Super User eyedabassman Posted June 10, 2009 Super User Posted June 10, 2009 Do you guys like the Scum Frog Popper better or Spro ,Horny Toad, ect. Quote
snuffy33 Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I've been using the Scum frog Popper for years and for me it still out fishes Spro ,Horny Toad, ect. Also you can buy 3 Scum Frogs for what one Spro costs. Quote
Super User Bassin_Fin@tic Posted June 10, 2009 Super User Posted June 10, 2009 Spro poppin frog eats it for breakfast. Quote
Furbit Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 The Scum Frog Popper is one heck of a fish producing frog. I have used it for many years and it has been my favorite for many many years, but I got to say I absolutely love the new Spro Popper. I won't be throwing out my Scum Frog Poppers anytime soon, I mean how could I with all the fish they have produced for me over the years, but they have officially taken a back seat to The Spro this season. Â Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted June 10, 2009 Super User Posted June 10, 2009 The scum frog popper rocks and I don't think the spro is any better, though both are good. I love fishing slop with both. The scumfrog sits lower in the water and has a more subtle action, while the spro walks the frog better and has a louder bloop. I say an angler needs both. Quote
bassin is addicting Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I've been using the Scum frog Popper for years and for me it still out fishes Spro ,Horny Toad, ect. Also you can buy 3 Scum Frogs for what one Spro costs. X2 Quote
bass wrangler569 Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Spro poppin frog eats it for breakfast. X2 I can understand you guys still using scum frogs because they're cheaper or for nostalgia's sake but seriously spro frogs (or even bobby's perfect or swamp donkey's) are lightyears ahead of scum frogs. The improvement in hook up ratio from scum frogs to spro bronzeye's is huge and they cast much better as well. Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted June 10, 2009 Author Super User Posted June 10, 2009 If I were to buy a Spro popper what color? or does color not matter? Scum Frog colors? Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted June 11, 2009 Super User Posted June 11, 2009 If I were to buy a Spro popper what color? or does color not matter?Scum Frog colors? Natural frog, black, and a hi vis like chartreuse. Those three colors should cover just about any water conditions. Quote
Furbit Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Spro poppin frog eats it for breakfast. X2 I can understand you guys still using scum frogs because they're cheaper or for nostalgia's sake but seriously spro frogs (or even bobby's perfect or swamp donkey's) are lightyears ahead of scum frogs. The improvement in hook up ratio from scum frogs to spro bronzeye's is huge and they cast much better as well. As I stated I do love the Spro Popper, but the reason to keep using Scum Frog poppers also is for me anyways, is that they flat out catch fish. They may be cheap, they may not have as good of hooks, they land upside down a lot of the time and they don't cast as well as the Spro, but they flat out catch fish. I am all for new and improved but kicking something that produces like the Scum Frog to the curb just does not make any sense. Like iceintheveins said, both. If I were to buy a Spro popper what color? or does color not matter?Scum Frog colors? For the Spro I have had good luck with Leopard, Midnight Black and rain Forest Black. Green Tree is also good at times. For Scum Frog Poppers of which I have been using for years there is only two colors you need, Solid Black and Natural black/Green. These two colors have produced for me from IL to MN to OK to Texas, to Cali. This is not to say the other colors won't work for they will, but with these two I feel I am covered. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 11, 2009 Super User Posted June 11, 2009 Scum Frogs Trophy Series have a MUCH better hookup ratio than Spros. Same goes for Snag Proof frogs. The issue can be resolved by bending the hooks ever so slightly and massaging the plastic body on the Spros. Another trick with the Spro is to trim one leg shorter than the other to aid in a walk the dog retrieve in open water. You can stuff the Scum Frogs with chunks of plastic worm for added weight. SF Bigfoot is another favorite of mine, especially in scattered pads. Same for Deps Basyrisky. I like the smaller 65 size for those. The real answer is, none is actually better than the other. They all work, and none are perfect. Quote
Super User CWB Posted June 11, 2009 Super User Posted June 11, 2009 Scum Frogs Trophy Series have a MUCH better hookup ratio than Spros. Same goes for Snag Proof frogs. The issue can be resolved by bending the hooks ever so slightly and massaging the plastic body on the Spros.You can stuff the Scum Frogs with chunks of plastic worm for added weight. SF Bigfoot is another favorite of mine, especially in scattered pads. The real answer is, none is actually better than the other. They all work, and none are perfect. X2 I've been using the Scumfrog Popper for years and have no problems hooking fish. I think the Spro's have a poorer hookup ratio than the Scumfrogs. Their bodies are too hard. They do cast well though. Trophy Scumfrog is great but in the thickest stuff like bullrushes and tules, it's a little too soft and tends to get hung. I Love Snagproofs Bobby's Perfect for the real thick stuff. Quote
