody else or is it just me?

[BenoBreath]

I like them both.

The Owner Rig-n-Hook for thicker tubes & grubs.

Gammy G-lock EWG for stickbaits & worms.

[ptomacbass]

I use both but I think Owners are the better hook.

Does the word 'Gammy' bother anybody else or is it just me?

It bothers me.  It also bothers me when people say"Gamagatsu"

[Willzx225]

After I lost two fish that cost me winning a BFL on Gamakatsu's due to flexing and opening up, I switched to Owner and have never looked back.  I also had problems with the Gamakatsu points rolling.  My question is this.  Would you rather pay a little more for a better, more durable hook and use one or two per trip or pay a little less and hope you don't either loose a fish or two that might make the difference between winning and loosing or break the hook all together.  Oh yeah and use 3 or 4 hooks over the course of the day?  Once you take all of that into concideration you actually pay less for the Owners.

In response to the "larger hole made by the cutting point hook" argument.  For the most part, if you keep pressure on the fish at all times it won't matter if there is a larger hole.  Slack line has accounted for most of the lost fish.

[vatech]

I use both but I think Owners are the better hook.

Does the word 'Gammy' bother anybody else or is it just me?

I prefer "Gammie." Big difference.

[Jeff H]

If you are bending a standard wire Gamakatsu on a fish, there is something more wrong than just the hook.  I have bent hooks and lost fish but they were lightwire Slider hooks.  I have a hard time believing anyone is bending a Gamakatsu that bad, but I imagine it could happen.

I've never liked Owner hooks, I prefer Gamakatsu, Mustad or VMC and just could not ever imagine bending a EWG Superline....even in slop on a big fish.  I would have to be direct witness to that to beleive it.

[NOVA Angler]

If you are bending a standard wire Gamakatsu on a fish, there is something more wrong than just the hook. I have bent hooks and lost fish but they were lightwire Slider hooks. I have a hard time believing anyone is bending a Gamakatsu that bad, but I imagine it could happen.

I've never liked Owner hooks, I prefer Gamakatsu, Mustad or VMC and just could not ever imagine bending a EWG Superline....even in slop on a big fish. I would have to be direct witness to that to beleive it.

I have also bent the standard wire Gamakatsu EWG hooks with a Medium Light spinning rod and 30lb Power Pro.  It's not that hard to do.  The Superline hook was very unexpected, but it sounds like others have had it happen too.  Braid makes a huge difference.  

[bigtimfish]

I use both but I think Owners are the better hook.

Does the word 'Gammy' bother anybody else or is it just me?

It bothers me. It also bothers me when people say"Gamagatsu"

I hate when people say gamagatsu to.

[RoLo]

There is no clear cut winner between Owner and Gamakatsu hooks, they're both excellent premium hooks.

Neither hook is stronger or weaker than the other, because both brands offer many varieties.

Let's compare the shank diameters of three of the most popular 4/0 offset hooks:

Gammy Std (ser-54) Gammy Super Line (ser-74) Owner offset mod-5102

0.050" 0.062" 0.062"

The most significant difference between Owner and Gamakatsu is not quality, strength or sharpness.

The biggest difference is the method used in sharpening the hook-point.

While Gamakatsu grinds a "conical point", Owner swages a "cutting point".

Given a choice (not always the case), I would opt for Owner's cutting point

because it generates less compression during penetration.

Nonetheless, in the grand scheme you'd do fine with either hook brand, where other factors usually play a larger role.

Roger

[Pantera61]

There is no cut-and-dried winner between Owner and Gamakatsu hooks, they are both excellent premium hooks.

Neither hook is stronger or weaker than the other, because both brands offer many varieties.

Let's compare the shank diameters of three of the most popular 4/0 offset hooks:

Gammy Std (ser-54) Gammy Super Line (ser-74) Owner offset mod-5102

0.050" 0.062" 0.062"

The most significant difference between Owner and Gamakatsu is not quality, strength or sharpness.

The biggest difference is the method used in sharpening the hook-point.

While Gamakatsu grinds a "conical point", Owner swages a "cutting point".

Given a choice (not always the case), I would opt for Owner's cutting point

because it generates less compression during penetration.

Nonetheless, in the grand scheme you'd do fine with either hook brand, where other factors usually play a larger role.

Roger

There ya go now, injecting common sense and fact into the discussion.

[kms399]

I have always used gammies and have been looking at switching. I keep bending the hook point out so that it does not allow for skin hooking the baits. I have also had problems with the point rolling over. i use braid between 20 and 40 lbs. and typically avoid the really heavy stuff. I need a heavy rod. I suppose I will go buy some owner hooks and see how that goes.

[DINK WHISPERER]

I have always used gammies and have been looking at switching. I keep bending the hook point out so that it does not allow for skin hooking the baits. I have also had problems with the point rolling over. i use braid between 20 and 40 lbs. and typically avoid the really heavy stuff. I need a heavy rod. I suppose I will go buy some owner hooks and see how that goes.

When you use braid you need to switch to SuperLine hooks. The braid has no stretch and will bend a regular Gammy on a hookset into a dink!