morjam401 Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 amateur fishermen here trying to learn from my mistakes. i was fishing with a spinning rod with a broken tip so i think it's 5'5" now and using 10lb mono. i had a swivel snap tied on. i put a jackall giron on (3/4 oz) and cast. i heard a snap which sounded like my pole broke i looked and saw $20 flying in the air lol. the pole did not not break but lure and swivel were gone. was the lure too heavy for line or could it have been a nick in the line? i know it's time for a new rod/reel i've been making due with what i have so maybe that contributed? i'm getting into biggers lures. i have a buzzjet coming which i don't want to lose. So my other question is what are are some rules for lures 1oz and bigger. what lb test should i be using? when getting my new setup is spinning or baitcast better for heavy lures? if i could swim i would have gone after it lol. i fish from shore and tried to get it with a homemade retriever. basically 6 chains on a rope but it was too far. Quote
RiverFisher13 Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 Fishing baits of that size i would use atleast 17lb test with atleast a med-heavey pole. Quote
Super User deep Posted July 5, 2011 Super User Posted July 5, 2011 amateur fishermen here trying to learn from my mistakes. i was fishing with a spinning rod with a broken tip so i think it's 5'5" now and using 10lb mono. i had a swivel snap tied on. i put a jackall giron on (3/4 oz) and cast. i heard a snap which sounded like my pole broke i looked and saw $20 flying in the air lol. the pole did not not break but lure and swivel were gone. was the lure too heavy for line or could it have been a nick in the line? i know it's time for a new rod/reel i've been making due with what i have so maybe that contributed? i'm getting into biggers lures. i have a buzzjet coming which i don't want to lose. So my other question is what are are some rules for lures 1oz and bigger. what lb test should i be using? when getting my new setup is spinning or baitcast better for heavy lures? Yeah, you probably need heavier line. This is how I roll: <0.5 oz, spinning, 6/8 lb test 0.5 oz to 1 oz, baitcaster, 10/12 lb test (usual bass lures) 1.5 oz to 3 oz, baitcaster, 20 lb test (my little swimbaits) BTW, did you go swimming after that Giron? I know I'd have. EDIT: note that I use lighter line than most folks. You might want to go up one or two line sizes. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted July 5, 2011 Super User Posted July 5, 2011 10lb test line is way to light. Get yourself a 7' Medium Heavy rod and some 15lb test line or bigger. PS get yourself at least a 2500 reel or something that can hold the bigger test pound line...otherwise your line will be jumping off that spinning reel as well.I mention that,because smaller reels will not be able to handle heavier test line also. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 6, 2011 Super User Posted July 6, 2011 New rod and reel required. For this application I think braided line is probably the ticket. I'm fishing Fireline Braid and like it just fine. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted July 6, 2011 Super User Posted July 6, 2011 The bail could have tripped when casting, that makes a loud snap Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 if you can afford to throw $20 baits then you can afford atleast an ugly stik to replace the rod with the broken tip...bigger line might help too Quote
mr.mallard Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 New rod and reel required. For this application I think braided line is probably the ticket. I'm fishing Fireline Braid and like it just fine. 832 is the way to go.... Quote
Super User Sam Posted July 6, 2011 Super User Posted July 6, 2011 Suggestion: Look at the rod specifications on each rod and stay within the paramaters. The specs will give you the line test and bait size ranges. A nick or cut in a line can cause your bait to take off into the wild blue younder when you cast. This is probably what happened unless you threw the bait too hard and the knot failed. Or...the line was cut by the rod since you said you lost the tip. As for big baits, may I suggest mastering the Texas rigged finesse worm; shaky head; drop shot and wacky rigged plastics followed by spinnerbaits, crankbaits and Chatterbaits before throwing heavy baits? A pink or white trick worm is fun to throw on a weightless rig. Good luck and let us know how you do. Quote
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