FishDontLikeMe1301600221 Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 If I were to buy a Spro popper what color? or does color not matter?Scum Frog colors? 3 colors needed...get a natural looking one,a chart.one and best color ever for any frog imo is WHITE!!!!! Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted June 12, 2009 Author Super User Posted June 12, 2009 Hay guys, I have another question, the Scum popper I would think is very hard to cast, they are very lite on a baitcaster or do you fish them on spinning gear? I think the new Spro popper would be better to cast with. Quote
Furbit Posted June 12, 2009 Posted June 12, 2009 Hay guys, I have another question, the Scum popper I would think is very hard to cast, they are very lite on a baitcaster or do you fish them on spinning gear? I think the new Spro popper would be better to cast with. The Spro does cast much better but with a good rod and reel you can cast the Scum Frog NP. For the scum frog I use a 7ft mh baitcaster rod teamed with a Quantum Tour PT reel and 40lb braid and it cast just fine, not as far maybe but good enough. I have been throwing the Spro on a G-Loomis MBR 844c with the same make reel but with 65lb braid. If distance is your main concern then yes the Spro will cast a mile. If your looking for the most strikes in a day, then the Scum Frog popper has a track record of doing such. Not saying the Spro can't produce the numbers but it will be a long time before it equals the numbers of the scum frog. Â Quote
BassFishingMachine Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 I can't hook up with nothing using a spro, and the things start taking in water like no tomorrow, I really don't know how you guys use them things. The scumfrogs work great for me, alot softer so I can get a better hookset, and my hookup ratio is alot higher with them. Plus they don't take on water nearly as quickly as the spros I've used have. Never had any good results with spros... who knows. Quote
Mr Jenkins Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 bro scum frogs are awesome i use the rat myself, you can also cut a small slit in the belly of it and throw some bb's in it take a soldering gun and seal it backup. great for throwin it in brush. Â Â As far as color i like bubblegum Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted June 13, 2009 Author Super User Posted June 13, 2009 Spro poppin frog eats it for breakfast. X2 I can understand you guys still using scum frogs because they're cheaper or for nostalgia's sake but seriously spro frogs (or even bobby's perfect or swamp donkey's) are lightyears ahead of scum frogs. The improvement in hook up ratio from scum frogs to spro bronzeye's is huge and they cast much better as well. As I stated I do love the Spro Popper, but the reason to keep using Scum Frog poppers also is for me anyways, is that they flat out catch fish. They may be cheap, they may not have as good of hooks, they land upside down a lot of the time and they don't cast as well as the Spro, but they flat out catch fish. I am all for new and improved but kicking something that produces like the Scum Frog to the curb just does not make any sense. Like iceintheveins said, both. If I were to buy a Spro popper what color? or does color not matter?Scum Frog colors? For the Spro I have had good luck with Leopard, Midnight Black and rain Forest Black. Green Tree is also good at times. For Scum Frog Poppers of which I have been using for years there is only two colors you need, Solid Black and Natural black/Green. These two colors have produced for me from IL to MN to OK to Texas, to Cali. This is not to say the other colors won't work for they will, but with these two I feel I am covered. If I were to buy a Spro popper to try,what one color would you should I get? :-? Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted June 13, 2009 Super User Posted June 13, 2009 Spro poppin frog eats it for breakfast. X2 I can understand you guys still using scum frogs because they're cheaper or for nostalgia's sake but seriously spro frogs (or even bobby's perfect or swamp donkey's) are lightyears ahead of scum frogs. The improvement in hook up ratio from scum frogs to spro bronzeye's is huge and they cast much better as well. As I stated I do love the Spro Popper, but the reason to keep using Scum Frog poppers also is for me anyways, is that they flat out catch fish. They may be cheap, they may not have as good of hooks, they land upside down a lot of the time and they don't cast as well as the Spro, but they flat out catch fish. I am all for new and improved but kicking something that produces like the Scum Frog to the curb just does not make any sense. Like iceintheveins said, both. If I were to buy a Spro popper what color? or does color not matter?Scum Frog colors? For the Spro I have had good luck with Leopard, Midnight Black and rain Forest Black. Green Tree is also good at times. For Scum Frog Poppers of which I have been using for years there is only two colors you need, Solid Black and Natural black/Green. These two colors have produced for me from IL to MN to OK to Texas, to Cali. This is not to say the other colors won't work for they will, but with these two I feel I am covered. If I were to buy a Spro popper to try,what one color would you should I get? :-? Leopard frog. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted June 13, 2009 Super User Posted June 13, 2009 I find scumfrog poppers are soft with a good hookup ratio. Quote
