trevor Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 It seems that more and more rod manufacturers are going with foam grips. :angry: So do you guys like these new foam grips, and do you think they are here to stay, or will cork make a comeback? Quote
Stasher1 Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 I prefer cork, but with the scarcity of quality cork and the rising prices on what cork is available, I think it's just a matter of time until EVA (or something similar) replaces cork on all but the most expensive (or custom) rods. It seems as though it's already happened in the ~$100 rod market. FWIW, that foam/cork stuff that Fenwick uses looks pretty cool. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 15, 2011 Super User Posted July 15, 2011 The same thing happened in the 90s. That's where the split rear grip started. Quote
Canga Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 i prefer cork to foam, but see cork coming to an end in the less than $150 market, and some above that. i agree with stasher1, the TaC material fenwick uses is pretty good stuff, i had a walleye elite tech and a scheels walleye series rod that both had the material and it was very nice, even when wet. the less manufacturers use cork, the more available it will become and will likely make a comeback, as with most things, its cyclical Quote
Stasher1 Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 As I said earlier, I prefer cork but given the choice between poor quality cork with lots of filler and EVA, I think I'd have to take EVA. 2 Quote
BrASSmonkey Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 I think I am in the minority as someone who prefers the feel of a good firm EVA grip. I like that it doesn't show dirt. It also ends up saving me money with my personal builds lol. Quote
midnighthrasher Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 I prefer EVA over cork. I dont like cork at all. I sold all my crucials and baught all cumaras. Quote
LuckyHandsINC. Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 I also really like eva. The 5 combos I use most are 3 cumaras with patriarch XT for casting and 2 veritas with patriarch spinners. All foam grips and knobs. Next combo is gonna be a villain rod with an mgx also all Eva grips and knobs Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 I prefer cork, but with the scarcity of quality cork and the rising prices on what cork is available, I think it's just a matter of time until EVA (or something similar) replaces cork on all but the most expensive (or custom) rods. It seems as though it's already happened in the ~$100 rod market. FWIW, that foam/cork stuff that Fenwick uses looks pretty cool. Exactly. I said the same thing in the new Shimano reels thread. High quality cork rings that are 1/2" thick (when I can get them) cost about $2 ea. A 10" full cork handle uses $40 of materials plus glue plus time and labor to shape. Obviously a bigger buyer isn't paying as much but the principal is the same. There are some excellent EVA and Hypalon materials out there that look good, feel good and offer lots of design options. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 15, 2011 Super User Posted July 15, 2011 Burl cork, baby. Burl. 1 Quote
MarkM Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 Cork all the way for my bass rods and inshore saltwater. EVA or similar for larger/offshore-type saltwater rods. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted July 15, 2011 Super User Posted July 15, 2011 I like the foam grips. Honestly though it really doesn't matter to me. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 15, 2011 Super User Posted July 15, 2011 Probably have no problem with foam rod grips, using them on all off shore rods now, but hope reel grips don't go that way.......I like rubberish (ya know what I mean) power grips Quote
ChiCityBasser Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 I actually prefer the Eva/Foam grips with a few of my Cabelas XML having cork but I have started to replace the with the Prodigy model or other models with EVA handles. Quote
philsoreel Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 I was just about completely sold on high quality eva, but I bought a GLoomis and have grown to love the cork on it. It's a completely different feel than my previous, lesser quality cork. It's hard to explain, it just feels right. Quote
Super User CWB Posted July 15, 2011 Super User Posted July 15, 2011 I prefer cork but either would be fine as long as it's not split grip. Quote
Bass_Fanatic Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 To be honest...I cant even tell the difference when Im fishing, so I dont really care. As long as the rod fits my technique and is sensitive I could care less about the grip. Quote
breezy Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 I think full cork grips are practically dead already and cork period may be next. Understandable with the high cost vs current alternatives. Personally it all depends on the specific material. My preference is a full cork grip as long as the cork is high quality. I have a few rods with cork handles and covered in pits where the filler has fell out over time that I always think about replacing them with EVA. On the other hand I have a few rods (1 Dobyns Champion in particular) that have immaculate cork that I wouldn't trade for anything. I like the way it looks, the way it feels...and it doesn't get hot in the sun. I have an Abu Vengeance rod with EVA or some other synthetic grip that feels wonderful and has held up very well. But I did not like the material on the Veritas at all. It was extremely slipper when wet and after only a few months of use had a few spots where it's scratched, gouged out, etc. Not sure how it was even damaged but it was. The way things are going I can definitely see cork completely disappearing from most 'budget' rods. I wish manufacturers would give us more choices (EVA vs cork, split vs full, etc) but with the economy I'm sure that's not going to happen. I guess when cork disappears from most/all commercial rods it's time to go custom. Quote
trevor Posted July 16, 2011 Author Posted July 16, 2011 Here is my list of things I hate about EVA: 1. The look: in my opinion its very ugly. On the other hand a nice cork grip is beautiful, especially the custom grips with multiple kinds of cork. 2. In my experience with EVA, some grips tend to "rot", I'm not sure of the term. They shrink and feel like they've been dried out. 3. EVA seems to me to get pretty hot on hot days. 4. I HATE HATE HATE the feeling of my wet/slimy hands sliding on EVA. To me it's like nails on a chalkboard. Just this fact alone would be enough for me to buy custom rods if the switchover is ever made. Again, can't stress enough how much I hate the feeling when it slips through my wet hands. Ugh. Quote
tracker01 Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 No foam for me, grips or handle. Just do not like the stuff. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 16, 2011 Super User Posted July 16, 2011 I have two Carbonlite and a Browning spinning rods with the "foam" grips. At first they felt odd compared to the cork grips on all my other rods. But, I've come to prefer the more slender grip. When I pick up one of my cork grip rods, it feels like a club. It may be me, but I have better feel with the thinner grips. It's not unlike golf clubs, the thicker the grip, the more they take hands out of the equation. Some pros use grips on their putters that are two inches in diameter to prevent them from getting "wristy" with their hands. Grips can be used to help reduce slicing or hooking. A golfer will tend to slice with thicker grips, and hook the ball with thinner grips. Maybe the thinner grips allow for better transmission of feel to the hands. When all is said and done, grips, like just about everything else in fishing, it's user preference. Some like the esthetic qualities of particular rods and reels, but I buy them to fish with, not to admire. When fishing, I rarely look at them except when changing rods, or for possible damage, such as bent eyes. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 17, 2011 Super User Posted July 17, 2011 if you're gonna fish with eva buy an ugly stick and match the rest of the rod to it.cork rules. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted July 17, 2011 Super User Posted July 17, 2011 Ultra high grade cork like on the NRX and GLX is my preference. Though on other rods, the preference is EVA; I like that it doesn't get slick and grimy when wet or after a lot of use. I've had many instances where cork gets slick. Since using rods with other material for handles I haven't had that issue. Ultimately, burl cork on all my rods would be the preference. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted July 17, 2011 Super User Posted July 17, 2011 if you're gonna fish with eva buy an ugly stick and match the rest of the rod to it.cork rules. What a great open mind you have ! Quote
trevor Posted July 17, 2011 Author Posted July 17, 2011 if you're gonna fish with eva buy an ugly stick and match the rest of the rod to it.cork rules. Quote
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