Furbit Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 Spro poppin frog eats it for breakfast. X2 I can understand you guys still using scum frogs because they're cheaper or for nostalgia's sake but seriously spro frogs (or even bobby's perfect or swamp donkey's) are lightyears ahead of scum frogs. The improvement in hook up ratio from scum frogs to spro bronzeye's is huge and they cast much better as well. As I stated I do love the Spro Popper, but the reason to keep using Scum Frog poppers also is for me anyways, is that they flat out catch fish. They may be cheap, they may not have as good of hooks, they land upside down a lot of the time and they don't cast as well as the Spro, but they flat out catch fish. I am all for new and improved but kicking something that produces like the Scum Frog to the curb just does not make any sense. Like iceintheveins said, both. If I were to buy a Spro popper what color? or does color not matter?Scum Frog colors? For the Spro I have had good luck with Leopard, Midnight Black and rain Forest Black. Green Tree is also good at times. For Scum Frog Poppers of which I have been using for years there is only two colors you need, Solid Black and Natural black/Green. These two colors have produced for me from IL to MN to OK to Texas, to Cali. This is not to say the other colors won't work for they will, but with these two I feel I am covered. If I were to buy a Spro popper to try,what one color would you should I get? :-? Oh, sorry I miss read your post, but actually any one of those colors should work for you, but if I did had to pick just one I would have to go for the Leopard. If there out of stock on the Leopard, Rain Forest Black would be my next choice followed by Midnight Black and then Green Tree. As for comments on the Spro Popper taking on water, this has not been an issue for me yet as far as it being a real problem. Yes it will at times take on water just like any frog I have tried, but it still stays on top. I do love the Scum Frog also but I have had a few sinkers right out of the package. The Spro JR I have had the same thing from time to time, but so far no sinkers with the Popper and I really hope I did not just jinks myself. HEHE As far as hookups go, I don't know what to say for so far the Spro Popper has been solid in that department. The Regular Spro Frog and JR are not as good as the Popper in this department IMO. In fact twice now I had blows up on the Spro Popper in which I was not paying attention and the bass hooked themselves. Can't get no better then that IMO. Actually I really believe it has more to do with the rod,reel and line one uses then the frog. Since I switched over to good 7ft MH to Heavy action rods, a high speed reel and heavy braid, hookups have not been a problem like in the past. Sure I still miss a few, but I would call that angler error, now that I use the right equipment for the job, instead of frog hooks error. BTW, I hope I am not coming off as a Mr. Know all for I am not a Know All. But put a frog, jig or spinnerbait on the end of my line and I have total confidence in how I go about picking and using such for when I get into something I love to do like fishing these baits I become a student of the highest degree, meaning I have spent hours upon hours upon years trying to master these things simply because I enjoy and love to do such. Put a Swimbait on the end of my line and I am in trouble for I don't have the hours put in I feel is necessary to be really good at something. So please don't take what I say about frogs as being cocky or the law or anything like that. I am just trying to help from my own experiences over 20 some years of bass fishing and sometimes I don't know just how to put things without coming off the wrong way. Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted June 13, 2009 Author Super User Posted June 13, 2009 Spro poppin frog eats it for breakfast. X2 I can understand you guys still using scum frogs because they're cheaper or for nostalgia's sake but seriously spro frogs (or even bobby's perfect or swamp donkey's) are lightyears ahead of scum frogs. The improvement in hook up ratio from scum frogs to spro bronzeye's is huge and they cast much better as well. As I stated I do love the Spro Popper, but the reason to keep using Scum Frog poppers also is for me anyways, is that they flat out catch fish. They may be cheap, they may not have as good of hooks, they land upside down a lot of the time and they don't cast as well as the Spro, but they flat out catch fish. I am all for new and improved but kicking something that produces like the Scum Frog to the curb just does not make any sense. Like iceintheveins said, both. If I were to buy a Spro popper what color? or does color not matter?Scum Frog colors? For the Spro I have had good luck with Leopard, Midnight Black and rain Forest Black. Green Tree is also good at times. For Scum Frog Poppers of which I have been using for years there is only two colors you need, Solid Black and Natural black/Green. These two colors have produced for me from IL to MN to OK to Texas, to Cali. This is not to say the other colors won't work for they will, but with these two I feel I am covered. If I were to buy a Spro popper to try,what one color would you should I get? :-? Oh, sorry I miss read your post, but actually any one of those colors should work for you, but if I did had to pick just one I would have to go for the Leopard. If there out of stock on the Leopard, Rain Forest Black would be my next choice followed by Midnight Black and then Green Tree. As for comments on the Spro Popper taking on water, this has not been an issue for me yet as far as it being a real problem. Yes it will at times take on water just like any frog I have tried, but it still stays on top. I do love the Scum Frog also but I have had a few sinkers right out of the package. The Spro JR I have had the same thing from time to time, but so far no sinkers with the Popper and I really hope I did not just jinks myself. HEHE As far as hookups go, I don't know what to say for so far the Spro Popper has been solid in that department. The Regular Spro Frog and JR are not as good as the Popper in this department IMO. In fact twice now I had blows up on the Spro Popper in which I was not paying attention and the bass hooked themselves. Can't get no better then that IMO. Actually I really believe it has more to do with the rod,reel and line one uses then the frog. Since I switched over to good 7ft MH to Heavy action rods, a high speed reel and heavy braid, hookups have not been a problem like in the past. Sure I still miss a few, but I would call that angler error, now that I use the right equipment for the job, instead of frog hooks error. BTW, I hope I am not coming off as a Mr. Know all for I am not a Know All. But put a frog, jig or spinnerbait on the end of my line and I have total confidence in how I go about picking and using such for when I get into something I love to do like fishing these baits I become a student of the highest degree, meaning I have spent hours upon hours upon years trying to master these things simply because I enjoy and love to do such. Put a Swimbait on the end of my line and I am in trouble for I don't have the hours put in I feel is necessary to be really good at something. So please don't take what I say about frogs as being cocky or the law or anything like that. I am just trying to help from my own experiences over 20 some years of bass fishing and sometimes I don't know just how to put things without coming off the wrong way. Thanks for all the help! I have a tournament this Sun. so I wanted to try the frog bite. I was in a tournament last Sun. and a guy took second fishing the Scum popper. I did go and buy both the Scum popper and the Spo popper in Leopard. So if this doesn't work I am coming after YOU! Just kidding ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Thanks again I love topwater and I am pretty good at it so the frog poppers I should be ok with. I am useing a 7ft.6 in.Fenwick and a high speed Citca and 65 lb. braid Sufix. Quote
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Furbit Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 Thanks for all the help! I have a tournament this Sun. so I wanted to try the frog bite. I was in a tournament and a gut took second fishing the Scum popper. I did go and buy both the Scum popper and the Spo popper in Leopard. So if this doesn't work I am coming after YOU! Just kidding ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Thanks again I love topwater and I am pretty good at it so the frog poppers I should be ok with. I am useing a 7ft.6 in.Fenwick and a high speed Citca and 65 lb. braid Sufix. No Problem. Cast that Spro out and let it sit a few. Walk it a little in place and let it sit some more. Walk, Walk and pop and let it sit some more until you get the rhythm the bass wants for the day. I have had many days where it's when the frog sits after the Walk and pop, where the bass just hammer it while it sits. If there super active walking it at a slow pace all the way back to the boat may be the best bet. I have had a few times also where I casted out and just let it sit while I grab a drink of Dew or light up a smoke, bad idea because if there's any sure way to get a bass to strike it's to not be paying attention. LOL With the Scum Frog Popper, cast out and let it sit a bit. Give it a pop pop and let it sit. Pop pop sit until she strikes. The Scum frog will walk some to, but I have had better luck with the little pops. Also keep in mind that the Scum Frog Popper will without any doubt catch fish of all sizes. I have a lot of confidence in the Spro, but I have absolutely no doubt at all that if there's a fish there, she's going to hit the Scum frog popper. Â Tournament secrets sort of because I am sure a lot of peeps know this. Sea walls can be killer spots, work the frog as close as possible to the wall. The very shallow end of docks, cast that frog under there, skip it as close to shore and under the dock as possible and work the frog there. Stumps the same thing, keep it in the strike zone as long as possible but being it's a tourney you don't want to waste to much time in one spot unless of course the spot is hot. Then of course you got the weeds. One Spot some seem to overlook is where the weeds meet the shoreline. I see a lot of guys working the outer edge and pockets within and followed them and caught the fish they forgot to try to catch way up shallow, I am talking so shallow you would not think a bass would be there. One other tip I can think of off the top of my head is wind blow cover. here you can really walk and pop that frog hard followed by a pause. Seems the windier it is or the thicker the cover, putting a little more behind it does the trick. And whatever you do, don't set the hook right away, let them take it. I have won and placed a few times with nothing but the frog, but like anything else, the frog bite is either on or off. Of course I tend to not give them much choice and will force feed them if I have to by keeping in there face and juicing the heck out of it with MegaStrike. If that don't work then I will move onto something else. Luckily I guess, I have never been skunked in a tournament with a frog. I say I guess because they have fooled me into thinking the frog bite was on and by the time I figured out they was just playing with me it's to late. LOL The hardest thing IMO while tournament fishing is knowing when to change up, weather that's lures, location or whatever. But hey that's what makes fishing fun. Good Luck Sunday! Quote
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